EPTFriend wants to commit suicide, what to do? - Page 2
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bellweather
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Mortality
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InToTheWannaB
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meeple
Canada10211 Posts
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Motiva
United States1774 Posts
I would recommend maybe waiting a few days before attempting to hospitalize her. Firstly because it can help show her that you really are there for her, and your not just trying to unload her. Secondly because those places can only help her as much as she's willing to be helped. A lot of people get stuck like this because they didn't think they needed help in the first place... I'm not necessarily saying these are the case, but the brain thinks in terrible ways when it's down like that. +1 to what Railpx said though GL | ||
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MMAspec
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Gliche
United States811 Posts
It seems like you are the last strand of hope she's clinging onto in this world. She may be wanting you to stop her from doing it, to see if someone cares enough about her to do so. Don't be afraid to speak up for her or decide things for her, but also don't dismiss what she says. Listen to what she tells you and what she may not be telling you. There will be resistance and probably some hate thrown your way, but don't ever leave her alone. I wish you luck in keeping your friend alive. edit: after reading some responses - ok i guess you have to make a judgment call depending on how serious it is to decide on whether to go to the hospital or not. However, I'd personally just go with the safer route and stay with her AT the hospital, since you're not professionally trained to make these judgments. If they say you're not allowed to stay or some dumb bullshit like that, you have to insist on staying for you're friend's sake. | ||
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Fixed
United States174 Posts
Also usually the people that kill themselves dont talk about it all day every day. The ones that want attention are usually the ones crazy enough to put the blame and burden on someone/something else. The people who really need to be watched out for are the quite ones. They keep it to themselves until they are dead  I would still get her to a hospital asap just to be safe. | ||
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Chunkybuddha
Canada347 Posts
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thestool91
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first of all, im really glad that you posted this forum. i believe that teamliquid members are always willing to help, even if it is not about starcraft i had a female friend also who was going through severe depression and was on the suicide path. you gotta tell her that life always has ups and downs. i think that what she needs, (well at least what my female friend needed) was someone to talk to, someone to whom she coudl release all her anger and thoughts to. basically, someone who she could confide in and someone who she could trust. when she gets to release all these feelings, she will feel better for sure. but its up to u to make sure you are always there for her and that life is something to not just give up on. its so precious | ||
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EvilTeletubby
Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
On November 14 2009 15:13 Fixed wrote: Nobody on this site is in any position to give any kind of real advice about suicide. And then this (demonstrating you have no experience on the topic): Also your friend needs to learn there is my to life than big houses and money. I mean come on, seriously? She got herself in debt and should realize she did it to herself. Live and learn. She also committed crimes in doing so. How can anyone feel sorry for her? ...is counter productive. I don't think you even realize what someone like that is going through, and bringing up the things you mention would drive her further to suicide. | ||
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blue_arrow
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Licmyobelisk
Philippines3682 Posts
The advices here are very sound, I dunno why some are fucking skeptical Ohhh someone cleared it out for me: On November 14 2009 14:55 Mortality wrote: Something important to note about anti-depressants: they can actually make your depression worse under certain biological conditions. You need to get her to a doctor ASAP. Be there for her and help her through this mess. | ||
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Fixed
United States174 Posts
On November 14 2009 15:40 EvilTeletubby wrote: Saying this (which I can guarantee is wrong): And then this (clearly demonstrating you have no experience on the topic whatsoever): ...is counter productive. I don't think you even realize what someone like that is going through, and bringing up the things you mention would drive her further to suicide. Dude clearly i would never tell that to a person that shows signs of wanting to kill herself. Seriously? I'm just saying she put herself in the position she is in now. And after she hopefully gets through this situation, and has been treated she will learn that there is more to life than the stuff that the OP mentioned she was depressed over. First and foremost she needs to be treated by a professional....which i dont think could be done over the interwebs even if TL had a qualified person. edit: and with such a serious topic of suicide i really think the OP should get her to a hospital asap instead of asking starcraft people for help. This isnt a how do i stop 5 hatch hydra...this is suicide | ||
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ilj.psa
Peru3081 Posts
tell her that it would be easier to help solve her problems talking to a doctor since they are train to handle those problems really think that is important that you repeat that you are concerned and that you will always be there for her no matter what. it will give her a sense that she will never be alone and believe it or not will take away a lot of stress off her. | ||
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EvilTeletubby
Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
On November 14 2009 15:43 Fixed wrote: Dude clearly i would never tell that to a person that shows signs of wanting to kill herself. Seriously? Yeah, but why even say that in the thread? which i dont think could be done over the interwebs even if TL had a qualified person. While I agree with that, your original statement was: "Nobody on this site is in any position to give any kind of real advice about suicide." Which is going to be pretty far from the truth IMO, I'm sure there are plenty of people here with personal experience who can give recommendations/suggestions to the OP. That's all he's looking for. | ||
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overpool
United States191 Posts
On November 14 2009 15:44 ilj.psa wrote: Just talk to her for an hour to really dig deep into all her problems, also make her feel comfortable and that you are really interested / concerned for her life. tell her that it would be easier to help solve her problems talking to a doctor since they are train to handle those problems really think that is important that you repeat that you are concerned and that you will always be there for her no matter what. it will give her a sense that she will never be alone and believe it or not will take away a lot of stress off her. I like this advice...seems like it would less stressful than immediately hauling her to an institution against her will. On November 14 2009 15:13 Fixed wrote: Also usually the people that kill themselves dont talk about it all day every day... The people who really need to be watched out for are the quite ones. They keep it to themselves until they are dead A common misconception; >3/4 of people who commit suicide confide in someone beforehand. | ||
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Descent
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If the situation is prolonged, it'll likely take some sort of toll on you as well if it hasn't already, so try to stay alert and optimistic. Keep your chin up, and hopefully you can turn her around for the better. Good luck~ | ||
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Fixed
United States174 Posts
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phyren
United States1067 Posts
In retrospect, I think the best thing you can do in such a situation is try to be there and provide constant reassurance that there are things worth being around for; perhaps even specific small things to stall for time rather than trying to change her entire viewpoint by going for abstract reasons why suicide should never be contemplated. Trying to involve other friends, family, or professionals is also helpful whenever possible. Lastly, it is important to remember that there is only so much you can do, and you should focus on doing everything within your power to help rather than the concrete results which may be out of your control. | ||
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