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Aelfric
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Turkey1496 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-29 22:15:34
May 01 2010 22:44 GMT
#1
There is a guy nicknamed QualiaSoup in youtube that provides really proper and necessary knowledge about critical thinking and how simple it is to find out how wrong we can be sometimes. And since i am not the one who'll give you detailed information of this topic, i show you few must see videos of him. Of course you can find more in his channel.

First Videos:
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OLPL5p0fMg










Bump Edit:
There were so many responds and criticism to this thread once. After the Sc2 release and such there are so many new people between us and i kinda feel the need to open this discussion with bumping the thread again. QualiaSoup and ThereminTrees(Qualia's brother) added new videos about morality, god, gimmicks, games etc. so i would like to add them to the op too but i just can't edit them. Anyways again, you will find a lot more in the videos.

Here are the new videos:

About morality and god related subjects:
+ Show Spoiler +










About human psychology:
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKNyFSLJy6o




Some things to discuss:

Is critical thinking needed, should it be taught in school?
Does being skeptic a good aproach to moral related discussions?
Can morality be objective?
Anything related with videos.
Tomorrow never comes until its too late...
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
May 01 2010 23:53 GMT
#2
This is a dangerous road to scientism
Lixler
Profile Joined March 2010
United States265 Posts
May 01 2010 23:57 GMT
#3
On May 02 2010 08:53 zulu_nation8 wrote:
This is a dangerous road to scientism

What's wrong with that?

User was temp banned for this post.
Zurles
Profile Joined February 2009
United Kingdom1659 Posts
May 02 2010 00:00 GMT
#4
he talks and sounds pretty annoying and boring, Can't stand listening for very long.
e.soul[gm]
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Sierra Leone254 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-02 00:08:35
May 02 2010 00:04 GMT
#5
hahahaha, in the faith video im like "if he doesnt try to refute william lang craig this video sucks" then he mentions him. xD

edit/ not really enjoying the faith video too much now, he basically just says all the arguments for ontology, theistic etc etc beliefs are "doomed" but without actually addressing them/attempting to refute. i'm not a theist or anything, but as a voracious reader of these topics, i'm a bit letdown by his dawkins-esque dismissal of those "doomed" arguments.
http://www.last.fm/user/jesuspopk
rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-02 00:14:21
May 02 2010 00:13 GMT
#6
On May 02 2010 08:57 Lixler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2010 08:53 zulu_nation8 wrote:
This is a dangerous road to scientism

What's wrong with that?

It will alienate you from ppl who refuse to think critically intellectually. They will in term see you as an arrogant asshole.
GET OUT OF MY BASE CHILL
Lixler
Profile Joined March 2010
United States265 Posts
May 02 2010 00:17 GMT
#7
On May 02 2010 09:13 rei wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2010 08:57 Lixler wrote:
On May 02 2010 08:53 zulu_nation8 wrote:
This is a dangerous road to scientism

What's wrong with that?

It will alienate you from ppl who refuse to think critically intellectually. They will in term see you as an arrogant asshole.

As if that's something bad.
Pyrthas
Profile Joined March 2007
United States3196 Posts
May 02 2010 00:27 GMT
#8
On May 02 2010 09:13 rei wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2010 08:57 Lixler wrote:
On May 02 2010 08:53 zulu_nation8 wrote:
This is a dangerous road to scientism

What's wrong with that?

It will alienate you from ppl who refuse to think critically intellectually. They will in term see you as an arrogant asshole.

Well, the next trick is to not be an asshole, and learn how interact socially with other people. The two aren't mutually exclusive.
tinman
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States287 Posts
May 02 2010 00:27 GMT
#9
quaint.
"Politics is an extravagance, an extravagance about grievances. And poetry is an extravagance about grief. And grievances are something that can be remedied, and griefs are irremediable."
rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
May 02 2010 00:30 GMT
#10
On May 02 2010 09:17 Lixler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2010 09:13 rei wrote:
On May 02 2010 08:57 Lixler wrote:
On May 02 2010 08:53 zulu_nation8 wrote:
This is a dangerous road to scientism

What's wrong with that?

It will alienate you from ppl who refuse to think critically intellectually. They will in term see you as an arrogant asshole.

As if that's something bad.

