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Half
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2554 Posts
July 19 2010 01:56 GMT
#281
On July 19 2010 10:41 Kurr wrote:
So no, I'm not OK with torture. But I am OK with the current prison system. Like I said earlier, prison should not be enjoyable. And even if we tried to make it so, the people inside would still be a bunch of paranoid maniacs ready to stab you for no real reason.


What exactly is the difference between torturing a prisoner physically and torturing/potentially killing a person by putting them in this kind of environment other then this?


Most of the bad things described in the OP were not due to the COs, but by the convicts themselves.

Too Busy to Troll!
Kurr
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2338 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-19 02:15:31
July 19 2010 02:01 GMT
#282
On July 19 2010 10:56 Half wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2010 10:41 Kurr wrote:
So no, I'm not OK with torture. But I am OK with the current prison system. Like I said earlier, prison should not be enjoyable. And even if we tried to make it so, the people inside would still be a bunch of paranoid maniacs ready to stab you for no real reason.


What exactly is the difference between torturing a prisoner physically and torturing/potentially killing a person by putting them in this kind of environment other then this?

Show nested quote +

Most of the bad things described in the OP were not due to the COs, but by the convicts themselves.



You quoted the answer yourself... What exactly do you suggest? How exactly do you want to change the mindset of the convicts themselves? That is entirely THEIR OWN FAULT. It would cost too much money to remake the prison system and it might not even acheive any desired results if the convicts themselves refuse to change their ways.

Honestly I'm not sure why you're arguing with me. Are you trying to argue that murderers should have a fun time in prison? Fuck them, honestly.



When was I arguing with you?

Just assumed you were I guess.

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Half
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2554 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-19 02:20:22
July 19 2010 02:13 GMT
#283
On July 19 2010 11:01 Kurr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2010 10:56 Half wrote:
On July 19 2010 10:41 Kurr wrote:
So no, I'm not OK with torture. But I am OK with the current prison system. Like I said earlier, prison should not be enjoyable. And even if we tried to make it so, the people inside would still be a bunch of paranoid maniacs ready to stab you for no real reason.


What exactly is the difference between torturing a prisoner physically and torturing/potentially killing a person by putting them in this kind of environment other then this?


Most of the bad things described in the OP were not due to the COs, but by the convicts themselves.



You quoted the answer yourself... What exactly do you suggest? How exactly do you want to change the mindset of the convicts themselves? That is entirely THEIR OWN FAULT. It would cost too much money to remake the prison system and it might not even acheive any desired results if the convicts themselves refuse to change their ways.

Honestly I'm not sure why you're arguing with me. Are you trying to argue that murderers should have a fun time in prison? Fuck them, honestly.


When was I arguing with you? (besides in this post )

It would cost too much money to remake the prison system and it might not even acheive any desired results if the convicts themselves refuse to change their ways.


This is just patently untrue. Theirs a middle ground between giving them little hotel rooms and wiis and what else the fuck not and letting them "rot" in their own filth. Sure its still going to be a shithole, but small services go a long way in prison.


Just assumed you were I guess.


Not really. I'm hardly on board the whole "Lets give Wiis to criminals" thing, but theirs a difference between poor management and luxury treatment.
Too Busy to Troll!
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
July 19 2010 04:20 GMT
#284
wow, i learned some interesting stuff about prison from this, but nothing too surprising.
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b_unnies
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
3579 Posts
July 19 2010 08:31 GMT
#285
very interesting read
lone_hydra
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada1460 Posts
July 19 2010 18:51 GMT
#286
2 things I learned: You actually can't get a job with an arts degree.

Stay the fuck away from a prison.
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s.a.y
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Croatia3840 Posts
July 19 2010 22:26 GMT
#287
What a waste a life. A rich kid with a degree does all of that shit and doesn't even regret it.

Besides that, good read.
I am not good with quotes
Randomaccount#77123
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States5003 Posts
July 20 2010 00:41 GMT
#288
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matjlav
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany2435 Posts
July 20 2010 01:02 GMT
#289
Really really interesting thread. The solitary confinement part was especially disturbing.
ludnut1
Profile Joined July 2010
8 Posts
July 20 2010 01:26 GMT
#290
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LarJarsE
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1378 Posts
July 20 2010 02:06 GMT
#291
Just read the entire post.

