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qrs
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3637 Posts
December 03 2009 02:49 GMT
#61
Man, I'm seeing myself when I read that...
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blue_arrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1971 Posts
December 03 2009 02:56 GMT
#62
very interesting read
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D10
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Brazil3409 Posts
December 03 2009 02:57 GMT
#63
On December 03 2009 10:34 ghostWriter wrote:
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On December 03 2009 09:36 meaculpa wrote:
Who's a philosophy professor to tell the rest of the world to "go get a job"? While most people have to get a job shortly after they get their BA/BS, he enjoyed another 3-8 year extension of his college life known as "grad school". Anyway, why should a job and marriage be the top aspirations of my life? The new generation must take on job to keep society running, but nobody will ever bullshit me into enjoying staying awake for 15 hours, fixing a bug carelessly made 5 years ago in some boring program maybe 1000 people in the world care about. I'd do it because I get paid and that's it. And marriage? I think misgivings about marriage would be very understandable given that 50% of marriages fail, quickly. Maybe it's time to reconsider it?


Agree. Philosophy is up there with psychology and theology for the sections with the easiest and most bullshit courses.


Sadly psycology is an easy course, it could be much much harder, the problem is you can really educate someone to be a psycologist, its kinda inate
" We are not humans having spiritual experiences. - We are spirits having human experiences." - Pierre Teilhard de Chardin
PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-03 03:05:34
December 03 2009 03:03 GMT
#64
On December 03 2009 04:17 CharlieMurphy wrote:
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Personal development occurs most dramatically in social interactions. It is in these interactions that students develop skills to relate to others, learn to deal with rejection and satisfy their needs to be known and loved for who they are. If the college social scene is dominated by alcohol and drugs, intoxication makes it exceedingly difficult to develop social skills, heighten responsiveness or deepen relationships. If every party centers on alcohol, students cannot confront new social problems to solve, find new ways of interacting with others or develop new possibilities for the deeper realization of the basic needs for recognition, empathy and friendship.


wait what? Most people who do drugs and drink at parties are pretty social and have lots of acquaintances and friends all over the place. Just think of this, if you are out of smokes and money and addicted, it forces you to go out and talk to people. Often times you make friends this way alone, this is one of the only pros to smoking cigarettes.

You don't nominally form solid and worthwhile relationships you get growth out of that way.

On December 03 2009 04:45 CharlieMurphy wrote:
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On December 03 2009 04:43 Amber[LighT] wrote:
On December 03 2009 04:33 CharlieMurphy wrote:
Don't a lot of college kids have shitty part time jobs anyways? Doesn't this cover all of that shit?


A lot of college kids don't have jobs at all.

so, what? You just live off parents money and/or student loans?
Then there's the problem right there. Students are babied.

I don't see a problem with it. I'd be willing to sacrifice my pride to be able to focus more on my education.
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ShaperofDreams
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2492 Posts
December 03 2009 04:11 GMT
#65
I'm going through a quarter life crisis type thing right now, even though I'm only 19. I realize that nothing we do really matters.. and that most of the people I am supposed to model myself after I don't want to be. I think that I've trudged through this and I'm gonna start doing what I want to.
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seppolevne
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada1681 Posts
December 03 2009 04:13 GMT
#66

For all of its exhilaration and excitement, however, youth culture can only produce a repetition of adolescent forms of thought and action with no impetus toward development into mature forms of personal and social life.

What is an "adolescent form of thought" and how is the only possibility repeating it? What is a "mature form of personal life"? What is a "mature form of social life"?

...mainly because the college years are short and students either transfer, drop out or do not know what they want to do after college or where they want to do it. With this kind of uncertainty about the future, how can a student make a commitment to sustain a love relationship?

College is a 4-year program, the average time spent at a job is ~5 years.

Joe is accepted into the law program at Berkeley; Susan wishes to pursue a Ph.D. in physics at MIT. They cannot allow themselves to fall too much in love or the dream of one will have to give way to the dream of the other.

Because being accepted for a job in another city is completely different then studying there. And long-distance relationships never work out.

This paper needs to be covered in those little wikipedia [source?] notes.
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miseiler
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States1389 Posts
December 03 2009 04:17 GMT
#67
I'm all for four subsidised years of kindergarten.

I think I needed that experience so that I could grow up later...otherwise how would I have gotten it out of my system and moved on?

Someone can say, "let's go do this stupid thing," and I can say, "I've already been there, done that, paid bail. You go on."
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il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
December 03 2009 04:32 GMT
#68
I want to get married now! :D
killercheebo
Profile Joined November 2009
Korea (North)46 Posts
December 03 2009 04:59 GMT
#69
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Involuntary_celibacy
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lazz
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia3119 Posts
December 03 2009 05:09 GMT
#70

Characteristics of quarter-life crisis may include[citation needed]:

Realizing the pursuits of ones peers are useless
Confronting their own mortality
Watching time slowly take its toll on their parents, only to realize they are next
insecurity regarding the fact that their actions are meaningless
insecurity concerning ability to love themselves, let alone another person
insecurity regarding present accomplishments
re-evaluation of close interpersonal relationships
lack of friendships or romantic relationships, sexual frustration, and involuntary celibacy
disappointment with one's job
nostalgia for university, college, high school or elementary school life
tendency to hold stronger opinions
boredom with social interactions
loss of closeness to high school and college friends
financially-rooted stress (overwhelming college loans, unanticipatedly high cost of living, etc.)
loneliness, depression and suicide
desire to have children
a sense that everyone is, somehow, doing better than you
frustration with social ills



Sounds like average human existence to me.
liosama
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Australia843 Posts
December 03 2009 05:32 GMT
#71
This is why I recommend http://www.teach12.com/ to undergrads with nothing else to do with their time.

