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On November 09 2009 04:56 Kyuki wrote: Q: Your site says 50+100$, and I've been trying to figure out what this "+100$" is, and how you actually get it?
It is an additional bonus we give on certain poker rooms and depending on the poker room there are different requirements which need to be met. Please also keep in mind we do not offer it on all poker rooms. More information can be found in the download instructions of the respective poker room http://www.pokerstrategy.com/quiz/platform/
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So people in the US can't even register on the site? Or can we register but just not get the money and stuff.
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Unfortunately we do not take any sign ups from the US either.
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Definitely joining, sadly don't have the time I'd like to have for poker but I'll still play.
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Talk shit about Canada now Bitchezzzz
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How about if i drive 20 minutes across the border to canada and sign up? ![](/mirror/smilies/smile.gif)
Sucks can't take advantage of this from the U.S. I'll check out the articles still though.
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Baltimore, USA22242 Posts
Yeah - Shame about the US limitation. I'm really trying to get into poker more so I will definitely be reading the articles, but meh... stupid laws...
But, regardless, you guys rock. I always knew Strafe would do something useful some day! <3
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rooooooooooofl i misread the title as "pokemon strategy Q&A".. was super confused for a few minutes ahahaha
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Germany187 Posts
On November 09 2009 04:10 Etherone wrote: @xantos the core of what i want to know is do you have a guide or method made specifically to make that transition from short stack to deep stack play easier. Specific article on this issue, along with an instructional video: http://www.pokerstrategy.com/strategy/no-limit/614/
also another question. on average how many hours would you expect it would take to clear the bonus at PP playing .. say 4 tables? I cannot give you exact numbers right now, but with 4 tables, it should be easy doable within the period. With 1 tabling, you probably need to continuously play for 1-2 h / day, but that's what you should anyways in the first time (on average) to get some basic training/experience alongside the educational stuff.
On November 09 2009 04:56 Kyuki wrote: Q: Your site says 50+100$, and I've been trying to figure out what this "+100$" is, and how you actually get it? The "+$100" is a little misleading (that's why we currently remove it from the site), as it is not available on all the poker rooms.
But: on all poker rooms you've got the best bonus system/rakeback that's allowed on top, e.g. 27% rakeback on Full Tilt + rake race etc.pp.
@US issue: This situation is absolutely bad. I'm really sorry for not being able to accept them, because I hate disappointing anyone with our website / offers.
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South Africa4316 Posts
Sorry, as a complete beginner to this, can you maybe explain exactly how rake and rakeback works? I read on wikipedia a bit about rake, in that it is a percentage of each pot that the poker room takes, but how large is this percentage on average, and how does rakeback work?
That said, I've signed up now. My exams end in 10 days, and then I'll have months of free time to learn poker a bit better
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Germany187 Posts
Hey Daigomi,
About Rake Yes, the poker room takes a share of each pot in cash game. It varies by limit & poker room, but 3-5% is a rule of thumb. On micro stakes, the rake is higher, but the players are also worse.
Beating the Rake To make a profit on playing, you do not just need to beat the other players, but you need to beat them by such a margin you're also profitable after rake. Compare that to having not just 51% winrate at ICCup, but 55%+. As tournament rake is easiest to understand, I give you an example on it: Let's take $1+.20 Sit'n'Goes on some poker room. 10 people pay $1.20, and the prize pool is $10, the poker room earns $2. If you would now have random placements as your results, you would in average lose 20 cents per tourney. But as you play better & try to improve, you will in average win maybe 5 or 10. On higher limits, the rake is much lower (on ultra high stakes, even neglegible), but the opponents are tougher.
What's the Rake used for? Most importantly: do big marketing so that there are enough casual players around that you can win against ![](/mirror/smilies/wink.gif)
Rakeback Rakeback is a scheme that gives you a certain amount of your rake back on a monthly/weekly or some other basis. It can be either very simple, such as on Full Tilt Poker you get 27% back (also through us ), but it also can be more complicated. In the more complicated cases, It's mostly not called 'rakeback' but 'bonus scheme' or 'VIP system', but in essence it's the same: depending on your playing volume, you get money form the poker room back, which helps building your bankroll.
But be cautious not to overvalue the relevance of rakeback. Stupid example: the poker room could double the rakeback and give you 50% rakeback instead of 0%. Makes a difference for you? Not really.
