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{CC}StealthBlue
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TheOGBlitzKrieg
United States346 Posts
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
The latest curio in the ongoing exhibition of BP obfuscation comes via John Aravosis at AmericaBlog, who examined an image from BP's website and determined it to be a fake. The image depicts BP's "Command Center" in Houston, where ever-vigilant BP employees sit in a dark room, monitoring screens. BP's website has been running a photo in which three men appear to be watching a ten-screen display of oil-spill footage. Here's the thing: it's a Photoshop job. And not just a poor one -- a seemingly unnecessary one. ![[image loading]](http://i.huffpost.com/gen/184978/BP-POHOTOSHOP.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.huffpost.com/gen/184981/BP-ORIGINAL.jpg) Source | ||
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Wonderballs
Canada253 Posts
I challenge you to do it faster. Engineering dosen't happen overnight. At least they got it done. | ||
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Deleted User 3420
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the levels to which they will deceive knows no bounds. they clearly don't even give a shit, to them the masses are sheep. | ||
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Integra
Sweden5626 Posts
Good job BP. I see the world really can put their trust in you once this is over. | ||
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Deleted User 3420
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http://itsjustlight.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/zGOM_simops_operations_top_kill_houston.jpg | ||
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nam nam
Sweden4672 Posts
On July 21 2010 04:07 Wonderballs wrote: To all of everyone saying "why did it take this long" I challenge you to do it faster. Engineering dosen't happen overnight. At least they got it done. It doesn't have to take months either. And your challenge is ridiculous. Give me the same amount of resources to fix the problem and free reigns to hire anyone I wanted and "I" might. | ||
Chill
Calgary25977 Posts
On July 21 2010 04:33 nam nam wrote: It doesn't have to take months either. And your challenge is ridiculous. Give me the same amount of resources to fix the problem and free reigns to hire anyone I wanted and "I" might. His post is ridiculous, but the point he's trying to make is that it is a really complex situation. People are like "why don't they just ..." without really understanding the magnitude of line pressure down there. | ||
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Piste
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Issor
United States870 Posts
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FindingPride
United States1001 Posts
or am i missing something? or is everyone else. | ||
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Hidden_MotiveS
Canada2562 Posts
A few thoughts came to mind: I wonder if they'll be able to express a cause for this tragedy. Wikipedia says that workers and supervisors expressed concerns before the explosion. Could this be another Challenger or Three Mile Island that could have been created had a safer work environment been in place? It's really not enough to just say "human error" and move on. At the UofT the first book engineers read is "The Human Factor" by Kim Vicente. We learn that people have to be treated well just as security systems are treated well. Otherwise we might have something worse in the future. One good thing to take from this is that the way people work on oil rigs will definitely change. On July 21 2010 05:56 FindingPride wrote: what if they instead of plugging it went ahead with there original plan and just drilled it after the fact. or am i missing something? or is everyone else. Wikipedia says that 110000 people sent BP suggestions for plans to contain the rig. They chose 320 that sounded ok and picked one later. Maybe it was just less dangerous to plug up the rig and resume drilling in the future. On 31 May, BP set up a call line to take cleanup suggestions and by 27 June, they had been inundated with more than 110,000 ideas from citizens of many countries. By late of June, BP had reviewed 92,000 and categorized 320 as "promising".[155] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deepwater_Horizon_oil_spill#Efforts_to_stem_the_flow_of_oil | ||
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Perdition
American Samoa77 Posts
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Maji
Australia82 Posts
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Zato-1
Chile4253 Posts
On July 16 2010 05:42 Craton wrote: What pisses me off isn't even that the well blew or that it took so long to cap it, but rather that the government outright refused free help that would have cleaned 99% of the spill throughout this whole process. Relevant article: http://www.financialpost.com/Avertible catastrophe/3203808/story.html I wasn't sure whether this article was legit- I wasn't ready to believe that the Obama administration could be so bombastically inept at handling the whole situation. Then I showed the article to a friend of mine who happens to be an engineer with a degree on environmental stuff (not sure how to translate it into english), and who did his thesis work on oil spills- and he corroborated the whole story. Why isn't there a major outrage over this? I can understand the outrage at BP, and it is completely justified. The problem is, Obama always talks about the spill and BP like he has the moral high ground, and he sure as hell doesn't. I am disgusted by this. Thanks for linking the article, Craton. It was very informative. It should ideally be linked in the OP. | ||
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ZeaL.
