• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 00:46
CEST 06:46
KST 13:46
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10
Community News
Rollback Netcode in Brood War845.0.17 Patch Notes - October 7, 202622Weekly Cups Results (Sep 28-Oct 4)0SC4ALL: II SC2 Complete Invited Player Lineup10StarCraft II 5.0.17 PTR Patch Notes (Sept 30, 2026)78
StarCraft 2
General
5.0.17 Patch Notes - October 7, 2026 ESL Pro Tour for SC2 discontinued [Old] StarCraft 3 Reportedly in Development StarCraft II 5.0.17 PTR Patch Notes (Sept 30, 2026) How do you feel about the mass reverts in the 5.0.17 PTR?
Tourneys
Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier RSL 2026 Offline Finals LCQ Sign-Ups $3,500 WardiTV Not-Summer Championship ScienceCraft (October 24-25) - Live Event
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Sweltering Sands [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 547 Temple Of Terror Mutation # 546 Catch the Train Mutation # 545 And Drops and Rifts
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion ASL FINALS HYPE VIDEO 2X Visiting korea this week BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ New 3v3 BGH Ladder (and more) on ShieldBattery!
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues ASL 22 Finals [ASL22] Semifinal A [ASL22] Semifinal B
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Replay Review Process - What do you do?
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Total Annihilation Zero
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread Artificial Intelligence Thread
Fan Clubs
Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
The Link Between Gaming and …
TrAiDoS
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
[meme] I finally understa…
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 14588 users

School Spies on Students - Page 7

Forum Index > General Forum
Post a Reply
Prev 1 5 6 7 8 Next All
Gedrah
Profile Joined February 2010
465 Posts
February 19 2010 23:49 GMT
#121
While the student's being punished isn't taking place in a court of law, normally the Exclusionary Principle would invalidate any evidence collected in a manner that violates an individual's constitutional rights, e.g. if the police enter your home unlawfully and discover marijuana plants, they've shot themselves in the foot as far as prosecuting the case to their liking. That doesn't mean you always get off scott free but it can cause them huge problems.

Despite that they were not legally permitted to take those photos, they MIGHT be able to get away with punishing the student at school, having learned that he was smoking marijuana. I don't know how that works or what the school's power is on that matter, as far as punishing a student that they know to have smoked pot, but I know that if you beat someone up on your way to or from school, the school is legally allowed to punish and\or suspend\expel you for it, because it's been held up in court that you're somehow the school's responsibility and under its jurisdiction (schools have jurisdiction?) at those times.

The laptop wasn't reported as stolen, per se, but they have an insurance policy in place that the kids have to buy else they aren't allowed to take the laptop off campus. He took it with him anyway and this somehow made them believe it was stolen. However, the principal's posting did state that they use the photos for the SOLE PURPOSE and NO OTHER REASON than to recover wayward laptops. Upon seeing that the student to whom it was assigned had it, they could perhaps punish him for taking it without permission, but they have no business looking at, studying, or drawing conclusions or levying punishments based on ANYTHING else in the image, according to the posting he made. I don't doubt that personnel who review candid photos like this (and changing rooms, medical lobbies, etc) chuckle and swear and jerk off and generally have a good old time looking at photos they had no right to ever see. Such people have black sewage for blood and I hope they get crabs.
What is a dickfour?
AlienAlias
Profile Joined June 2009
United States324 Posts
February 19 2010 23:54 GMT
#122
On February 20 2010 08:37 HazMat wrote:
So what would happen to the school district if they lost the law-suit? (which they will) Would it get closed down and the kids who lived in the district had to go to some other one?


Why would the school district be closed down? O.o
Crazazyasian1337
Profile Joined October 2009
United States362 Posts
February 20 2010 00:36 GMT
#123
lol, It won't be closed down. I'm not actually sure what is going on, but it won't be anything crazy like that. Probably just some money paid somewhere.
;)))))))))
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
February 20 2010 00:53 GMT
#124
On February 20 2010 09:36 Crazazyasian1337 wrote:
lol, It won't be closed down. I'm not actually sure what is going on, but it won't be anything crazy like that. Probably just some money paid somewhere.

