EPT2 Years In Prison - A Man's Story - Page 12
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SageFantasma
United States383 Posts
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TriniMasta
United States1323 Posts
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mmp
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EdaPoe
Netherlands82 Posts
On July 18 2010 15:50 orgolove wrote: Why would they delete the thread? :/ Forum moved from what I can tell. | ||
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SilverLeagueElite
United States626 Posts
On July 18 2010 15:14 Hynda wrote: The reason why the guy is getting sympathy is because he seems to genuinely upset of what he did, not just because he got sent to prison. Not once did I get the impression that he felt upset about the original crime. No mention of his victims' mental state, no hint of regret about the actual armed robbery. It's all about him. A question was posed,"Or if you had the chance, you would roll everything back and be the man before the crime?". Which basically asks,"Do you regret doing it?". No response is given. | ||
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oo_xerox
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johanes
Czech Republic2229 Posts
On July 18 2010 18:53 SilverLeagueElite wrote: Not once did I get the impression that he felt upset about the original crime. No mention of his victims' mental state, no hint of regret about the actual armed robbery. It's all about him. A question was posed,"Or if you had the chance, you would roll everything back and be the man before the crime?". Which basically asks,"Do you regret doing it?". No response is given. Yeah, interesting reading, well written, but for people who are feeling sympathy for him: He is a junkie who commited armed robbery. I find hypocritical when he writes abouth death in prison and how "touched" he was by it. Had something happened during the robbery, he would be the killer. The prison isn't supposed to be summer camp, it's bad there, but people who are in there deserve this. So interesting reading, but no sympathy from me. | ||
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backtoback
Canada1276 Posts
On July 18 2010 19:29 johanes wrote: Yeah, interesting reading, well written, but for people who are feeling sympathy for him: He is a junkie who commited armed robbery. I find hypocritical when he writes abouth death in prison and how "touched" he was by it. Had something happened during the robbery, he would be the killer. The prison isn't supposed to be summer camp, it's bad there, but people who are in there deserve this. So interesting reading, but no sympathy from me. guys... no one is asking for sympathy!!! he is just explaining how jail is cruel and why you should never do bad things just to avoid it. | ||
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ShadeR
Australia7535 Posts
I did enjoy reading what he wrote though as i feel it's enlighted me and i'm sure others of the reality of maximum sec prisons. not hollywood. | ||
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snotboogie
Australia3550 Posts
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bobhund
Sweden364 Posts
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oo_xerox
United States852 Posts
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HeavOnEarth
United States7087 Posts
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HeavOnEarth
United States7087 Posts
My reason for that comment followed STRAIGHT after - it was the he got rewarded for his crime. You disagreeing with that is fine, but your parallel sucks as it isn't a parallel in any way imagineable. Sure he needs to have the basic skills to write about his experience, but he wouldn't have been able to write the book had he not commited the crime in the first place. Im not disagreeing with you in the slightest, im just saying you have inconsistent logic that you should consider fixing. This is actually meant in a pretty constructive way, The whole, "him selling a book= reward for his crime", is flawed. Not is it my flawed logic or yours, yo can debate that, but im pretty sure its not mine. Btw its re incarceration Not "Reincarnation" Reincarnation is when you die and your soul comes back in another body Meh. Pretty obvious typo. if you want to say that it debunks my entire argument because of a typo, then just say it. otherwise i dont see the point of addressing it | ||
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Ghostcom
Denmark4782 Posts
On July 18 2010 21:11 HeavOnEarth wrote: Im not disagreeing with you in the slightest, im just saying you have backwards logic that you should consider fixing. This is actually meant in a pretty constructive way, if you really think that him selling a book= reward for his crime, you probably have other logic deficiencies with yourself. I'm honestly confused right now - what exactly did you do then? Let me make a parallel of my own to throw a light on what I meant: Would you buy a book from Osama Bin Laden "The 2 towers and how I did it"? Buying it would only make him profit more from the atrocity... The consumer has (imo) moral obligations and how everyone deals with that is up to themselves... | ||
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HeavOnEarth
United States7087 Posts
as for Would you buy a book from Osama Bin Laden "The 2 towers and how I did it"? Is the man selling a book about his stick up job? It's about his experience in prison. | ||
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Ghostcom
Denmark4782 Posts
On July 18 2010 21:28 HeavOnEarth wrote: edited my post above. sounded a bit harsh unintentionally. as for Is the man selling a book about his stick up job? It's about his experience in prison. So would you buy a book from Osama on how to live in caves? Your logic isn't any better than mine... | ||
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HeavOnEarth
United States7087 Posts
On July 18 2010 21:32 Ghostcom wrote: So would you buy a book from Osama on how to live in caves? Your logic isn't any better than mine... I never said i would buy a book from this guy, nor buy a book from osama , Your assumed point was- Would i be ashamed to buy a book about osama about living in caves? No, Not really. Eh, could you just reply in a PM? The whole reason i didnt like your post in the first place, and bothered replying is because it derailed a pretty decent thread, and pretty much said "fuck you" to the OP | ||
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ShadeR
Australia7535 Posts
On July 18 2010 21:26 Ghostcom wrote: I'm honestly confused right now - what exactly did you do then? Let me make a parallel of my own to throw a light on what I meant: Would you buy a book from Osama Bin Laden "The 2 towers and how I did it"? Buying it would only make him profit more from the atrocity... The consumer has (imo) moral obligations and how everyone deals with that is up to themselves... False analogy. | ||
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Ghostcom
Denmark4782 Posts
On July 18 2010 21:35 HeavOnEarth wrote: I never said i would buy a book from this guy, nor buy a book from osama , Your assumed point was- Would i be ashamed to buy a book about osama about living in caves? No, Not really. I honestly give up. You aren't makeing any sense at all. You respond to me writing that anyone who buys such a book should be ashamed of themselves since they make him profit from his crime. And now you say you wouldn't buy such a book. Fine, what exactly is it that you are trying to discuss? The ethical part of it? He wouldn't have had this experience had he not been to a top-security prison - which he only ended up in because he commited the crime. If anything what you disagree with me is about how far back the chain goes which is fine, but you haven't provided any solid arguments as to why you are right (other than that he needs to posses a basic skill - which he doesn't really need in the first place as he could just hire a ghostwriter). And the most golden part of all your posts was probably where you generalised ALL prison guards to be either 1) lazy or 2) corrupt and that they were in fact the cause of the reported atrocities, when 7 of the points are due to the other FUBAR prisoners and not them. Perhaps you should look at your own logic inconsistency before trying to tell others to do the same? This is of course meant very constructive... EDIT: an by give up I mean that this was my last post because this isn't leading anywhere. | ||
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