It is not something bad if the majority of the human population enjoy critical thinking.
GET OUT OF MY BASE CHILL
rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
May 02 2010 00:32 GMT
#11
On May 02 2010 09:27 Pyrthas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2010 09:13 rei wrote:
On May 02 2010 08:57 Lixler wrote:
On May 02 2010 08:53 zulu_nation8 wrote:
This is a dangerous road to scientism

What's wrong with that?

It will alienate you from ppl who refuse to think critically intellectually. They will in term see you as an arrogant asshole.

Well, the next trick is to not be an asshole, and learn how interact socially with other people. The two aren't mutually exclusive.

Exactly, one must learn the skills to enlighten people without offending them, because everyone have the need to fit in socially
GET OUT OF MY BASE CHILL
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
May 02 2010 00:33 GMT
#12
critical thinking is nice but i don't like the examples he uses. I only went through one video but he seems to want to make religious people look like idiots.
Lixler
Profile Joined March 2010
United States265 Posts
May 02 2010 00:35 GMT
#13
On May 02 2010 09:33 zulu_nation8 wrote:
critical thinking is nice but i don't like the examples he uses. I only went through one video but he seems to want to make religious people look like idiots.

In the age of nihilism, they certainly are. Especially people whose religion has any kind of metaphysical assertions.
LunarC
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States1186 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-02 00:41:34
May 02 2010 00:36 GMT
#14
The LISTENING part of critical thinking is so underrated these days..

Religion does entail some old forms of thought, but their principles and concept are certainly useful to look at. The key is to discern what is useful and what is not. That's where critical thinking comes in. Simply calling religious people morons is not a solution; it only compounds the problem. Also, trying to use formally sound logical arguments and such to force a view on a religious person is not the right approach. It's important to listen first, then to internally question, and then to be willing to sacrifice personal convictions to reach new conceptions. This must be done on BOTH sides.
REEBUH!!!
rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
May 02 2010 00:38 GMT
#15
On May 02 2010 09:33 zulu_nation8 wrote:
critical thinking is nice but i don't like the examples he uses. I only went through one video but he seems to want to make religious people look like idiots.

This is the only reason I didn't play this in any of my classes, because I need to fit in socially for the good of the society, not for my self-fish self preservation!!!!
GET OUT OF MY BASE CHILL
K3Nyy
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1961 Posts
May 02 2010 00:40 GMT
#16
This is incredibly interesting. Everyone should watch this.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
May 02 2010 00:40 GMT
#17
On May 02 2010 09:35 Lixler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2010 09:33 zulu_nation8 wrote:
critical thinking is nice but i don't like the examples he uses. I only went through one video but he seems to want to make religious people look like idiots.

In the age of nihilism, they certainly are. Especially people whose religion has any kind of metaphysical assertions.


I don't understand, who said we're in an age of nihilism and which religions don't make any metaphysical assertions.
Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
May 02 2010 00:44 GMT
#18
On May 02 2010 09:33 zulu_nation8 wrote:
critical thinking is nice but i don't like the examples he uses. I only went through one video but he seems to want to make religious people look like idiots.

Don't worry, religious people are doing a fine job in that regard without any help from him.
Lixler
Profile Joined March 2010
United States265 Posts
May 02 2010 00:53 GMT
#19
On May 02 2010 09:40 zulu_nation8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2010 09:35 Lixler wrote:
On May 02 2010 09:33 zulu_nation8 wrote:
critical thinking is nice but i don't like the examples he uses. I only went through one video but he seems to want to make religious people look like idiots.

In the age of nihilism, they certainly are. Especially people whose religion has any kind of metaphysical assertions.


I don't understand, who said we're in an age of nihilism and which religions don't make any metaphysical assertions.


It should be pretty evident that the current age is nihilistic at root. Take any political controversy as evidence.

Buddhism doesn't make metaphysical assertions of the nature that are relevant to logic.
DCLXVI
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States729 Posts
May 02 2010 00:53 GMT
#20
I was mostly fine with the way he dealt with the faith issue. He made a point to mention that this was directed towards people who try to force their religions on others. I just zoned out for the last half because I believe that the best way to deal with people like that is to ignore them, not try to argue with them. As some TL poster's sig sums it up: "never try to argue with an idiot; they will bring you down to their level and beat you with experience." People like that are not worth my time.
I can already see the ending
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