EPTIf it were illegal then what does the school have to do with it shouldn't the police handle it? How the hell can a school discipline someone for something done at home?
School Spies on Students - Page 6
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thompzn
Sweden42 Posts
If it were illegal then what does the school have to do with it shouldn't the police handle it? How the hell can a school discipline someone for something done at home? | ||
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Cloud
Sexico5880 Posts
On February 20 2010 03:19 SARS wrote: He should also create an iPod Touch 5x bigger, and call it iTod.. wait, that's iPad.. Yeah, because why the heck would you buy a 50" tv when you can paste 4 25" tvs together? You can even watch 4 different channels with that setup! | ||
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Pika Chu
Romania2510 Posts
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De4ngus
United States6533 Posts
On February 19 2010 22:17 KwarK wrote: I can't imagine how someone didn't stop and point out how retarded this idea is. It's possible for one guy to get so caught up in his own enthusiasm he just doesn't notice he's forgotten something really important but the first time he told anyone else his plan to spy on children they should have pointed out to him the flaw. Maybe they are all pedos. | ||
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3FFA
United States3931 Posts
On February 19 2010 19:06 Jayve wrote: There's a simpler way to deal with it than uninstalling drivers. Solution: Sticker --> Ontop of webcam Caveman approach works everytime. lol I do this every time I get a new cpu/laptop no matter what. I never use it anyways. | ||
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Danzepol
United States211 Posts
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cgrinker
United States3824 Posts
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Gedrah
465 Posts
On February 19 2010 13:53 sRapers_ValkS wrote: just to clear it up; the school did not buy the laptops for us, they got a grant from apple. and regardless of what they have the "right" to do, it still makes my skin crawl that every time i open up that computer there could be someone watching me. Make a statement, smash it on the pavement in front of the school with a sledge hammer like the guy did when he bought O.J. Simpson's Heisman Trophy.  | ||
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Gedrah
465 Posts
On February 19 2010 22:37 Crazazyasian1337 wrote: Also, the school wasn't constantly monitoring him, it was just one or two pictures. Okay, Crazazyasian1337, let me ask you a question. If I snuck a camera into your home and remotely took a few photos of your child without permission, if it was only a few, well then that'd be okay, right? As long as it was just to keep the laptop safe? Oh by the way, I see that box of Havanas on the living room table. Say hello to the feds for me. ... | ||
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Achromic
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Gedrah
465 Posts
technically the school has the right to anything that is on the computer and has the right to confiscate or use the computer because of these forms we signed in the beginning of the year. and since the cameras are built in, some people are claiming they have a right to use the cameras remotely You should go to wikipedia and read about Yellow Dog Contracts. Their modern equivalent is using some form of duress to get people to sign something they would never sign, to give up rights no sane person would give up. This is commonly done via end-user license agreements which developers like to pretend function as signatures. But in this case, your entire school gets a laptop. The curriculum depends on this laptop. Presumably this is a public school, so you have to go here. Furthermore, the simple social consequences of refusing to sign the document are HUGE. Within a school district, all the parents that are on the dick of the district--the PTA parents who holler "THINK OF THE CHILDREN" and haven't done much with the constitution except wipe their asses--do their best to make themselves a loud and obnoxious presence in every way possible. Like most people who think they're right about something, these people have no qualms about denying the will of a large number of other people. After all, they're right! My point is, just because they coerce you into signing something doesn't mean they can do whatever the fuck they want. Even if you signed a paper saying they could. Duress is at play if your failure to sign the document would negatively impact the quality of your education or your chances at social ingratiation. | ||
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Gnosis
Scotland912 Posts
On February 20 2010 02:47 andrewlt wrote: I think they did sign consent forms. It's just that there is no consent form in the world that would make child pornography legal. Not to mention that if the kid shares his bedroom with somebody else or puts the laptop in his parents' bedroom or anywhere else in the house, the school can spy on people who did not sign the consent forms. Not to mention that infants (what the law calls minors) can get out of any contracts they sign, unless the court determines that they are abusing the hell out of that privilege. Right, and as the other poster(s?) have pointed out, certain rights can't be waived, no matter what's signed. | ||
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Gedrah
465 Posts
The school wants to have a particular power over you that the law does not provide them. They offer you a contract under duress, and you sign it. Regardless if this is legal or not, if you should take the laptop home they could still then take your picture with it because the hardware provides them that capability. They should not legally possess that capability, but through duress and de facto practices they give themselves illegal power to take your photo and used that power to gain knowledge of the student's actions illegally. The waiver you signed does not change this! Someone's going to fucking captial-p Prison! | ||
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wishbones
Canada2600 Posts
thats just dumb.. i wud seriously jerk off right in front of my laptop asap. jizz on their comp, say heres ur piece of shit comp back, now fuck urself! + Show Spoiler [Dont look Anger Rage!] + i want to smash a few laptops plz. let me break the fucking thing ill fucking kill the cocksucker who did this. | ||
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Crazazyasian1337
United States362 Posts
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ShaperofDreams
Canada2492 Posts
This is illegal on every level...who the fuck thought of this? Do they have no knowledge of law, human rights, the constitution, or common sense? Seriously who thought or heard of this plan and was like "Oh my, this is a fantastic idea, let's start right away! There can't possibly be any legal risk by filming hundreds of students in their homes! As someone above said wow 1984 I thought that was required reading in high school? The staff/administration/students should know this. | ||
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ShaperofDreams
Canada2492 Posts
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Archaic
United States4024 Posts
On February 19 2010 12:55 Chen wrote: the wikipedia article says there is reason to believe that some people actually did that. good god this is fucked up, the school better get whats coming to them "many of the images captured and intercepted may consist of minors and their parents or friends in compromising or embarrassing positions" including "various stages of undress". Oh, those high school boys... and those old high school administrators... Wait, ughhh. | ||
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Deleted User 3420
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or am I wrong about this? it doesn't seem to be very clear. | ||
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
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