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NIJ
Profile Joined March 2010
1012 Posts
January 25 2011 22:56 GMT
#301
Best analogy of pc fps vs console fps is basball vs softball. Its not exactly apples and oranges, its comparable. And yes there is clearly the better way of doing things (baseball way of pitching, which can be upto double the speed. And yes kb+m is undisputably better.). Yet someone who can throw a 100mph fastball isn't gonna be guranteed to excel when playing softball.

It makes no sense to have baseball players play with softball players while adhering to their rules. It would be murder. Same goes with kbm vs pads. Sadly that's the reason why most consoles fps don't support it even though they have the hardware capabilities.
Act of thinking logically cannot possibly be natural to the human mind. If it were, then mathematics would be everybody's easiest course at school and our species would not have taken several millennia to figure out the scientific method -NDT
TxDraGuN
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8 Posts
January 25 2011 23:12 GMT
#302
Sad It'd be nice to play against PC gamers on my XBOX, and even greater idea that will never happened would be PS3 vs XBOX.
aike
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1629 Posts
January 25 2011 23:17 GMT
#303
On January 26 2011 07:56 NIJ wrote:
Best analogy of pc fps vs console fps is basball vs softball. Its not exactly apples and oranges, its comparable. And yes there is clearly the better way of doing things (baseball way of pitching, which can be upto double the speed. And yes kb+m is undisputably better.). Yet someone who can throw a 100mph fastball isn't gonna be guranteed to excel when playing softball.

It makes no sense to have baseball players play with softball players while adhering to their rules. It would be murder. Same goes with kbm vs pads. Sadly that's the reason why most consoles fps don't support it even though they have the hardware capabilities.


Would you then say that they are... in the same ballpark?!?! ;D
Wahaha
gulati
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2241 Posts
January 25 2011 23:20 GMT
#304
On January 26 2011 08:12 TxDraGuN wrote:
Sad It'd be nice to play against PC gamers on my XBOX, and even greater idea that will never happened would be PS3 vs XBOX.


If that ever happened (it can not and will not), the world of Console gaming would be perfected <33
C r u m b l i n g
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
January 26 2011 01:40 GMT
#305
On January 26 2011 06:28 VeNoM HaZ Skill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2011 06:13 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On January 26 2011 06:10 VeNoM HaZ Skill wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On January 26 2011 06:02 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
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On January 26 2011 05:50 VeNoM HaZ Skill wrote:
As far as I'm concerned this whole argument is PC elitists vs. anyone else who thinks different. And given the "I have an IQ of 200, so I'm NEVER Wrong!!!" Outlook of a PC gamer (not trolling, you know there is truth there), this will never get anywhere.

As far as sports comparisons go, its like dropping the best player in a Peewee hockey league in a rink with Ovechkin or Crosby. Of course he's going to get smashed because he in a completely different group. That is exactly why there are different leagues, so they can both play the sport they love with people their age. As long as everyone's having a good time, who cares? So why would you drop this topic onto a PC gaming site? Just to cause angry arguments?


there's console elitists just as there are PC elitists, you shouldn't try to act like one side is the victim and one side is the villain in this "argument"


Look at the banner on the site, now back at this post, now back at the banner. The banner will never change from StarCraft to Halo, but if you do enough hard drugs and hallucinogens, it may look like it says Halo. Look at what you're typing on, now look back at this post - You're on TL, a site devoted to a PC game. Now you see my point.


no I don't see your point, it would help if you didn't make it 100% fluff and completely ignore the mode I made to your original post

the fact that this is a PC gaming site is entirely irrelevant to the claim that in the PC vs console argument, PC gamers are always the elitists and console gamers are just regular people, which is just absurd and biased

old spice commercial is amazing, but using it as your argument form doesn't qualify as justification for the argument itself being valid or not


At no point did I say that console elitists don't exist,they do, but not really on this site. Its like a rousing game of find the whites in China. Besides I was talking about a thread on this site, not general population. So the fact the it is a PC site becomes all the more relevant. I said the argument was stupid. You started arguing about that. Calm down.


if that's all your saying then you should be more careful what you say unless you like people disagreeing with you for being wrong

"As far as I'm concerned this whole argument is PC elitists vs. anyone else who thinks different."
is very different than what you said, and I don't think I've done anything to indicate I'm not calm, perhaps you're the one who needs to relax
dr.mayco
Profile Joined August 2010
United States23 Posts
January 26 2011 02:21 GMT
#306
Finally we have the answer to a question that doesn't matter at all!
CPTslut
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany98 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-27 15:05:20
January 27 2011 15:03 GMT
#307
I like playing on a console, since it's sometimes much more enjoyable through it's casualty.
But I, as someone who has played CS and Q3 cpm on a very high level would never ever come even close to the idea of playing those 2 games with a pad, that would be absolutely ridiculous.
Only shooter where it actually works pretty well is Gears of War, but that's and exception and can be traced to GoW being very console optimized because of it's movement limitations through the cover-system (which is awesome btw.) and it's pretty slow pace in general.
Still the hardware-skillcap for shooter games will always exist on a console and I really can't enjoy those games because of the given reasons.
Sm3agol
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2055 Posts
January 27 2011 15:32 GMT
#308
Whenever I see a PC vs console argument. I win with a single word. "Quake". Game over.
dybydx
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada1764 Posts
January 27 2011 17:40 GMT
#309
i think they should had sold a keyboard and mouse package for the XBOX so those "disadvantaged" console controller players can switch over to a keyboard environment and still compete on equal footing, unless, their skill levels are simply too bad to be salvaged.
...from the land of imba
Offhand
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1869 Posts
January 27 2011 18:03 GMT
#310
On January 28 2011 02:40 dybydx wrote:
i think they should had sold a keyboard and mouse package for the XBOX so those "disadvantaged" console controller players can switch over to a keyboard environment and still compete on equal footing, unless, their skill levels are simply too bad to be salvaged.


Controls being the primary reason some game genres are terrible for consoles, you would think console developers would be all over an idea like that. Third parties have done so before but not with the support of any console company.

It's funny that consoles are increasingly realizing they can mimic most of the functionality of a computer (online play, online markets, hddvd/blu ray capability, etc). Consoles are effectively pre-built pcs, the main difference being that they run on an OS that significantly... limits what you're allowed to do. The reasons to keep consoles limited in functionality are pretty greedy (total control over your gaming experience, illusion that piracy is harder, etc). All of the consoles are basically the same at this point. You only need one of the two better systems to play all of the relevant interesting games anyway.
darmousseh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3437 Posts
January 27 2011 18:08 GMT
#311
I just played a mass effect 2 demo on the pc last night to compare it to xbox and here is my perspective.

Shooting at targets is sooo much easier on the pc since it's easy to be accurate, but the overall experience of the game was different. The pc keyboard combo doesn't give me the same experience as playing with a controller. It could be from the fact that I'm just used to it, but movement feels so...plain. With the controller you move differently.

Now I have played KOTOR on the computer and on the PC and I definitely enjoyed that on the PC more, but I wasn't physically targeting with my mouse.

Idk, both are good for different things. I'm sure there are games where fps on the pc is better and vice versa.
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