Many players are too focused on rakeback & bonuses - and in the course, they forget that in the end, it is just their skill edge that gives them winnings. Of course rakeback is an important factor - but it's definately not like in any case a poker room with 40% rakeback is better than a poker room with 20% rakeback.
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I know this has been asked like four times already, but I'd like to know more about the exclusion of the US. Is there anyone who can provide more information about the US legislation concerning this?
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First of all, thanks for doing this for us and the SC community.
I also have a question:
I signed up on PokerStrategy.com like 10 years ago and I don't even remember my username/password. I assume I'm not allowed to sign up with a new account, am I? Because I really enjoyed the articles from what I can remember.
Oh and this goes to Robje:
When are we going to dagon things to oblivion again, man? You so busy :D
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Germany187 Posts
@PH: US legislation on the matters are quite complex. The UIGEA is federal I guess, but does only attack payment providers - so players won't have an issue with that. Also state law does not really afflict you as a a player. So basically you can play on the poker rooms that operate on the US without doing something illegal - the question is rather: do these poker rooms do something illegal or not?
All public listed poker rooms got out of the US, such as PartyPoker, iPoker network, 888 etc. - they all do not accept US customers. Still, the US it the biggest market for online poker.
It's a question on how your lawyers advise you. We prefer to stay in the white zone - the poker rooms that operate in the US seem to be okay with the grey zone.
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On November 09 2009 00:10 Xantos wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2009 23:50 Stormer wrote: Do I need to make a new account on the poker site if I register to your site or can I just use my existing one for tracking? In order to gather StrategyPoints & gain access to higher status content & services, you need to create a new account through us - either by getting our $50 offer or by using a self-deposit bonus if you're already an experienced poker player. just thought i'd get a bit more clarification on this. so if i have an account on pokerstars already, its fine if i create another account via your site?
and this is probably more related to the individual poker room/site, but if i were to make another account on pokerstars, will i be able to transfer my current munny to the new account without too much hassle? (ie, will they do ip or identity checks/whatnot to make sure that i'm not some scammer. or maybe they wouldn't be too happy with having to give your site rake now when i was already an existing customer?)
look forward to learning more about poker!
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Germany187 Posts
Hey pangshai,
if you already have an account at PokerStars, you will not be able to 'retrack' this account to PokerStrategy.com in order to gather StrategyPoints.
You would have to open a new account on some other poker room through PokerStrategy.com to do that.
PokerStars and other poker rooms do not allow opening up a second account, and I would also not advise to do that 'hidden' - it's against the PokerStars T&C and you risk both your accounts & bankroll with it.
Lutz
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so i once took that 50 bonus like 2 years ago, anyway to get a new one if the old one aint cleared?
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4492 Posts
On November 09 2009 19:09 pangshai wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2009 00:10 Xantos wrote:On November 08 2009 23:50 Stormer wrote: Do I need to make a new account on the poker site if I register to your site or can I just use my existing one for tracking? In order to gather StrategyPoints & gain access to higher status content & services, you need to create a new account through us - either by getting our $50 offer or by using a self-deposit bonus if you're already an experienced poker player. just thought i'd get a bit more clarification on this. so if i have an account on pokerstars already, its fine if i create another account via your site? and this is probably more related to the individual poker room/site, but if i were to make another account on pokerstars, will i be able to transfer my current munny to the new account without too much hassle? (ie, will they do ip or identity checks/whatnot to make sure that i'm not some scammer. or maybe they wouldn't be too happy with having to give your site rake now when i was already an existing customer?) look forward to learning more about poker!
Exactly, they would not be interested in paying us for a customer they already have, thus signing up again on the same poker room (that you already have an account on) is unfortunately not possible. You are however free to take the starting capital or the starting deposit bonus offer on another site that we support.
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ah k. also just wondering, is there a certain minimum activity on the tracked account that you require? what's stopping people from just getting the 50$, withdrawing it and not playing anymore?
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4492 Posts
On November 09 2009 19:21 pangshai wrote: ah k. also just wondering, is there a certain minimum activity on the tracked account that you require? what's stopping people from just getting the 50$, withdrawing it and not playing anymore?
Yes, in order to acquire the right to cash-out the $50, you will have to earn a certain amount of points within a certain amount of time on the room you play. For example, the requirements for the $50 on the site Partypoker would be as follows:
All you have to do is earn 300 PartyPoints* within 90 days and the $50 are all yours. If you fail to earn the 300 PartyPoints in the allotted time, you will lose the $50 bonus, but you can keep what you have won.
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