I'm guessing a lot of people will be fired?
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
Crazazyasian1337
Profile Joined October 2009
United States362 Posts
February 20 2010 00:58 GMT
#125
I don't expect anyone from my school specifically to get the boot, but people from the other school (the one where it actually took place) and the higher ups in the district are truly fucked.
;)))))))))
MamiyaOtaru
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1687 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-20 01:01:40
February 20 2010 01:01 GMT
#126
On February 20 2010 07:59 Crazazyasian1337 wrote:
the software on the computer is designed so that if a computer is reported as stolen, it takes 2 pictures and sends it to the school when the computer is turned on. One picture of what is on the screen at the time and one from the webcam to see who is using the computer and again, this is only done when a computer is lost or stolen. the kid who got the picture taken of him hadn't paid for the insurance on the laptop, and therefore wasn't allowed to leave school with it, which he did anyway. Thus, the school thought that it was stolen and activated the camera, and the kid just happened to be doing something wrong in front of the camera at the time, and was thus disciplined for it.

If what he did wrong (that the pic provided evidence of) is taking the laptop out of school when he hadn't paid the insurance, then the school is not in the wrong at all.

EDIT if that's the case they should say so and end the shitstorm
Crazazyasian1337
Profile Joined October 2009
United States362 Posts
February 20 2010 01:49 GMT
#127
there is a lot controversy over whether the school should or shouldn't be allowed to use the photo they took as evidence against him since it was taken from his home.
;)))))))))
Crazazyasian1337
Profile Joined October 2009
United States362 Posts
February 20 2010 03:32 GMT
#128
http://www.lmsd.org/sections/news/default.php?m=0&t=today&p=lmsd_anno&id=1143

yet another update on the situation
;)))))))))
Fen
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Australia1848 Posts
February 20 2010 05:34 GMT
#129
Ok, this changes things.

The laptop WAS stolen. The kid who took it did not have permission to do so. The laptop then automatically took a picture, rather than being controlled by someone else. The activity that the kid was being punished for is most likely the taking home of school properety. Therefore the school has a strong defence.

Still
3. Were students and families explicitly told about the laptop security system?

* No. There was no formal notice given to students or their families. The functionality and intended use of the security feature should have been communicated clearly to students and families.

Thats going to cause them some troubles.
Sulli
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada236 Posts
February 20 2010 07:30 GMT
#130
Crazazyasian1337, you should edit your opening post and include the update. If the new information is true, then it does indeed change things.

And Gedrah, are you an English major or something like that? Your posts read like essays.
SanguineToss
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada815 Posts
February 20 2010 07:44 GMT
#131
They are truly fucked
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
February 20 2010 10:04 GMT
#132
but I know that if you beat someone up on your way to or from school


There has to be some tie to the school, like waiting at a bus stop or using their transportation; it's not just carte blanche.
twitch.tv/cratonz
MuffinDude
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3837 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-20 10:26:35
February 20 2010 10:17 GMT
#133
Dude. Hell no. Shut the school down.

And wtf. 1000 dollar laptop to let students borrow for free? 2620 purchased? 262000 dollars spent total? WTF ARE WE DOING WITH OUT TAX MONEY?!?!?! HOLY SHIT. THIS IDEA IS DUMB, STUPID, INVASION OF PRIVACY, AND A BIG WASTE OF MONEY! NO WONDER WHY AMERICA IS IN A DEPRESSION AND HAS A HARD TIME GETTING OUT OF IT!

I mean I just got a brand new laptop with pretty nice hardware and it only costed me 600 dollars after buying it off about 200 dollars off.

I want to spend 1000 dollars on a laptop. Then I might be able to buy a laptop with the same hardware capabilities but with a graphics card instead of an itegrated one. -_-
Zerg can be so abusive sometimes | third member of the "loli is not a crime club" PM konadora to join!
KurtistheTurtle
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1966 Posts
February 20 2010 10:50 GMT
#134
shut the school down? this thread is full of overreactions
“Reject your sense of injury and the injury itself disappears."
WhuazGoodJaggah
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Lesotho777 Posts
February 20 2010 11:05 GMT
#135
On February 20 2010 19:17 MuffinDude wrote:
Dude. Hell no. Shut the school down.