Thanks for organizing it like that. That is a really great insight of one man's prison experience. I wish I had more to say, but I'm dumbfounded. Trying to soak it all in..
since 98'
Jollyburner
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada190 Posts
July 20 2010 02:51 GMT
#292
hopefully some people who were going to end up in prison will read this and think twice before fkin up.
sc2 imba aoe im pro now :D
LOcDowN
Profile Joined February 2003
United States1015 Posts
July 20 2010 03:50 GMT
#293
On July 19 2010 09:28 CaucasianAsian wrote:
My roommate just got out of prison for 4 years 4 months ago, and his stories are much more interesting.


What is the point of this post?
nitram
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada5412 Posts
July 20 2010 04:03 GMT
#294
On July 20 2010 12:50 LOcDowN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2010 09:28 CaucasianAsian wrote:
My roommate just got out of prison for 4 years 4 months ago, and his stories are much more interesting.


What is the point of this post?

Agreed. Why the hell would you tell us his stories are much more interesting and not share any stories?
These sites might be of more use than a StarCraft site, where the majority of posters look on WCIII as the dense misformed fetus produced during Blizzards latest miscarrige.
Archaic
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States4024 Posts
July 20 2010 04:06 GMT
#295
Holy crap... I read about half of it... Jaw dropping. I don't want to go to prison, scary stuff right there...
MangoTango
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States3670 Posts
July 20 2010 04:47 GMT
#296
Wow. Consider my understandinig of prison shaken.
"One fish, two fish, red fish, BLUE TANK!" - Artosis
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
July 20 2010 05:03 GMT
#297
This was an incredible read. Wow.
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Jollyburner
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada190 Posts
July 20 2010 05:27 GMT
#298
how is everyone debating whether ppl should be chucked into this environment?

its disgraceful. *some* of the people in prison deserve the horrible conditions they are in. but seriously, if you didnt harm anyone while committing your offense, you shouldnt be thrown into a degenerate shithole. the idea of prison itself is that it could rehabilitate the offender and they can rejoin society as a positive and useful member and pay taxes, etc, have a normal life. otherwise we should just be executing everyone who breaks the law and saving billions of $$$ used on prisons for schools and medical.

the reason this guy posted this in the first place was to draw attention to a situation that he felt many people were unaware of, and that he also felt was not acceptable practice within his country. i believe both are valid, and that nearly every citizen of the US is basically unaware of exactly what conditions their fellow americans are being subjected to within their justice system.

imo murderers and rapists have no rights, but for everyone else, ie drug offenses, non-violent crime, weapons offenses not involving attempted murder, assault, etc, you shouldnt have to exist in an environment where you fear for your life.

prison is already privatized for profit. part of the responsibilities of those corporations administering the program should be to ensure the safety of all prisoners, including the violent offenders and sexual predators who dont really deserve it. otherwise joe whitecollar criminal, or freddy the weed dealer, or some 18 year old kid selling crack for a street gang to feed his family are gona end up taking way more punishment than they deserved for the wrongs they committed.

obv you cant keep everyone safe all the time, and people will always get murdered in prison, there will always be drugs in prison, etc, but a much better job could be done than what is currently the standard in most, if not all, major max security prisons on US soil. this guy isnt describing an isolated situation here, his prison is probably on the mean as far as supermax level 5s go. if not better than most.

so for everyone saying they all deserve it, just think how easily u could get set up, or make a mistake while drunk/high, and end up in there. think about how stupid you were when you were 18. think about temptation and risk, and how easily the lines of right and wrong can become blurred. there are plenty of very nice people involved in illegal activities of some sort or another, and they dont deserve the treatment they get from the US federal justice system.
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nEAnS
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada161 Posts
July 20 2010 06:13 GMT
#299
I was trying to find a source on this so I googled it. I've seen other people post on other forums that this story is a troll
dimfish
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States663 Posts
July 20 2010 06:28 GMT
#300
On July 20 2010 15:13 nEAnS wrote:
I was trying to find a source on this so I googled it. I've seen other people post on other forums that this story is a troll


I tried to find the source post and also didn't find it. That OP is mesmorizing, though--I almost can't believe someone could pull it out of thin air
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