Extremely good primers into a variety of fields. Have students learn more, engage into arguments about different problems not related at all to their major all over getting trashed or waste time playing poker or whatever undergrads are stereotyped doing.

Note I say primer here in every single of the term, I don't expect one dvd viewing to be the all and end all, one must read after all
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lvatural
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States347 Posts
December 03 2009 05:55 GMT
#72
On December 03 2009 13:11 ShaperofDreams wrote:
I'm going through a quarter life crisis type thing right now, even though I'm only 19. I realize that nothing we do really matters.. and that most of the people I am supposed to model myself after I don't want to be. I think that I've trudged through this and I'm gonna start doing what I want to.


Nothing we do really matters? How did you come to this conclusion? Because we all eventually die? Because we're such a small part of the universe? If your answer is something along these lines, then you should think think about this a bit more...

You're not supposed to 'copy' other people. It's about understanding and learning the rationale behind a person's actions. Take what you like and disregard what you disagree with to eventually create your own individual stance on how to live your own life.


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perfectteeth
Profile Joined November 2009
United States30 Posts
December 03 2009 06:08 GMT
#73
hard to believe, but this is a really good article. REALLY good.
ShaperofDreams
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2492 Posts
December 03 2009 06:14 GMT
#74
On December 03 2009 14:32 liosama wrote:
This is why I recommend http://www.teach12.com/ to undergrads with nothing else to do with their time.

Extremely good primers into a variety of fields. Have students learn more, engage into arguments about different problems not related at all to their major all over getting trashed or waste time playing poker or whatever undergrads are stereotyped doing.

Note I say primer here in every single of the term, I don't expect one dvd viewing to be the all and end all, one must read after all


omg i wish i had money to pay for that stuff
Bitches don't know about my overlord. FUCK OFF ALDARIS I HAVE ENOUGH PYLONS. My Balls are as smooth as Eggs.
d3_crescentia
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4054 Posts
December 03 2009 06:16 GMT
#75
I think a lot of people are confusing social development with sociability, and part of social development and maturity is acknowledging and embracing the responsibility you have to yourself and to the other people around you.

Personal story: a few of my friends decided to hold a party last year, which ended up breaking the floor into their basement. Rather than man up and pay the bill (yeah, it'd be a shitty thing to do) they found however many excuses and made up some story about moving furniture. They lucked out with a pretty chill landlord (likely there was something ALREADY wrong with the floor), but the irresponsibility bothered me.

Another one: I've seen time and time again in college that when people take on the small responsibilities (i.e. running a student organization, planning events) that people tend to fuck themselves up big time. They're a bit more socially responsible than their peers, which is why they're nominated for the role in the first place, but they end up killing themselves trying to make everyone happy, and they start to antagonize everyone because they haven't developed the maturity to conduct themselves in a leadership position. This has happened to me.
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baal
Profile Joined March 2003
10541 Posts
December 03 2009 06:48 GMT
#76
people who dont drink in college are nto more social at all, they are usually awkward outcasts.


I disagree with this theory in almost everything, its just conservative propaganda of some square headed asshat yearning for the old days.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-03 06:56:38
December 03 2009 06:56 GMT
#77
On December 03 2009 15:14 ShaperofDreams wrote:
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On December 03 2009 14:32 liosama wrote:
This is why I recommend http://www.teach12.com/ to undergrads with nothing else to do with their time.

Extremely good primers into a variety of fields. Have students learn more, engage into arguments about different problems not related at all to their major all over getting trashed or waste time playing poker or whatever undergrads are stereotyped doing.

Note I say primer here in every single of the term, I don't expect one dvd viewing to be the all and end all, one must read after all


omg i wish i had money to pay for that stuff

Yeah, that doesn't generally fall within a college student's budget...

Of course, the idea is sound, and there are certainly more affordable options for the same kind of learning.
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StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
December 03 2009 07:01 GMT
#78
4 year College is the new HS degree, :/ ;;
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leomon
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada169 Posts
December 03 2009 07:06 GMT
#79
Great read actually, althou I don't really agree with it.
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Ganfei
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Taiwan1439 Posts
December 03 2009 07:32 GMT
#80
On December 03 2009 15:48 baal wrote:
people who dont drink in college are nto more social at all, they are usually awkward outcasts.


I disagree with this theory in almost everything, its just conservative propaganda of some square headed asshat yearning for the old days.


Yeah there's a big fucking surprise, Baal disagrees with something.
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