And wtf. 1000 dollar laptop to let students borrow for free? 2620 purchased? 262000 dollars spent total? WTF ARE WE DOING WITH OUT TAX MONEY?!?!?! HOLY SHIT. THIS IDEA IS DUMB, STUPID, INVASION OF PRIVACY, AND A BIG WASTE OF MONEY! NO WONDER WHY AMERICA IS IN A DEPRESSION AND HAS A HARD TIME GETTING OUT OF IT!

I mean I just got a brand new laptop with pretty nice hardware and it only costed me 600 dollars after buying it off about 200 dollars off.

I want to spend 1000 dollars on a laptop. Then I might be able to buy a laptop with the same hardware capabilities but with a graphics card instead of an itegrated one. -_-



yeah, spending 1000$ on a kids education is clearly the reason why you are in a depression.
get some brain, ok?
small dicks have great firepower
Queequeg
Profile Joined September 2003
Germany263 Posts
February 20 2010 11:33 GMT
#136
On February 20 2010 19:17 MuffinDude wrote:
And wtf. 1000 dollar laptop to let students borrow for free? 2620 purchased? 262000 dollars spent total?

For maths this advanced you should have used your brand new laptop. It's really hard to multiply by 1000.
Suc
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia1569 Posts
February 20 2010 11:42 GMT
#137
On February 20 2010 19:17 MuffinDude wrote:And wtf. 1000 dollar laptop to let students borrow for free? 2620 purchased? 262000 dollars

$2,620,000 and yeah, that is a lot for some school to use
MuffinDude
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3837 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-20 20:50:17
February 20 2010 20:46 GMT
#138
On February 20 2010 20:33 Queequeg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2010 19:17 MuffinDude wrote:
And wtf. 1000 dollar laptop to let students borrow for free? 2620 purchased? 262000 dollars spent total?

For maths this advanced you should have used your brand new laptop. It's really hard to multiply by 1000.

Whoops, I somehow thought that laptops costed 100. I guess doing math at 3 am is not easy.
On February 20 2010 20:05 WhuazGoodJaggah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2010 19:17 MuffinDude wrote:
Dude. Hell no. Shut the school down.

And wtf. 1000 dollar laptop to let students borrow for free? 2620 purchased? 262000 dollars spent total? WTF ARE WE DOING WITH OUT TAX MONEY?!?!?! HOLY SHIT. THIS IDEA IS DUMB, STUPID, INVASION OF PRIVACY, AND A BIG WASTE OF MONEY! NO WONDER WHY AMERICA IS IN A DEPRESSION AND HAS A HARD TIME GETTING OUT OF IT!

I mean I just got a brand new laptop with pretty nice hardware and it only costed me 600 dollars after buying it off about 200 dollars off.

I want to spend 1000 dollars on a laptop. Then I might be able to buy a laptop with the same hardware capabilities but with a graphics card instead of an itegrated one. -_-



yeah, spending 1000$ on a kids education is clearly the reason why you are in a depression.
get some brain, ok?

Dude, 1000 per laptop, I did my math incorrectly, but 2620000 dollars on one school. With 1000 dollars, you can get really nice laptops, which is completely unnecessary for a good education, just get them like a $500 laptops and cut costs by half. Its little things like these that adds up to the huge debt that America has right now. You're an idiot for thinking that kids need $1000 laptops for education when $500 laptop is good enough.
Zerg can be so abusive sometimes | third member of the "loli is not a crime club" PM konadora to join!
SweeTLemonS[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
11739 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-20 21:29:01
February 20 2010 21:03 GMT
#139
On February 19 2010 22:48 Tomer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2010 12:51 Chen wrote:
invasion of privacy and first amendment rights. get together with everyone else that got a computer and sue their ass to hell.
99.99% sure this is blatantly illegal, esp if they didn't tell you that they were there, probably still illegal if they did tell you


QFT

I hope the people responsible from the schools get a hardcore banhammer coming down on them!



