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BruceLee6783
United States196 Posts
Actually, the original distribution of odds is still in effect. I disagree with this. The game show host has revealed what is behind only ONE of the doors. You may have chosen one door for yourself, but it's contents have not yet been revealed. If he opened door number 3, you can now disregard door 3. The original distribution of odds no longer apply. | ||
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ilovejonn
Canada2548 Posts
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XeliN
United Kingdom1755 Posts
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Navi
5286 Posts
so-so imo, I've had enough of people preaching me their philosophy for this year though  | ||
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tinman
United States287 Posts
On May 03 2010 16:11 Lixler wrote: I'm not demanding that anyone else's worldviews adhere to my logical system, only that my worldviews adhere to it. If anyone should want me to accept their worldview, then obviously they would have to demonstrate to me in some way that it is superior in some way to mine. i wish that you had just said Any faith-based worldview should be that in total if they want me to accept their worldview. If they want me to accept their worldview they shouldn't require evidence in certain conditions (e.g. evidence why God is fake) while not requiring evidence in other conditions (e.g. why God is real). from the get-go. it would have saved me some time because i have absolutely no interest whatsoever in getting you to accept a worldview. | ||
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XeliN
United Kingdom1755 Posts
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tinman
United States287 Posts
On May 03 2010 15:54 XeliN wrote: Tinman I'll give you an answer in the interest of debate, one should not belief without evidence as it is detrimental to the progression of mankind, also belief without evidence can be seen as having great influence in the violence, oppression and intolerance that we observe in the world on an every day basis. sorry XeliN i missed that you had said this. but you could probably guess what i have to say. i don't know why being detrimental to the progress of mankind (whatever that means) is a bad thing. i also kind of enjoy violence, oppression, and intolerance so i am willing to contribute to their continued flowering by whatever means is closest at hand. the more fundamental problem though is providing evidence for the belief that one should not do something that hinders "the progression of mankind." | ||
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XeliN
United Kingdom1755 Posts
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tinman
United States287 Posts
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tinman
United States287 Posts
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XeliN
United Kingdom1755 Posts
As the vast majority of manking would agree to holding these assumptions or similar notions then it is very easy to argue why belief with evidence is better. And you seem to be trying to force people into the position of arguing objectively whilst maintaining for yourself the luxury of subjectivity. | ||
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tinman
United States287 Posts
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XeliN
United Kingdom1755 Posts
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tinman
United States287 Posts
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XeliN
United Kingdom1755 Posts
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tinman
United States287 Posts
at any rate i am off to finish my paper. you know what they say about procrastination. | ||
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XeliN
United Kingdom1755 Posts
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Severedevil
United States4839 Posts
On May 03 2010 16:14 BruceLee6783 wrote: I disagree with this. The game show host has revealed what is behind only ONE of the doors. You may have chosen one door for yourself, but it's contents have not yet been revealed. If he opened door number 3, you can now disregard door 3. The original distribution of odds no longer apply. There is a one-third chance that the prize is behind the door you picked (Door 1), and a 100% chance that one of Door 2 and Door 3 is empty. You're suggesting that, if the host tells you which one of Door 2 and Door 3 is empty (or, if they're both empty, tells you one of them that's empty), the chance will somehow increase that Door 1 contains the prize. Nope. That could only be true if the chance that the prize is behind Door 1 depends on which of Door 2 and Door 3 the host opens. | ||
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jalstar
United States8198 Posts
You pick the car. The host eliminates one of the two remaining doors (doesn't matter since they both have goats). If you stay, you win. If you switch, you lose. Case 2: (2/3 chance) You pick a goat. The host eliminates the other goat, leaving the car in the door you can switch to. If you stay, you lose. If you switch, you win. Note that this depends on the host knowing where the car is and never eliminating it on accident or on purpose. If the host eliminates a door at random, you have a 1/3 chance of winning by staying, a 1/3 chance of winning by switching, and a 1/3 chance that you lose either way (proof left to interested reader) | ||
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phyren
United States1067 Posts
On May 03 2010 16:14 BruceLee6783 wrote: Show nested quote + Actually, the original distribution of odds is still in effect. I disagree with this. The game show host has revealed what is behind only ONE of the doors. You may have chosen one door for yourself, but it's contents have not yet been revealed. If he opened door number 3, you can now disregard door 3. The original distribution of odds no longer apply. Severedevil pretty much addresses this, but I can see why it would seem strange. Honestly though, just try it. Take like 3 pieces of paper or some such and write prize on the back of one of them and do this with a friend. Switch is the correct choice twice as often as not. | ||
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