EPTBah! I meant the original UT.
Console Gamers Get Killed against PC Gamers - Page 4
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Bibdy
United States3481 Posts
Bah! I meant the original UT. | ||
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kar1181
United Kingdom515 Posts
On July 24 2010 04:23 Hawk wrote: If you beat Wayne Gretzky in hockey one on one by using a hockey stick while he was using a 2x4 with a salmon tied to the bottom, would you be the better player?? No  He could kick the puck in circles around me. | ||
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Saturnize
United States2473 Posts
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ckw
United States1018 Posts
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ithree
443 Posts
How on earth do you tell that guy from a Aim Bot ?! On topic: ditto, the controls on PC are simply superior. The pure fact is you can't get a shooter on consoles without aim assistance, on pc you'd get your ass banned. | ||
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
On July 24 2010 07:11 Saturnize wrote: So then buying a game would also be wasting money? im talking about people who play a game to be competitive i don't know what you are talking about when you buy a game you own it when you go to an arcade and put 2 quarters in you play until you have to put quarters in again | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17845 Posts
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DarQraven
Netherlands553 Posts
On July 24 2010 07:28 Manit0u wrote: To tell a guy from an Aim Bot, you should first meet some people who are at least trying to be competetive in Q3, watch how they play once or twice over their shoulder and go nuts. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uymAmt4Muc :D Mad props for this guy even managing to get through the menu on a touchpad. Most players cannot do those defrag maps even if the game did the WASD part for you. Still, training a trickmap into muscle memory is quite a bit different than playing actual matches. The first involves building a routine, the latter one revolves around split second reactions. | ||
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Saturnize
United States2473 Posts
On July 24 2010 07:27 travis wrote: im talking about people who play a game to be competitive i don't know what you are talking about when you buy a game you own it when you go to an arcade and put 2 quarters in you play until you have to put quarters in again hmmm ok... that makes alot more sense. I thought you meant people who played on arcade machines to beat the game were wasting there money. But then again xbox live  | ||
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kainzero
United States5211 Posts
well you can't. just like you can't bring a women's basketball to a men's basketball game so it's easier to make your shots. and comparisons across consoles, games, genres? why not compare jai alai and lacrosse with golf and baseball? i feel like the only people who feel that they are "better gamers" are people who aren't that good at their own game and need something to brag about, like a street fighter player calling tekken a button masher. chances are, the street fighter player is mediocre and just wants to show off at something. if you're so good at q3 for pc, play q3 for pc instead of saying you'd kick ass on the DC if you had your pc controls. | ||
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Tabbris
Bangladesh2839 Posts
On July 24 2010 07:46 kainzero wrote: i'm tired of hearing that "if pc gamers could use a keyboard + mouse they would murder console gamers." well you can't. just like you can't bring a women's basketball to a men's basketball game so it's easier to make your shots. and comparisons across consoles, games, genres? why not compare jai alai and lacrosse with golf and baseball? i feel like the only people who feel that they are "better gamers" are people who aren't that good at their own game and need something to brag about, like a street fighter player calling tekken a button masher. chances are, the street fighter player is mediocre and just wants to show off at something. if you're so good at q3 for pc, play q3 for pc instead of saying you'd kick ass on the DC if you had your pc controls. We are very proud elitist snobs | ||
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DarQraven
Netherlands553 Posts
On July 24 2010 07:46 kainzero wrote: if you're so good at q3 for pc, play q3 for pc instead of saying you'd kick ass on the DC if you had your pc controls. Trust me, I do. Someone's missing the point. | ||
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geno
United States1404 Posts
The success of consoles over PCs despite inferior input devices would be most analogous to, say, Starcraft 64 becoming more popular than Starcraft. Sure, they both probably require different skills to play well, but I think it's pretty clear what the more rewarding experience is. That's not to say the difference between consoles and PCs at large is as clear cut, but the difference is certainly there. PC gamers may sound a bit elitist when pointing out the gap but it's understandable why they would want to emphasize just how good the PC experience is by comparison. | ||
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Mykill
Canada3402 Posts
Remember starcraft for N64? Also needing two joysticks to control your shot instead the sweep of the mouse gives PC games a good edge in FPS shooting. | ||
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Spyfire242
United States715 Posts
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Bibdy
United States3481 Posts
On July 24 2010 08:08 Mykill wrote: RTS is almost impossible on consoles to be any good. its difficult to get the whole game going. your APM is like 10 because of the scrolling selecting and stuffs Remember starcraft for N64? Also needing two joysticks to control your shot instead the sweep of the mouse gives PC games a good edge in FPS shooting. Yeah, that certainly hasn't stopped a lot developers from trying, and failing horribly, to bring some kind of RTS experience (usually combined with an FPS or 3PS) to consoles. It doesn't even have to be as awesomely balanced and intricate as Starcraft, it just has to have good gameplay and intuitive controls to sell well on consoles, but not a single one has even come close. The control systems are just a giant clusterfuck and you spend more time sitting there struggling with the controller to do what it is you want to do than witnessing the result and forming strategies. Anyone played the Overlord games, or Brutal Legend on a console? Good fucking god...they're simple as hell AND their controls suck. You just don't get any more disasterous than that from a strategy standpoint. | ||
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johnnyspazz
Taiwan1470 Posts
On July 24 2010 07:09 DarQraven wrote: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3520996425810543110# http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBc3-1Gbbo4 do they play without crosshairs or is that just the result of capturing the fppov? | ||
Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On July 24 2010 04:45 TLOBrian wrote: So...anyone know where I can get a keyboard+Mouse setup for an xbox 360? : P But seriously. Its like someone going into a fight with a chainsaw while the other guy uses his bare fists. Why don't people think that console gamers that have had time with the PC would do just as well? I used to play counterstrike for a really long time, but I got bored of it. I didn't have an extremely expensive computer so I guess thats why I was never able to play competitively, you need 60 frames to really compete. And since I didn't have 1500 bucks to buy a great gaming computer...I bought a 360 instead. : D What on earth are you talking about? Basically any point past 1.3, you could build a decent CS computer for relatively cheap, especially considering smokes were banned until 1.6. I played with several people who had shit computers and 30~ fps in smokes on certain maps. | ||
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Obscure
United States272 Posts
On July 24 2010 08:25 johnnyspazz wrote: do they play without crosshairs or is that just the result of capturing the fppov? They simply turn the HUD and crosshair off for the video. On the topic of CPMA and what you will never see console gamers doing, my personal favorite | ||
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DarQraven
Netherlands553 Posts
On July 24 2010 08:25 johnnyspazz wrote: do they play without crosshairs or is that just the result of capturing the fppov? With crosshairs, most definitely. And how! This vaguely resembles my setup, except I've also got the game timer set to a huge transparent font (like, 50% of the vertical screen huge) and colourcoded health and armor counters. And my enemyskins are disgustingly pink and green. Many people use a tricked-out and simplified custom HUD for playing and a full-settings recording mode for well...recording. Since many Q3 players have their settings turned all the way down, blurred textures, brightskins enabled, often even shadows disabled, most videos wouldn't look like much if they didn't have some sort of video settings profile. This is pretty typical. | ||
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