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peidongyang
Profile Joined January 2009
Canada2084 Posts
May 14 2010 02:56 GMT
#141
Well, if that was my kid, he'd be out on the street.

If that were my wife, she'd wouldn't be living with me.

the throws never bothered me anyway
rushz0rz
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Canada5300 Posts
May 14 2010 02:58 GMT
#142
On May 14 2010 05:42 KwarK wrote:
There was a similar case in the UK recently where a group of kids decided to collectively bully their teacher while secretly filming it to see how far they'd have to go and try and get a funny reaction. The guy snapped, grabbed a metal weight thingy and started smashing one of the most annoying ones in the head screaming "die!". Kids can often bully teachers terribly.
In this case the student just got hit a few times while the teacher lost their career and marketable skill. I have more sympathy for the teacher.


So you'd be okay with me physically beating your child if he showed me disrespect? That kid looks no older than 10 years old. Nobody deserves a beating like that from a teacher. Most kids need discipline, I don't disagree with that, but it is not the teacher's decision the extent of discipline.
IntoTheRainBOw fan~
shalafiend
Profile Joined April 2010
United States62 Posts
May 14 2010 03:04 GMT
#143
pft, maybe that kid deserved to get beat. In asia, corporeal punishment is the norm, rather than the exception, and just 50 years back, people still beat their kids in america- so why the big shock?
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
May 14 2010 03:07 GMT
#144
On May 14 2010 12:04 shalafiend wrote:
pft, maybe that kid deserved to get beat. In asia, corporeal punishment is the norm, rather than the exception, and just 50 years back, people still beat their kids in america- so why the big shock?

There is a reason why we stopped it's called psychology there are papers published every year in journals about the effects of corporal punishment on kids, with varying degrees a beating such as the one described is defendantly in the category of harmful psychologically.
Cloud
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sexico5880 Posts
May 14 2010 03:11 GMT
#145
On May 14 2010 11:58 rushz0rz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2010 05:42 KwarK wrote:
There was a similar case in the UK recently where a group of kids decided to collectively bully their teacher while secretly filming it to see how far they'd have to go and try and get a funny reaction. The guy snapped, grabbed a metal weight thingy and started smashing one of the most annoying ones in the head screaming "die!". Kids can often bully teachers terribly.
In this case the student just got hit a few times while the teacher lost their career and marketable skill. I have more sympathy for the teacher.


So you'd be okay with me physically beating your child if he showed me disrespect? That kid looks no older than 10 years old. Nobody deserves a beating like that from a teacher. Most kids need discipline, I don't disagree with that, but it is not the teacher's decision the extent of discipline.


You're not the father you can't pretend to be the father, and there's a reason why the actual father isn't allowed to be the one to exert justice for his son.
BlueLaguna on West, msg for game.
il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
May 14 2010 03:12 GMT
#146
Why didn't any of the other teachers do anything? Wow...
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-14 03:17:09
May 14 2010 03:13 GMT
#147
edit: misread
edit2: actually no wait i don't think i did.

On May 14 2010 12:11 Cloud wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2010 11:58 rushz0rz wrote:
On May 14 2010 05:42 KwarK wrote:
There was a similar case in the UK recently where a group of kids decided to collectively bully their teacher while secretly filming it to see how far they'd have to go and try and get a funny reaction. The guy snapped, grabbed a metal weight thingy and started smashing one of the most annoying ones in the head screaming "die!". Kids can often bully teachers terribly.
In this case the student just got hit a few times while the teacher lost their career and marketable skill. I have more sympathy for the teacher.


So you'd be okay with me physically beating your child if he showed me disrespect? That kid looks no older than 10 years old. Nobody deserves a beating like that from a teacher. Most kids need discipline, I don't disagree with that, but it is not the teacher's decision the extent of discipline.


You're not the father you can't pretend to be the father, and there's a reason why the actual father isn't allowed to be the one to exert justice for his son.

I would like this to be clarified by the context of the post this is in response to i believe this is about the farther being able to hit his own son.

but the use of for instead of on causes well confusion.

And with that the use of the word justice makes me feel sorry for any son of yours.
Cloud
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sexico5880 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-14 03:18:56
May 14 2010 03:16 GMT
#148
I meant justice as in the father won't be the one to punish the teacher, because rushz0rz implied that someone who empathizes should be the one to hand over the punishment or justice.

Rather ironic considering your user name.
BlueLaguna on West, msg for game.
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27154 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-14 03:22:38
May 14 2010 03:21 GMT
#149
On May 14 2010 12:04 shalafiend wrote:
pft, maybe that kid deserved to get beat. In asia, corporeal punishment is the norm, rather than the exception, and just 50 years back, people still beat their kids in america- so why the big shock?


Guess what! Taking the social norms from one culture and applying it to another to justify an action is a really really stupid way to argue!

"Mom my teacher cut off my labia today in sex ed class to show what female circumcision is!"

"They do that in Africa all the time. Stop being a baby."
ModeratorGodfather
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
May 14 2010 03:26 GMT
#150
On May 14 2010 12:16 Cloud wrote:
I meant justice as in the father won't be the one to punish the teacher, because rushz0rz implied that someone who empathizes should be the one to hand over the punishment or justice.

Rather ironic considering your user name.