Fourth. Fourth Amendment. It really bugs me that no one pointed that out in the first four or five pages. They aren't inhibiting their ability to protest, or speak freely, etc, they're invading privacy, which is the fourth amendment.

"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

On February 21 2010 05:46 MuffinDude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2010 20:33 Queequeg wrote:
On February 20 2010 19:17 MuffinDude wrote:
And wtf. 1000 dollar laptop to let students borrow for free? 2620 purchased? 262000 dollars spent total?

For maths this advanced you should have used your brand new laptop. It's really hard to multiply by 1000.

Whoops, I somehow thought that laptops costed 100. I guess doing math at 3 am is not easy.
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2010 20:05 WhuazGoodJaggah wrote:
On February 20 2010 19:17 MuffinDude wrote:
Dude. Hell no. Shut the school down.

And wtf. 1000 dollar laptop to let students borrow for free? 2620 purchased? 262000 dollars spent total? WTF ARE WE DOING WITH OUT TAX MONEY?!?!?! HOLY SHIT. THIS IDEA IS DUMB, STUPID, INVASION OF PRIVACY, AND A BIG WASTE OF MONEY! NO WONDER WHY AMERICA IS IN A DEPRESSION AND HAS A HARD TIME GETTING OUT OF IT!

I mean I just got a brand new laptop with pretty nice hardware and it only costed me 600 dollars after buying it off about 200 dollars off.

I want to spend 1000 dollars on a laptop. Then I might be able to buy a laptop with the same hardware capabilities but with a graphics card instead of an itegrated one. -_-



yeah, spending 1000$ on a kids education is clearly the reason why you are in a depression.
get some brain, ok?

Dude, 1000 per laptop, I did my math incorrectly, but 2620000 dollars on one school. With 1000 dollars, you can get really nice laptops, which is completely unnecessary for a good education, just get them like a $500 laptops and cut costs by half. Its little things like these that adds up to the huge debt that America has right now. You're an idiot for thinking that kids need $1000 laptops for education when $500 laptop is good enough.



What the fuck would anyone NEED a laptop in high school for? The material is so ridiculously easy anyway. You can literally sleep in all of your classes and get 3.5 at least (I know this, because I did it). You hardly even have to take notes, the only thing laptops will get used for in high school is browsing facebook and stuff. In college, the majority of kids I've seen with laptops are not using them to take notes, but rather to browse the internet while the prof speaks.

Throw in that these schools are buying insanely overpriced Macbooks? Wtf? Link Holy shit, I just saved a single school over a million dollars, like you suggested. There is absolutely NO need for $1000 laptops, it's a complete misallocation of resources. Anyone defending the school is a tard.
I'm never gonna know you now \ But I'm gonna love you anyhow.
Crazazyasian1337
Profile Joined October 2009
United States362 Posts
February 20 2010 22:32 GMT
#140
the school got the laptops through a grant with apple
;)))))))))
Prev 1 5 6 7 8 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 6h 14m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ProTech158
StarCraft: Brood War
Rain 3249
GuemChi 2103
Sharp 194
Aegong 43
Icarus 7
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm202
League of Legends
JimRising 719
Counter-Strike
taco 524
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King91
Other Games
summit1g6700
WinterStarcraft570
C9.Mang0293
PiGStarcraft256
Sick113
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV177
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• practicex 21
• Letter149
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota281
League of Legends
• Lourlo1224
• Rush931
• Stunt307
Other Games
• Shiphtur605
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Weekly
6h 14m
PiGosaur Cup
19h 14m
Kung Fu Cup
1d 6h
The PondCast
2 days
Online Event
3 days
Korean StarCraft League
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
Rush vs Soulkey
CranKy Ducklings
4 days
BSL Open Qualifier
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
[ Show More ]
IPSL
5 days
BSL Open Qualifier
5 days
WardiTV Weekly
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-10-12
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Copium Cup

Ongoing

ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
Acropolis #5
HCC Season 3
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSC
BSL Season 23
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.