United States5955 Posts
On July 21 2010 22:12 Zato-1 wrote: I wasn't sure whether this article was legit- I wasn't ready to believe that the Obama administration could be so bombastically inept at handling the whole situation. Then I showed the article to a friend of mine who happens to be an engineer with a degree on environmental stuff (not sure how to translate it into english), and who did his thesis work on oil spills- and he corroborated the whole story. Why isn't there a major outrage over this? I can understand the outrage at BP, and it is completely justified. The problem is, Obama always talks about the spill and BP like he has the moral high ground, and he sure as hell doesn't. I am disgusted by this. Thanks for linking the article, Craton. It was very informative. It should ideally be linked in the OP. This was a huge controversy awhile ago and its more or less a fabricated issue. The linked article was obviously written as a hit piece full of bias and misleading "facts". The Obama administration could have taken more steps to clarify what was going on but really, they acted appropriately. First off, most of the time these "free help" offers actually had large price tags associated with them most of the time (link). From that article, only Mexico offered something to the US free of charge, all other countries asked for payment for aid. So really, its not so much "free aid" so much as "we have some things that we can sell you to help with the oil spill". Thats not to say that aid was unwanted, we probably don't have hundreds of miles of containment booms lying around waiting to be used, as the US did accept aid from many countries. When you change the term "free aid" to "potential suppliers" it sounds a little different right? The US took time to evaluate which offers were reasonable and which offers were not and rejected those offers. Secondly, a lot of the offers were for things that would arguably make things worse. France offered to sell the US a dispersant which the US rejected because shits nasty. Dispersants make sense on the surface but in a submerged water column the effects are unknown and possibly worse than just leaving the oil spill there. Instead of a oil/water mixture spreading out we now have an oil/soap/water mixture. The Dutch also offered to dredge sand to make sandbars to protect the coastline but many scientists were opposed to the idea because it destroys an already ecologically fragile system and doesn't even really do anything. Normal tidal movement would erode the protection almost immediately and if that doesn't do it the next hurricane/tropical storm would wipe it out. Really, this story was just publicized to incite and inflame, which is all the media does nowadays. Half truths and misleading information can go a long way in sensationalizing a non-story. | ||
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Blanke
Canada180 Posts
again and again and again! http://www.youtube.com/user/PropheticSeer#p/u/2/Fig5uCfFbSU This makes "An Inconvienent Truth" look like political rubbish. It doesn't help either what's happening to the loop current! (See below.) http://www.youtube.com/user/PropheticSeer#p/u/1/prU4wVoKUK4 I'm not exactly sure what this loop current is, as unfortunately I'm not an experienced meteirologist, but destroying it can't possibly do us any good. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
In the survey, commissioned by the rig’s owner, Transocean, workers said that company plans were not carried out properly and that they “often saw unsafe behaviors on the rig.” Some workers also voiced concerns about poor equipment reliability, “which they believed was as a result of drilling priorities taking precedence over planned maintenance,” according to the survey, one of two Transocean reports obtained by The New York Times. “At nine years old, Deepwater Horizon has never been in dry dock,” one worker told investigators. “We can only work around so much.” “Run it, break it, fix it,” another worker said. “That’s how they work.” Source | ||
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Blanke
Canada180 Posts
BP CEO Tony Hayward to step down in October. link: http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/TopStories/20100726/hayward-replacement-100726/ Well, it looks like the slimy bastard is getting the heck out of dodge. Personally, I think his plan to 'fully cap the leak' by the end of August is complete bollocks. There's always an ulterior motive to corporate douchebags like himself. I suspect he simply wishes to flee before shit really hits the fan. If I had any control over the situation, I would've drowned Tony in the oil spill for his incessant lies against the public. Alas, the corporations pervail. | ||
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