Friend wants to commit suicide, what to do? - Page 7

On November 15 2009 00:53 thedeadhaji wrote:
ugh i wish I had something to offer, but I'm not even going to pretend I do .

I wish you both the best. It's all I can do

On November 15 2009 03:36 keV. wrote:
What the fuck are you doing in posting this on an internet forum?

A handful of internet sympathy and an armchair diagnosis won't do anything to keep your friend from killing herself. Act, and act properly.

When shit like this ends up on an internet forum it is impossible to take seriously. Call a fucking doctor. Jesus.

Why should anyone believe you when you claim you want 'serious' help all the while cracking Heath Ledger jokes. Anyone who makes a joke in poor taste has been banned, and the OP is making OD jokes.

This thread is a joke.

On November 15 2009 03:55 Cloud wrote:


So he is looking for sympathy, shoot him.

On November 15 2009 02:32 Tower82 wrote:
Your friend does have a few legal options to resolve her T4 goverment tax return problems.

She can look into the volunteer disclosure program(VDP) which allows you to volunteer correct information when you previously lied on your tax return. If this route is taken she must be willing to pay any taxes that will be owing with applicable interest and penalties.

You may ask why do that when you'll have to pay. The main reason is that if you do they will then not charge you criminally for fraud and just accept your correct information and expect payment. If there is a large amount owing and she is unable to pay, she may be able to work some payment plan with the CRA(government). You'd be surprised how much they are willing to work with you.

to do this right she should talk to an accountant or lawyer who can fill out and send in the application in on her behalf so there is no chance of the CRA finding out who she is before a deal is made.

if there is no chance of her having the funds to pay due to the other debts, she should be considering bankruptcy. the best route would be to go under the VDP and then claim bankruptcy so that tax debt will be wiped clear along with her other debts.

One thing you should be aware of is that student debt will survive the bankruptcy process so if her other debts are student debts nothing will help there expect hard work.

I hope she is willing to stick through this and live a long fulfilling life, b/c most ppl at some point have lost all hope and its only at our worst moment that we realize what we are made of and who our true friends are.

On November 15 2009 04:05 Tien wrote:
Thanks for the advice.


She frauded her notice of assessments. Her actual notice of assessments claim she declared only ~20K a year in income.


The one she made up to show to the bank claimed she made 250 000$.


Should she still go ahead and with the VDP, try and actually report 250 000$, find out how much she owes the government in taxes, and then file bankruptcy?

On November 15 2009 04:05 keV. wrote:


People looking for sympathy on the internet deserve the comments "let her do it..." etc.

On November 14 2009 14:30 OpticalShot wrote:
I'm no psychological specialist, but I think your friend needs to:
1) accept the fact (she should have already, actually) that theres nobody else to blame except herself for the situation she's in. The more people she can blame her misery to, the more hatred grows and the farther away from the world she gets.
2) find a reason to live. This is hard - it could be love (probably the best motive and the hardest to "make one up"), some sort of a legacy, hobbies (strong ones), personal goals, power and fame, whatever.

I think it'll be best of you to simply spend time with her and keep her feel like she's part of the world. Often suicides occur because the person feels alone, isolated, unloved and uncared. She needs to know that, many times and often, and make sure she gets it. This is different from trying to convince her it's not so bad because if a person's contemplating suicide, it's very likely that her only voice of reason is her own and nobody else's. That's why it's important to constantly show she's not alone - her voice of reason might start listening to yours, and others.

All the best for your friend (and yourself too).

On November 15 2009 05:01 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
When people actually want to die, they just off themselves without much delay.

But this kind of shit happened to me before. My old best friend would say she was going to commit suicide quite often. She had plans and everything, was into self-harm, etc.

Anyway, the truth is, that dumb bitch just wanted attention. You don't tell people you're going to commit suicide without obviously wanting someone to swoop down and save you like some kind of bad fantasy. I "saved" her a few times, but it was obvious she was never going to do it! All her plans had loopholes, or would fail, because she always gave herself room to wiggle out of the situation, because she wasn't interested in actually dying, she just wanted people to actually care.

And dude, if a girl actually wants you to help her, IT'S A FUCKING CRY FOR ATTENTION. She doesn't want to die. She just wants to watch you squirm because she's desperate for someone to show they care about her. She's probably gotten way more attention from you now that she's "suicidal" right? I know you think she's your friend, but to do this, she's a horrible friend who just wants to make other people miserable to boost her esteem briefly. And now you're fucked because if she ever had the resolve to just get it over with, you'd think oh I could have prevented this, and her legacy to the would would've been, "You should have showered me with love when you had the chance." Fuck that shit, and fuck this girl. Desperate for love, desperate to spread her misery. Don't be a slave to her fabricated emotions.

On November 15 2009 04:00 DreaM)XeRO wrote:
"suicide is the wrong answer to a temporary problem"

> <;; try and convince her that death IS NOT the only option
i clearly cant imagine her situation but try and convince her that there is a light at the end of the tunnel