Why do you think i chose it.
Z3kk
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4099 Posts
May 14 2010 03:27 GMT
#151
First of all, I'm not condoning violence against these little (innocent?) schoolchildren, but you must realize that a lot of you guys are very lucky to live where you do. In many neighborhoods, the schools have teachers that are extremely over-stressed, are paid shockingly little, and who also must deal with hundreds of students on a daily basis. The teachers might live in dangerous places, and the inhabitants could be close to being impoverished.

The schools themselves could be sh*tholes as well, with little to no funding provided to some public schools, and little students that run rampant getting on the nerves of their teachers and beyond. This wasn't a one-day incident where the teacher suddenly went crazy and started attacking the pupil (as far as I can see) and might have occurred over a period of years, even. Obviously, something must not be right with the teacher if she just explodes and vents her anger on a little schoolboy, but a jail sentence--à mon avis--would be an incongruous punishment for her "crime" of beating up this boy. I had been expecting some East Asian school incident where the teacher brutally beat a boy, and when I saw that it was an American school (?), I waited for some giant, inhuman blow(s), and saw none.

The teacher should be fired for not only a lack of proper control over her students but also for her personal lack of capacity to deal with this, but at the same time, a jail sentence would be rather absurd if you consider the available facts.
Failure is not falling down over and over again. Failure is refusing to get back up.
rushz0rz
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Canada5300 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-14 04:21:47
May 14 2010 04:19 GMT
#152
On May 14 2010 12:11 Cloud wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2010 11:58 rushz0rz wrote:
On May 14 2010 05:42 KwarK wrote:
There was a similar case in the UK recently where a group of kids decided to collectively bully their teacher while secretly filming it to see how far they'd have to go and try and get a funny reaction. The guy snapped, grabbed a metal weight thingy and started smashing one of the most annoying ones in the head screaming "die!". Kids can often bully teachers terribly.
In this case the student just got hit a few times while the teacher lost their career and marketable skill. I have more sympathy for the teacher.


So you'd be okay with me physically beating your child if he showed me disrespect? That kid looks no older than 10 years old. Nobody deserves a beating like that from a teacher. Most kids need discipline, I don't disagree with that, but it is not the teacher's decision the extent of discipline.


You're not the father you can't pretend to be the father, and there's a reason why the actual father isn't allowed to be the one to exert justice for his son.


You misunderstood me. I'm not saying the father should discipline the teacher. I meant it's not the teachers decision on how to discipline the child, well it is, but only to a very fine extent that are within the bounds of the law. It is ultimately the parent's decision on the extent of discipline their child receives for his wrong doing. I'm sure you would not like other people stepping in, like a teacher, and physically beating your child for teasing another child.
IntoTheRainBOw fan~
MuffinDude
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3837 Posts
May 14 2010 04:22 GMT
#153
Psh. Happens all the time in China. =D
Zerg can be so abusive sometimes | third member of the "loli is not a crime club" PM konadora to join!
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43188 Posts
May 14 2010 04:25 GMT
#154
On May 14 2010 11:58 rushz0rz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2010 05:42 KwarK wrote:
There was a similar case in the UK recently where a group of kids decided to collectively bully their teacher while secretly filming it to see how far they'd have to go and try and get a funny reaction. The guy snapped, grabbed a metal weight thingy and started smashing one of the most annoying ones in the head screaming "die!". Kids can often bully teachers terribly.
In this case the student just got hit a few times while the teacher lost their career and marketable skill. I have more sympathy for the teacher.


So you'd be okay with me physically beating your child if he showed me disrespect? That kid looks no older than 10 years old. Nobody deserves a beating like that from a teacher. Most kids need discipline, I don't disagree with that, but it is not the teacher's decision the extent of discipline.

Where did I say anything like that? I disagree with all forms of corporal punishment, especially on children. What a ridiculous straw man.

My point is that teachers are placed in an impossible position, placed under tremendous stress, bullied and abused by their charges and it is inevitable that some will snap. I don't view this as a good thing. But I can recognise that the teacher is by far the biggest victim of this situation.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
DanceCommander
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1808 Posts
May 14 2010 04:26 GMT
#155
Stuttering Stanley is the first thing I thought lol. But really fucked up though!
JaedongMidasAction
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States70 Posts
May 14 2010 04:27 GMT
#156
LOL WTF. haha go macho teacher. This is hella funny
anch
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States5457 Posts
May 14 2010 04:37 GMT
#157
hes 13 and not know how to fight back?
other than mopping the floor he showed no sign of resistance.
rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
May 14 2010 04:50 GMT
#158
wow, I don't agree with the teacher's actions, there are much better alternatives than a can of whoop ass. But I can relate to the teacher's anger. She needs to retake her student management classes lol.
GET OUT OF MY BASE CHILL
QuickStriker
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3694 Posts
May 14 2010 04:54 GMT
#159
Oh wow.... this sure is brutal... I mean I know how you people are saying how it happens all the time in other places in the world like China and all, but this is right here in the United States. This is definitely illegal and I'm sure it's illegal too in most parts of the world. And besides, do you guys really think it's morally correct for a teacher to beat up a student anywhere in the world no matter what the situation is (unless it's a life threatening which is a different story..)? I just felt like the teacher held in all that stress and pressure, never really released it and all it took was this one student to release EVERYTHING to her which I found it sad to happen....
www.twitch.tv/KoreanUsher
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
May 14 2010 05:06 GMT
#160
i dunno why but the pose she is in at the beginning looks like shes about turn into the incredible hulk.

does anyone else think the pose she is in at the start is very awkward?
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