EPTThat's stupid and reactionary. =/
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MURICA15980 Posts
That's stupid and reactionary. =/ | ||
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
What is? His ban? Reactionary, maybe. Stupid? very arguable. | ||
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Trumpet
United States1935 Posts
Better than having it still open, but incredibly far from over. | ||
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Stratos.FEAR
Canada706 Posts
On July 16 2010 05:34 Bub wrote: Hell, it's about time. rofl i said the exact same thing out loud when i saw the thread title haha | ||
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tryummm
774 Posts
By the way, we still need an investigation of the Gulf oil spill and the events leading up to it along with an investigation of those (Including President Obama) who dumped a large portion of their stocks from BP in the weeks prior to the spill. | ||
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thopol
Japan4560 Posts
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neohero9
United States595 Posts
The energies poured into the acquiring of this resource ought to be matched by energies used to fix what may become broken. In this case containment, stopping, and cleanup of a catastrophic spill. It's incredibly apparent that BP didn't know how to handle such a situation, and that is a major problem, as we've seen the last 90 days. The article linked earlier in this thread about the Dutch offering their help is an incredible resource, and I think the government and any offshore-drilling oil companies ought to be made to consult with them in order to learn to have resources at the ready, and to move swiftly in order to fix the mistakes. The ban itself is very reactionary, yes. Its merit is debatable. On the one hand, we have a huge catastrophe caused by a technical malfunction (based on the track record of the company building the part that failed, sloppy construction is a serious possibility, but not the only one), and vastly exacerbated by unpreparedness; on the other we have other wells and other potential wells in similar conditions, at similar depths, made by companies who had nothing to do with BP or TransOcean which are functioning properly. I can see the ban having been imposed to force the drilling companies to create more thorough disaster-preparedness plans, and being in place until such time that those conditions are met. Obama's not a radical liberal, and his policies right before the Gulf spill reflect his position on oil drilling. The ban will be extinguished, hopefully once contingency preparedness is caught up to the possibilities. | ||
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sgeng
United States78 Posts
On July 16 2010 06:42 thopol wrote: That's good news, but BP needs to be prosecuted hard for this. They've been secretly bleaching islands to make them look better. Not cool. The link you provided can hardly be called a reliable news source. You can't just clean off oil from beaches just by spraying bleach on it from a plane...Besides, don't you think one of the many major news companies would have caught wind of it and published their own article? But as far as I can tell none of the bigger news sources have mentioned anything of the sort, which leads me to seriously doubt the validity of the article. Until a more reputable source publishes, I'm not buying. Also, BP can only be prosecuted if it has actually broken laws, not just because a spill occurred. Although I'd imagine there are many environmental laws that could be brought against them. What I'm trying to say is, no matter how much the public hates BP, you can't just sue them because you hate them. On July 16 2010 05:35 Trizz wrote: Lmao, BP lies about pretty much everything, they try to fake and cover every single thing.. It's funny when you finally find out the real truth, BP can't be trusted. On what grounds do you make such allegations. Sure BP screwed up royally but in what way have they been "faking and covering up every single thing"? Any company in anything remotely close to this kind of situation will of course try to manage the bad PR. But you can't just "cover up" an oil spill of this magnitude. If you are referring to the failed attempts to control the oil spill I would hardly consider those "faked" attempts...BP is as eager to fix the leak as anyone else. I am against offshore drilling and I hate that there is now a ridiculous amount of oil in the Gulf polluting everything. But demonizing a company because of an accident that everyone wishes never happened is stupid. BP screwed up, and they better fix the problem. I hope that they won't just stop at plugging the leak but also put a lot of money towards cleaning up the effects of their spills. Luckily, they have a $20 billion annual profit (not revenue) to draw from. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
On July 16 2010 06:58 sgeng wrote: The link you provided can hardly be called a reliable news source. You can't just clean off oil from beaches just by spraying bleach on it from a plane...Besides, don't you think one of the many major news companies would have caught wind of it and published their own article? But as far as I can tell none of the bigger news sources have mentioned anything of the sort. On what grounds do you make such allegations. Sure BP screwed up royally but in what way have they been "faking and covering up every single thing"? Any company in anything remotely close to this kind of situation will of course try to manage the bad PR. But you can't just "cover up" an oil spill of this magnitude. If you are referring to the failed attempts to control the oil spill I would hardly consider those "faked" attempts...BP is as eager to fix the leak as anyone else. I am against offshore drilling and I hate that there is now a ridiculous amount of oil in the Gulf polluting everything. But demonizing a company because of an accident that everyone wishes never happened is stupid. BP screwed up, and they better fix the problem. I hope that they won't just stop at plugging the leak but also put a lot of money towards cleaning up the effects of their spills. Luckily, they have a $20 billion annual profit (not revenue) to draw from. BP has hired reporters to write and report on news so that it is skewed to seem everything is fine, they have repeatedly lied about estimates on the spill, they have blocked reporters from asking about the oil spill to workers, and have banned pictures to be taken on threat of arrest. | ||
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MrMotionPicture
United States4327 Posts
But yes, they still have A LOT of work to do in the gulf before it is fine.... | ||
