EPT2 Years In Prison - A Man's Story - Page 14
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Wippen
Sweden15 Posts
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Saturnize
United States2473 Posts
On July 18 2010 23:16 Biochemist wrote: I doubt that all prisons are run like this. Most are probably far worse. (atleast in america) | ||
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Ghostcom
Denmark4782 Posts
On July 19 2010 03:56 Saturnize wrote: Most are probably far worse. (atleast in america) Most are probably better seeing as this was a L5 prison, where the worst of the worst is sent. | ||
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Zerilous
United States22 Posts
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Toads
Canada1795 Posts
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0mgVitaminE
United States1278 Posts
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Mohdoo
United States15723 Posts
On July 19 2010 05:09 Zerilous wrote: Wow, Read most of. And to think, in my head I thought jail conditions were improving, but it seems that haven't really changed at all, and probably never will... Yeah, I mean...When are we going to ever have so much extra money that we are willing to improve the living situations for people who consciously decide to make our society a worse place? Until unemployment is like 0, I don't think it'll ever happen. | ||
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n.DieJokes
United States3443 Posts
On July 19 2010 03:56 Saturnize wrote: Most are probably far worse. (atleast in america) Based on what exactly? I doubt their are many prisons worse than this | ||
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Bereft
United States1007 Posts
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Half
United States2554 Posts
On July 18 2010 08:55 Ghostcom wrote: I happen to work on an open psychiatric ward and have actually met people for whom being robbed with a gun has happend. They have trouble leaving their homes, they can't keep up their job and they have to take medications just to get some sleep which is still a terrible sleep. And the worst part about it is that they couldn't in any way have avoided the situation. If you think he got off lightly you should visit a psychiatric hospital sometime... He got off light... Theirs a difference between "empathy" and "feeling sorry for". I do not feel sorry for this man, he committed a crime and was sent to prison. I am capable for showing empathy for him. On the other hand the prison accomplishes its goal of making these people capable of living in society without harming others anymore Did you not fucking read the OP? And anyone who would buy a book from such a guy should honestly be ashamed of themselves. If he got rich off writing such a book, he basicly got rewarded for his crime... No he would have been rewarded for writing a good book? Seriously have you ever attempted to write a 300+ page book? Its hard even if you know exactly what you're going to write about. It requires constant and self-imposed discipline. Getting anything published is a nightmare. If he wrote a book and got money off of it, he would deserve it on the efforts of writing it alone. Unless you're saying this person no longer deserves any degree of success for his past actions. I'd like to imagine that if I was a warden I'd be able to run my prison like a military prison, and not like this crap. Perhaps they have less control though, with laws governing how much they can punish prisoners (e.g. <1 week in solitary at a time). The difference is with the people, not how they're run. Seriously, how many people in military prisons would attempt to stab people even if they were allowed to have a knife? For those of you who are saying that Prison should be solely aimed at keeping "bad guys" away from us, and not to rehabilitate. Just to put a different perspective into this, the United States prison system is/was an attempt at rehabilitation. The biggest contrast to America's policy of (shitty) Rehabilitation in the developed world is China's prison system, among the only developed nation that pursues a different prison policy. Specifically, prevention, keeping "bad guys" from being "bad" again. Their, people are given death penalties for crimes such as drug dealing and smuggling, as well as murder, fraud, grand larceny, armed robbery, serious assault, and attempted murder. Its system is solely aimed at removing undesirable members of society from society. Among those crimes, "Smuggling", "Grand Larceny" and "Fraud" are commutable to a life sentence with no chance for parole. Personally, I don't think we should strive to emulate china. Well that isn't strictly true. China displays a "rehabilitation" policy for certain crimes. specifically, thought crimes against the state -_-. | ||
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JiYan
United States3668 Posts
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Half
United States2554 Posts
Would you buy a book from Osama Bin Laden "The 2 towers and how I did it"? Only if it was well written and not ghost written. I'd love some insight on the inner workings of a terrorist leader. Buying it would only make him profit more from the atrocity... Buying it would only give a bad man profit for writing a (good?) book. | ||
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bleh
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Win.win
United States230 Posts
He was on his side, right in front of my cell, and every jolt from the taser made the big hole in his stomach smoke. i'm tempted to call bs. would that really happen? | ||
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bleh
85 Posts
On July 19 2010 01:16 Kurr wrote: I'm not sure why people are finding this so interesting and informative. Maybe it's just me but the only thing that slightly surprised me was the killing he described, which was more brutal than I would've imagined otherwise. Honestly, all I see is a guy that committed armed robbery and instead of repenting in prison, did drugs and had "no homo" sex. He doesn't sound like someone that regrets what he did at all. Call me crazy but I don't mind seeing people like him rot in prison. Prison should not be a joy ride after all. It's a punishement where you get thrown in with other psychos. I agree with the part about none of it being very surprising at all other than the murder description. As far as seeing him rot in prison, yeah he should be punished for his crime obviously, but the environment being described is pretty inhumane and I don't know if attempted stealing of money warrants such brutal punishment. I've been robbed at gunpoint and I wouldn't wish this on whoever did it, he should be punished, but watching people getting murdered and getting raped aren't really fitting punishment IMO. As far as why people find it interesting - Prison is one of those things with a veil of mystery around it for the average person. No one really knows what any given jail is like without spending time observing them, which no one other than criminals and the people who work there get to do. The author is clearly pretty intelligent whatever anyone thinks of his choices, so it's especially interesting to get this information from the point of view of a well spoken ex-con. | ||
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Grend
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Half
United States2554 Posts
Call me crazy but I don't mind seeing people like him rot in prison. Prison should not be a joy ride after all. It's a punishement where you get thrown in with other psychos. I'm curious would you be ok with torturing prisoners? So they're "punished"? | ||
CaucasianAsian
Korea (South)11584 Posts
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nam nam
Sweden4672 Posts
On July 19 2010 09:28 CaucasianAsian wrote: My roommate just got out of prison for 4 years 4 months ago, and his stories are much more interesting. Are we holding a freaking competition now? | ||
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Kurr
Canada2338 Posts
On July 19 2010 09:10 Half wrote: I'm curious would you be ok with torturing prisoners? So they're "punished"? I don't recall mentionning torture at any point in my post. The crappy life in prison is due to the prisoners themselves honestly. If they all decided to work together to make their stay more pleasant, they could. Instead they choose to stab and rape each other while taking drugs and smuggling a bunch of stuff inside. No prison in the world can change that state of mind (at least, in high security prisons). They make their own misery and quite frankly, if they're there in the first place, there's a good chance that they deserve it 100%. I'm not a nice person. Don't get me wrong, I'm nice to people around me and all that. But I don't like drug dealers, robbers and murderers, etc and I don't feel much empathy for those type of people. There are plenty of ways to make a nice living even with a low salary job with little or no education. People resorting to breaking the law to make a living (or even worse, just because they can) know that what they are doing is wrong and they deserve their punishment (no, not torture; just living in prison is enough). So no, I'm not OK with torture. But I am OK with the current prison system. Like I said earlier, prison should not be enjoyable. And even if we tried to make it so, the people inside would still be a bunch of paranoid maniacs ready to stab you for no real reason. Most of the bad things described in the OP were not due to the COs, but by the convicts themselves. | ||
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