EPTTeacher Beats Student - Page 6
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GiantEnemyCrab
Canada503 Posts
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nath
United States1788 Posts
On May 14 2010 05:42 KwarK wrote: There was a similar case in the UK recently where a group of kids decided to collectively bully their teacher while secretly filming it to see how far they'd have to go and try and get a funny reaction. The guy snapped, grabbed a metal weight thingy and started smashing one of the most annoying ones in the head screaming "die!". Kids can often bully teachers terribly. In this case the student just got hit a few times while the teacher lost their career and marketable skill. I have more sympathy for the teacher. we are in the US (in the context of this case). touching a kid implies >$9001 lawsuit doing this means getting fired, then still getting sued by the parents american justice baby... and btw im american but yeah just sayin... | ||
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CursOr
United States6335 Posts
Maybe, this teacher had seen this kid beat and fight other kids many many times in just the same manner, and got that sort of visceral reaction that you might get when you watch just this video. I'll admit, its not fair at all. But, you have to acknowledge that sort of thirst for street justice in yourself- because you know its there. When you hear about a parent shaking a baby to death- you think- someone oughta shake them to death. This video, seems to me, like that is what you're looking at here. Someone who decided they were going to snap and pass out their own comeuppance to someone who had done wrong. | ||
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calvinL
Canada416 Posts
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micronesia
United States24779 Posts
1) Shouldn't someone who is going to snap like this and/or can't hand a class just choose something else besides teaching? A: Managing a challenging class effectively is very difficult. The lower paying schools in tough areas with uninvolved parents are the place where 'unmanageable' kids are. This happened at a charter school after all (I don't know anything about this one though). There are not enough people fully qualified in this area to fill all of those teaching positions. It's a much more complicated issue than "give the job to someone else if you are going to flip." Most of you in this thread have no idea just how horrible teaching a really 'bad' class is and would be driven to do far worse than her. 2) Why did she react like that to a kid simply teasing a kid? A: I don't know either but the key thing as pointed out by a few others is that we don't know the whole story from the article and what led up to this event... so all of you making such sweeping assumptions should back off a bit. 3) The teacher should be the mature one in the classroom A: This wouldn't have happened most likely if the teacher was this kid's personal one on one tutor for the day. Put 30 kids in a room for a year and see how easy it is to deal with it though. There's probably plenty more I can add but most people stick to their guns on teaching and education related issues and are very difficult to convince of anything. edit: addendum 4) Why can't you just remove a kid whenever (s)he is misbehaving? If they don't want to learn it's their business. A: Usually the teacher is required to make them do well on their assessments whether or not the kid/parents are trying at all or care. My state is about to pass a legislation where teacher pay is linked to among other things... student performance. That's gonna make it even HARDER to let the tired ass kid sleep without distracting anyone aside from the fact that you (the teacher) get yelled at for it already :p | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On May 14 2010 05 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 14 2010 05 end_of_the_skype_highlighting:46 KwarK wrote: Nobody can handle some of the little shits that go through the educational system. Their job is to teach, not act as free childcare for bad parents. No not really, at those ages they only teach trivial things and one of the most important skills for those teachers is being able to handle children. | ||
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StewKer
United States301 Posts
Granted I grew up after it was made illegal in most US states (still legal in a few) but my dad who is in his late 50s now grew up before they did so. It was fairly prevelent in those days. He said it was never something that felt excessive or anything, but boy did it keep you from stepping out of line. | ||
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micronesia
United States24779 Posts
On May 14 2010 09:35 Shikyo wrote: No not really, at those ages they only teach trivial things and one of the most important skills for those teachers is being able to handle children. What they are learning is not (or should not be) trivial. It may seem like it's trivial from the student perspective going through but it's not. Also I don't understand your point. Students don't really need to learn that much so teachers better be good at making students behave? | ||
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3clipse
Canada2555 Posts
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InToTheWannaB
United States4770 Posts
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micronesia
United States24779 Posts
On May 14 2010 09:39 InToTheWannaB wrote: This is why if your going to be a teacher you have to teach the first two years of elementary school, or the last two years of high school. All the years inbetween kids are ass holes, and will drive you crazy. Ironically new teachers are usually given the toughest (shitiest) classes :p | ||
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matjlav
Germany2435 Posts
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semantics
10040 Posts
On May 14 2010 09:40 micronesia wrote: Ironically new teachers are usually given the toughest (shitiest) classes :p Yup AP teachers when i went though high school were tenured teachers who been at the school a long time, hell my old AP history teacher is a good friend of mine, retired now he was at the school long enough to only teach AP classes which he loved as disruptions are short and students are there to learn. | ||
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PanN
United States2828 Posts
On May 14 2010 06:02 dicember wrote: wow, she just lost it. they both got what they deserved. while the white people are curing cancer and building societies, the black people in Houston just can't seem to get their shit together. Suck my dick five times over thanks. Weren't you banned for racist shit recently you stupid fuck? Yeah, you did, you wrote this recently, and the mod didn't even perma ban you, (who ever didn't is absolutely insane) 'On May 07 2010 12:17 dicember wrote: apparently, all non-african humans are 1-5% neanderthal. those genes that they gave to us also made us much smarter than non homosapien-neanderthal hybrids. now it's official. black people are stupid because they didn't get the neanderthal smart genes. User was temp-banned for 2 days for this post." You're a piece of shit. User was warned for this post | ||
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KwarK
United States44071 Posts
On May 14 2010 09:52 PanN wrote: Suck my dick five times over thanks. Weren't you banned for racist shit recently you stupid fuck? Yeah, you did, you wrote this recently, and the mod didn't even perma ban you, (who ever didn't is absolutely insane) 'On May 07 2010 12 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 07 2010 12 end_of_the_skype_highlighting:17 dicember wrote: apparently, all non-african humans are 1-5% neanderthal. those genes that they gave to us also made us much smarter than non homosapien-neanderthal hybrids. now it's official. black people are stupid because they didn't get the neanderthal smart genes. User was temp-banned for 2 days for this post." You're a piece of shit. Just ignore his post like the rest of us did and if you really feel strongly, pm a mod with a link to the objectionable post. I usually go to Hot_Bid for my bans but Mani's hammer is always looking for victims. | ||
Manifesto7
Osaka27174 Posts
On May 14 2010 06:02 dicember wrote: wow, she just lost it. they both got what they deserved. while the white people are curing cancer and building societies, the black people in Houston just can't seem to get their shit together. Banned for this post. | ||
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Reaper9
United States1724 Posts
However, it cannot be denied that children lack the punishment that keeps them in line. That's why America suffers from somewhat apathetic kids who don't take it from ANY authority. I shadow at schools often, and kids will TEST you to see how far they could go. (It's the parents jobs...which I will not comment on.) A lot are great. Some... Real teachers themselves must keep learning, they cannot punish physically anymore, but there is other ways that are humane. Today I shadowed my old teacher. She is strict, but she never yells. Instead she just adopts a stern voice and laser eyes. That gets the childrens' attention. Then they resolve the problem together Privately so they do not get embarrassed. The children love her. That is the difference between good teachers and the one mentioned in this article. | ||
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PanN
United States2828 Posts
Thank you Mani =) | ||
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TurboDreams
United States427 Posts
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Katsuge
Singapore7730 Posts
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