Oh and if it comes down to really talking to her at the hospital, do make physical contact i.e. hold her hand while you talk. I keep on emphasizing the concept of belonging to this world and holding someone's hand is like #1, I think. (That's what they told me when I volunteered at a hospitalized senior care home)

I'm not sure if artofmagic's video is directly relevant to the OP, but it really is inspirational, and I enjoyed it very much. + Show Spoiler +

The last bit was so sad T_T I actually felt tears gushing to my eyes.

wok

United States504 Posts

November 14 2009 07:14 GMT

#42

Show her that life is beautiful

Buy her some flowers and bake her a cake. (A starcraft cake of course).

This won't solve her problems by a long shot, but would probably still be a nice thing to do.

Sfydjklm

United States9218 Posts

November 14 2009 07:19 GMT

#43

well what can you do. Life is horrible and you're not gonna fool a person in a state like this with cliche life is worth living crap.

All you can do really is assure her that you will be there for her to see her through this.

Also you need to remind her that there is a shade of gray between being happy and dying. Now she doesnt have anything to lose, now she is free. She can do anything she wants. Make a porn movie. Rob a bank. Up and move to europe, asia, wherever.

But what do i know. What do we know. We don't even know what state she is in. Maybe at this point it's no longer despair but panic.

Kennelie

United States2296 Posts

November 14 2009 07:19 GMT

#44

wtf live stream this shit......TL would own the internet again with this.

User was warned for this post.

Edit: How come I never know what mod fuckin warns me....fuckin bullshit.
Edit: N/M I'm too slow to notice who it is.

Mod Edit: Good job!

Edit: Dick..............................

D10

Brazil3409 Posts

November 14 2009 07:19 GMT

#45

I dont know the whole picture, but make sure of 2 things

1 - Make sure to make the point that suiciding to make others feel bad is pointless, and eventually you will be forgotten, much better to live your life and find people who care about you.

2 - Show you are one of those people and that her absence in such a way will make you feel more than just bad, try to make her understand that quitting life wont make her quit the misery of her condition, and that only by persisting in her current situation things will get better, and things WILL get better, life is not static, and its mathematically impossible that better days wont come.

Ive seen tons of cases like these, and in 99% of them things get better when the person doesnt quit life.

Spt.Worked

Canada48 Posts

November 14 2009 07:21 GMT

#46

--- Nuked ---

OpticalShot

Canada6330 Posts

November 14 2009 07:23 GMT

#47

Shouldn't Spt.Worked be banned from post he made on the WCG-Day4 thread anyway? Well the post above is sure going to earn one.

kidd

United States2848 Posts

November 14 2009 07:23 GMT

#48

From experience the best thing to do is to be there for her and to never try to understand what she is going through. Trust me, the worst you can say to someone in that mindset is that what they are going through isn't that bad and that you know how they feel. Instead just to be there for them and treat their problems as something very serious. Also subtly imply that they should seek professional help for their problems but depending on the person the intensity of the persuassion is purely situational.

Kennelie

United States2296 Posts

November 14 2009 07:27 GMT

#49

okay that was a ruder comment than mine spt.worked.....WTF ban!

How long has she been on benzo's? I am sure if she is receiving valium she is probably also inducing other benzos or maybe other ugly drugs that might be interfering with her judgement along with her moral thoughts. Gosh this is bad. Get her off the drugs asap if she is dependent on them.

TheAntZ

Israel6248 Posts

November 14 2009 07:34 GMT

#50

This thread is like ban bait for idiots who like to look tough on the internet. @OP I've had a female friend once who wanted to commit suicide, the issues she had were definitely not as distressing as your friends, but I let her stay at my place for a while till she felt she could get her life back on track. This wasnt long mind you just 1 week or so. Dont know if this helps, but generally just always be there showing that you care, and that you'd be severely pissed if she gave up and killed herself

Kennelie

United States2296 Posts

November 14 2009 07:42 GMT

#51

This thread is like ban bait for idiots who like to look tough on the internet

wtf are you talking about? I think most of the bans and what not in this thread are more in the manner of trying to be stupid and funny than helping.

I wish I could help more but tell u the truth nobody in their right mind has much help unless they are some type of suicidal shrink.

Edit: God I hate being drunk and on TL.

writer22816

United States5775 Posts

November 14 2009 07:44 GMT

#52

seek professional help

Forgottenfrog

United States1268 Posts

November 14 2009 07:46 GMT

#53

Weed, that'll make her feel better and fall asleep.

All jokes aside, definitely keep an eye on her. Maybe you should call the suicide hotline and ask them for some technique you can use on her so she doesnt feel like your forcing her to call the hotline or dragging her to the hospital.

starfries

Canada3508 Posts

November 14 2009 07:47 GMT

#54

Lack of sleep is actually a serious problem. Not sleeping enough can make you do shit that you really don't want to. You know how good you feel after a good nights sleep? It actually makes a huge difference.
It doesn't sound like much but I know sleep deprivation can make you want to kill people or kill yourself if you're not completely stable to begin with (I took a psychology class on sleep deprivation). Do your best to get her to sleep more.. tell her to write down what problems she has and what solution she can do about them (nothing is unsolvable). This helps a ton and will relieve a lot of stress letting her sleep without waking up in a panic about her situation. Keeping a regular routine will help and adds purpose to your life. And companionship will help a lot, so please stay by her side.

ktp

United States797 Posts

November 14 2009 07:48 GMT

#55

If she is able to meet with a psychiatrist, she should consider either changing medication or getting off the medication completely. It sounds like her old doctor gave her the wrong type of medication, and it is hindering her instead of helping.

Kwidowmaker

Canada978 Posts

November 14 2009 07:50 GMT

#56

Serious response: why doesn't she do Red Cross work in Africa?

Squeegy

Finland1166 Posts

November 14 2009 07:55 GMT

#57

The good news is that there's a clear cause for her feeling suicidal. I think you need to convince her that life does not end with her debts and house going under. Easier said than done, yes, but make her see a psychiatrist and possibly go to a psych ward. And be understanding and supportive. Pretty much, be there for her. The bad news is that when the cause is very powerful, then, I think, they're the most likely to do it. But as long as the cause is clear, there's a way to fix things. The ones who are depressed without any particular reason, however, are the ones that will jump down a bridge after a while. And sometimes, I'm afraid, suicide is a solution. (But you better not try.)

jfazz

Australia672 Posts

November 14 2009 07:57 GMT

#58

I just want to go in a slightly different line, as I don't really feel I can add to what has been said by everyone else.

What exactly has she done wrong legally? You may be surprised how much you can do to help that situation - legal systems are usually quite understanding, especially for someone in your friends position. Im only well informed on australian law (LLB, LLM), but I am sure someone here could offer some more accurate advice as to her position. Otherwise hit me up, ill help where I can.

mmgoose

769 Posts

November 14 2009 08:00 GMT

#59

meth, seriously.

at least she'll have a reason to live.

addiction.

User was temp banned for this post.

MeyvN

Afghanistan4 Posts

November 14 2009 08:03 GMT

#60

There is such things as Unemployment and Welfare..............

These saftey nets were created for a reason it cant be that bad.

Tell her to smoke some weed and relax or Check her ass into the hospital ASAP