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MamiyaOtaru
United States1687 Posts
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Emon_
3925 Posts
On December 04 2009 21:34 lOvOlUNiMEDiA wrote: http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=9384 Naomi Klein's response: http://www.naomiklein.org/articles/2008/09/response-attacks | ||
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Xenocide_Knight
Korea (South)2625 Posts
I remember seeing it at the bookstore sometime ago and thinking "damn i need to come back and get this book once i have the money".. Hooray christmas! | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32097 Posts
On December 04 2009 22:38 Liquid`Drone wrote: well normally when you read a book you think is great you at least let it influence you ;p yeah, but do you necessarily think that great is the same as interesting and eye opening?? to me, great means it has those two qualities and you agree with it :o though if you disagree with the person, props to y ou for reading the other side of the story. probably 95% of people would never try that | ||
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Lovin
Denmark812 Posts
![[image loading]](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e6/George_Catlett_Marshall%2C_general_of_the_US_army.jpg/524px-George_Catlett_Marshall%2C_general_of_the_US_army.jpg) It was a trap! | ||
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Foucault
Sweden2826 Posts
On December 04 2009 22:09 Liquid`Drone wrote: this is a very good book but I can't fathom that you have read it - based on your posts you seem to disagree with naomi klein on mostly every issue you've posted about. Good point, and I do disagree with her alot. I still think it's a great book. Free market capitalism would be awesome in the best of worlds..just like communism. I let everything influence me. I don't take pride in having certain beliefs and my opinions are always open for change | ||
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tinman
United States287 Posts
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Foucault
Sweden2826 Posts
On December 05 2009 02:42 tinman wrote: The question is what wouldn't be awesome in the best of worlds? Yeah well just saying | ||
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Foucault
Sweden2826 Posts
It's the quitessential book on the economic history of the world the last 4-5 decades. It concerns everyone Do it. | ||
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
On December 05 2009 02:42 tinman wrote: The question is what wouldn't be awesome in the best of worlds? tornados | ||
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Radiomouse
Netherlands209 Posts
but what other fitting nickname would we give nada if there were no tornados? : ( | ||
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Biff The Understudy
France7928 Posts
We had Marx, and then thinkers such as Debord, Sartre, Adorno, Foucault, Althusser, Deleuze, Badiou, Zizek, Rancière, etc etc etc... who have analyzed theses phenomenon ages ago. It is striking to read The Capital, from Marx, or The Society of the Spectacle from Debord, and to realize that what they describe in the natural process of capitalism is exactly accurate, and perfectly predicted. Zeiteist is a pile of shit, for brainless amateurs of the plot theories. Nothing serious there. And its critic of capitalism is innacurate. | ||
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Foucault
Sweden2826 Posts
I've read parts of Marx's writings, and Foucault and many others. I think the OP explains what this book is about, the economy of the world the last couple of decades. It's not a discovery of capitalism it's a "discovery" of it's effects that arent always easily noticed from a laymans point of view. | ||
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Biff The Understudy
France7928 Posts
On December 05 2009 03:51 Foucault wrote: Why are you talking about Zeitgeist? I don't even I've read parts of Marx's writings, and Foucault and many others. I think the OP explains what this book is about, the economy of the world the last couple of decades. It's not a discovery of capitalism it's a "discovery" of it's effects that arent always easily noticed from a laymans point of view. Someone in teh first posts talked about Zeitgeist. I forgot to quote. Anyway, I agree with you. Problem is, you really have to be a complete dummy not to "notice" the pervert effects of capitalism today. Problem is not that people don't see. Problem is people don't want to see. Just go to the next Mc Donald, the next Virgin Megastore or watch the news with a critical eye, and you see straight away what is wrong. I didn't want to be pessimistic. I am sure it's a good book, and that's great someone succesful writes about it. It's just sad there is any need to talk about it. | ||
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koreasilver
9109 Posts
Of course the idea that capitalism is fucking things up all over the world isn't new, but the book delved into deeper things that are often overlooked which is what made the book a great read. | ||
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.risingdragoon
United States3021 Posts
I don't think anyone should be surprised by it, given that capitalism has no allegiance except to the pursuit of money and that it is transformative as power consolidates. | ||
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Biff The Understudy
France7928 Posts
On December 05 2009 04:00 .risingdragoon wrote: I'll have to read it. I don't think anyone should be surprised by it, given that capitalism has no allegiance except to the pursuit of money and that it is transformative as power consolidates. If you knew how happy I am to read something like that here, you would feel like some kind of angel. | ||
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thopol
Japan4560 Posts
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tinman
United States287 Posts
I don't know that tornados would exist in the best of worlds. Or maybe they would, but they would function more like some naturally occuring, surprise rollercoaster ride! Everyone would love life in Kansas! | ||
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freelander
Hungary4707 Posts
On December 04 2009 22:58 Kong John wrote: Im going to buy AND read it because of this thread, so screw you people. i will download it and read it. | ||
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