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rei
United States3594 Posts
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Lixler
United States265 Posts
On May 02 2010 10:32 Ghostcom wrote: Because facts are something objective which a subjective thing can never become? And you just describe the best scientist  Nothing is truly objective, and nothing is truly subjective. The subject and object are both fictions. | ||
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rei
United States3594 Posts
On May 02 2010 10:57 Lixler wrote: Nothing is truly objective, and nothing is truly subjective. The subject and object are both fictions. If real is what you can feel, smell, taste and see, then 'real' is simply electrical signals interpreted by your brain ????  | ||
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Lixler
United States265 Posts
On May 02 2010 11:00 rei wrote: If real is what you can feel, smell, taste and see, then 'real' is simply electrical signals interpreted by your brain ???? Are the senses infallible? | ||
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rei
United States3594 Posts
On May 02 2010 11:00 Lixler wrote: Are the senses infallible? There is a difference between knowing the path and walking the path | ||
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Deviation
United States134 Posts
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Saturnize
United States2473 Posts
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o[twist]
United States4903 Posts
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Aelfric
Turkey1496 Posts
On May 02 2010 09:33 zulu_nation8 wrote: critical thinking is nice but i don't like the examples he uses. I only went through one video but he seems to want to make religious people look like idiots. With using proper arguments you can actually claim that someone is wrong. He doesn't bash anyone he just explains things intellectually if you think he is wrong then you need to write your arguments here. And he also says in faith video that most of religious people know that they can't prove their religion and they live for thyself which he has no problem with. Watch the video again. | ||
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Saturnize
United States2473 Posts
On May 02 2010 09:33 zulu_nation8 wrote: critical thinking is nice but i don't like the examples he uses. I only went through one video but he seems to want to make religious people look like idiots. What other examples could he of used? Would using examples of scientoligists be less offensive o.o | ||
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tinman
United States287 Posts
oldest fucking racket in the book. "if you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you. but if you really make them think; they'll hate you." -- Don Marquis (1878-1937) | ||
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GGTeMpLaR
United States7226 Posts
Scientism uses about as much critical thinking as the religious fundies it mocks There's a fine line between Science and Scientism. | ||
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Saturnize
United States2473 Posts
On May 02 2010 16:13 tinman wrote: dude is a blowhard, but the marketable part of the videos is that it gives people who desperately need it the sensation that they, too, are one of the select few critical thinkers with the intellectual wherewithal to see through the bullshit that everyone else cherishes so dearly in their unregenerate state. oldest fucking racket in the book. "if you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you. but if you really make them think; they'll hate you." -- Don Marquis (1878-1937) "Quotes don't make arguments" -Mark Twain | ||
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tinman
United States287 Posts
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e.soul[gm]
Sierra Leone254 Posts
i dont think that quote is meant to be refuting | ||
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Aelfric
Turkey1496 Posts
On May 02 2010 16:13 tinman wrote: dude is a blowhard, but the marketable part of the videos is that it gives people who desperately need it the sensation that they, too, are one of the select few critical thinkers with the intellectual wherewithal to see through the bullshit that everyone else cherishes so dearly in their unregenerate state. oldest fucking racket in the book. "if you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you. but if you really make them think; they'll hate you." -- Don Marquis (1878-1937) Don't make ad hominem here please. No one becomes critical thinker with watching few videos on it, whoever thinks like that basically wrong but you can actually discuss on some of his arguments instead of labeling him as a blowhard. Gaining critical thinking is a progress and needs time because of its development in mind claims that you could have done wrong and still behaving wrong about so many things. Scepticism doesn't care about what you feel on believes or ideologies it only deals with facts. | ||
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piratekaybear
United States50 Posts
On May 02 2010 16:31 e.soul[gm] wrote: i dont think that quote is meant to be refuting lol, yeah that's the joke.. | ||
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e.soul[gm]
Sierra Leone254 Posts
oh i thought he was being retarded, im going to the high thread now where i belong. | ||
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tinman
United States287 Posts
On May 02 2010 16:33 Aelfric wrote: Don't make ad hominem here please. No one becomes critical thinker with watching few videos on it, whoever thinks like that basically wrong but you can actually discuss on some of his arguments instead of labeling him as a blowhard. Gaining critical thinking is a progress and needs time because of its development in mind claims that you could have done wrong and still behaving wrong about so many things. Scepticism doesn't care about what you feel on believes or ideologies it only deals with facts. to be honest man i really can't make sense of most of your post there. not trying to be all ad hominem, but that english doesn't exactly pan out. anyway here is mypoint: you have a notion that this magical thing called skepticism allows you to transcend such intellectual confines as feelings, beliefs, & ideologies and "only deal with facts." but you're wrong. for many reasons but the one that's coming to mind here is that the idea of a fact is part of an ideology. likewise the blowhard that made that youtube video has this notion that "critical thinking" consists of eschewing biases of culture and upbringing. that notion is demonstrably a bias of culture and upbringing. the thing is that all of these arguments have been had out before by brilliant individuals and at great length. you're going to find them in books, though, not on youtube. hate to be the one who had to break it to you. | ||
Aesop
Hungary11291 Posts
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