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On July 16 2010 13:32 SonKiE wrote: too bad that whole area is fubar Indeed it is. I cannot go to the beach any longer- people are starting to get sick from oil contamination and diffusion.
However, what angers me the most is that BP will not release or allow anyone to release aerial pictures of the spill since May. The norther gulf coast is likely blanketed, and they won't let us see, lest it prompt (ooh, gasp) third party action!
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i didnt knew you could pollute some land and then enforce some laws on that land like you owned it.
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On July 17 2010 09:36 exeexe wrote: i didnt knew you could pollute some land and then enforce some laws on that land like you owned it.
It's not a surprise this is America where Corporations are more powerful than the Government.
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On July 17 2010 09:49 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2010 09:36 exeexe wrote: i didnt knew you could pollute some land and then enforce some laws on that land like you owned it. It's not a surprise this is America where Corporations are more powerful than the Government.
Especially where those corporations have become the government.
/rimshot
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Well, actually, here is what is happening in my area: they are taking massive bags if oil and seawater that they have skimmed, and get this- they are dumping it into a landfill! So, why not mess up the land as well as the sea? This will have tremendous implications and effects, particularly because of the salt water and the dispersants of questionable ecological safety that BP sprayed all over the oil.
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On July 17 2010 12:00 neohero9 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2010 09:49 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:On July 17 2010 09:36 exeexe wrote: i didnt knew you could pollute some land and then enforce some laws on that land like you owned it. It's not a surprise this is America where Corporations are more powerful than the Government. Especially where those corporations have become the government. /rimshot
Touche. Glad to hear it's at least fixed up.
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On July 17 2010 13:19 All Quiet wrote: Well, actually, here is what is happening in my area: they are taking massive bags if oil and seawater that they have skimmed, and get this- they are dumping it into a landfill! So, why not mess up the land as well as the sea? This will have tremendous implications and effects, particularly because of the salt water and the dispersants of questionable ecological safety that BP sprayed all over the oil. LOL that's incredibly, incredibly illegal in Canada...
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dispersants is a really cute name for detergents.
they put a bunch of fucking soap in the water.
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On July 17 2010 13:29 L wrote: dispersants is a really cute name for detergents.
they put a bunch of fucking soap in the water.
Since when is soap banned in the UK, and cause headaches and in some reports vomiting.
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On July 17 2010 13:31 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2010 13:29 L wrote: dispersants is a really cute name for detergents.
they put a bunch of fucking soap in the water. Since when is soap banned in the UK, and cause headaches and in some reports vomiting. Detergents are pretty awesome like that. I don't think you'd want to wash yourself with a bucket of Triton X-100.
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its about time....jeez all that wasted oil >.<
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On July 17 2010 13:24 Chill wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2010 13:19 All Quiet wrote: Well, actually, here is what is happening in my area: they are taking massive bags if oil and seawater that they have skimmed, and get this- they are dumping it into a landfill! So, why not mess up the land as well as the sea? This will have tremendous implications and effects, particularly because of the salt water and the dispersants of questionable ecological safety that BP sprayed all over the oil. LOL that's incredibly, incredibly illegal in Canada... It's illegal in the US as well, except when the government is doing it. And this is why I want to move to Japan or SK.
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something i never understood. plz dont flame me.
oil is naturally found underground right?
So whats the difference between all the oil that is naturally stored on the planet and say the oil that i take outside and dump on the ground. isnt it going back where it came from?
couldnt hypothetically an earthquake strike the gulf coast oil areas and release all that oil into the water naturally?
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On July 17 2010 15:57 Coagulation wrote: something i never understood. plz dont flame me.
oil is naturally found underground right?
So whats the difference between all the oil that is naturally stored on the planet and say the oil that i take outside and dump on the ground. isnt it going back where it came from?
couldnt hypothetically an earthquake strike the gulf coast oil areas and release all that oil into the water naturally?
Well, to start, oil that you would have to dump on the ground has been refined, giving it a different viscosity etc. from the oil found naturally.
But more to the point, I read recently that some oil does leak entirely naturally from the seafloor, regardless of whether or not we're drilling for it. The entire Gulf region probably leaks something on the order of an Exxon Valdez sized spill each year. There are organisms and such in the water that consume and break it down naturally, so nature does clean up after itself in case of something like what you're mentioning. A massive spill like this one just dumps it into the ocean far faster than nature can deal with it on its own. Because of this, the Gulf itself (the actual water) will probably be fine within a year or two. The damage to the beaches, health, economy, and from whatever else BP is doing to try to cover up the spill is another matter entirely.
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interesting....................
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On July 17 2010 16:39 Macavenger wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2010 15:57 Coagulation wrote: something i never understood. plz dont flame me.
oil is naturally found underground right?
So whats the difference between all the oil that is naturally stored on the planet and say the oil that i take outside and dump on the ground. isnt it going back where it came from?
couldnt hypothetically an earthquake strike the gulf coast oil areas and release all that oil into the water naturally?
Well, to start, oil that you would have to dump on the ground has been refined, giving it a different viscosity etc. from the oil found naturally. But more to the point, I read recently that some oil does leak entirely naturally from the seafloor, regardless of whether or not we're drilling for it. The entire Gulf region probably leaks something on the order of an Exxon Valdez sized spill each year. There are organisms and such in the water that consume and break it down naturally, so nature does clean up after itself in case of something like what you're mentioning. A massive spill like this one just dumps it into the ocean far faster than nature can deal with it on its own. Because of this, the Gulf itself (the actual water) will probably be fine within a year or two. The damage to the beaches, health, economy, and from whatever else BP is doing to try to cover up the spill is another matter entirely.
If Alaska is any indication you're probably going to see tar balls washing ashore 10 years from now.
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Tar balls actually wash up on shores naturally- but not in the scale of this disaster. The amount of oil that spills into the gulf is equivalent to one exxon valdez every year, and this is natural. But this is much more potent because this oil is hitting shores in its liquid form, and in much higher concentration. Also, thus spill is exponentially larger than the exxon valdez.
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(CNN) -- The federal government's oil spill response director says testing has revealed that there is a "detected seep a distance from the well" and has ordered BP to quickly notify the government if other leaks are found.
"When seeps are detected, you are directed to marshal resources, quickly investigate, and report findings to the government in no more than four hours," retired Adm. Thad Allen said in a letter to BP Chief Managing Director Bob Dudley. "I direct you to provide me a written procedure for opening the choke valve as quickly as possible without damaging the well should hydrocarbon seepage near the well head be confirmed."
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On July 16 2010 05:40 Coagulation wrote: a dollar short and a day late.
60 billion dollars short and 2 months late..
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i'm glad that they finally got it plugged. i mean it's really late, but it could have been going on for another month if the media and the government didn't pressure them
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