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DeltruS
Canada2214 Posts
On July 16 2010 05:41 travis wrote: This is excellent news. I thought the method they used to fix it was pretty neat, btw. How did they fix it? I couldn't find it. | ||
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BeJe77
United States377 Posts
On July 16 2010 07:02 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: BP has hired reporters to write and report on news so that it is skewed to seem everything is fine, they have repeatedly lied about estimates on the spill, they have blocked reporters from asking about the oil spill to workers, and have banned pictures to be taken on threat of arrest. Sources? Also of course they would block the reporters talking to the workers. News reporters write some of the most falsified, inconsistent, un-researched and biased news known to man. Their soul purpose or job is to create DRAMA for people like you and me to watch. It does not matter if that DRAMA is falsified or exaggerated, what's important are the ratings/viewer numbers.So why would they want to fuel that fire even more since everyone is gunning on BP so hard atm. The thing that sucks is that this happened. Off shore oil drilling WAS approved by OUR government. Blame them first, then the Company, but there is not much the Company could of done in this situation.The company did have fail safes in place, but apparently they didn't work. It just happened that BP was unlucky in this situation. But hey, they are trying their hardest, spending tons and tons of money to try and control/seal the rupture. You have to give them credit for finding solutions that didn't exist. We don't have the technology to deal with such accidents let alone clean them up. Look at the Exxon incident. If this oil spill is so terrible and what not as we/government make it out to be (yeah its bad). Maybe the government should of came in and chipped in it's MONEY and Resources to help BP out. | ||
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sgeng
United States78 Posts
On July 16 2010 07:02 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: BP has hired reporters to write and report on news so that it is skewed to seem everything is fine, they have repeatedly lied about estimates on the spill, they have blocked reporters from asking about the oil spill to workers, and have banned pictures to be taken on threat of arrest. First, BP can't hire reporters to write anything...at least not in major news avenues, which is why it's important to determine the repute and validity of your news sources. Hence the issue about the bleaching of beaches. BP can, however, bribe said reporters of reputable news sources. However, those are the reporters most likely to say no due to their reputation being on the line. Second, you can't know that they were lying about estimates. In fact I believe that BP has absolutely no incentive to lie about that at all. After all, they are the sole entity responsible for paying to clean up the spill. Whatever the cost of the spill, BP will be forced to dish out that much money either in their own direct efforts or compensation for external entities. The fact is that BP makes far more money than would ever be required to contain the spill. Although I certainly hope they go further and pay also for the effects of the spill. Third, BP cannot threaten to arrest anyone, only the police can do that. If BP says, "you will be arrested if you try to take pictures" then that only means that the police are enforcing that statement, which then means that we would be demonizing the police along with BP. The preventing of workers from talking to reporters is, as I said, an attempt to limit bad PR, but in no way is definitive proof of a cover-up or a lie. In any case I'm not trying to take BP's side. They really did frak things up. Just saying that sweeping generalizations and accusations serve no constructive purpose when clearly this sort of thing could have happened to ANY oil company. Keep in mind our own government allowed offshore drilling in the first place. That was a real facepalm moment. | ||
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kineSiS-
Korea (South)1068 Posts
On July 16 2010 05:34 Bub wrote: Hell, it's about time. LOL | ||
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Mykill
Canada3402 Posts
Lets save some wildlife  | ||
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mint_julep
United States254 Posts
Six months is not the within the foreseeable future? | ||
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Weasel-
Canada1556 Posts
On July 16 2010 05:42 Craton wrote: What pisses me off isn't even that the well blew or that it took so long to cap it, but rather that the government outright refused free help that would have cleaned 99% of the spill throughout this whole process. Relevant article: http://www.financialpost.com/Avertible catastrophe/3203808/story.html When I heard Sarah Palin talking about going to the Dutch for their help because they were "good with dikes" I thought she was being retarded and needlessly criticizing Obama to get herself more attention. How ironic. | ||
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jello_biafra
United Kingdom6641 Posts
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
here is the dumbed down version that i learned from the news they basically placed a cap on it, very thick but the cap has a series of valves, which were open when it was placed so when they first cap it, the oil comes out the holes, so it's not insane pressure(so they could get the cap on) then, as they check the pressure, they closed off those valves one by one | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
Paula Kolmar and Tom Seslar, two "reporters" hired by BP, have been blogging from the Gulf and posting descriptions of cleanup operations on the company's "Gulf of Mexico Response" PR Web site. One update by Kolmar, dated May 28 and titled "Ballet at Sea," describes the laying of oil-absorbent boom amid the unparalleled environmental disaster. Oil spill cleanup workers sick from hydrocarbons. The oil company hired fishermen to work on the cleanup efforts of the spill. BP forced the men to sign contracts that prohibit them from talking to the press about their health. Last week, wives of some of the fishermen spoke out publicly about the symptoms their husbands were experiencing, and now some fishermen are starting to come forward. The workers are stating that they are feeling drugged, disoriented, tingling, sick, fatigued, and having shortness of breath and cough. These are symptoms that are consistent with what one might expect from exposure to hydrocarbons in the slick. Source | ||
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