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Germany187 Posts
Hey,
On November 09 2009 00:52 Etherone wrote:
quiz took 5 minutes reading the guide took 10-15 i did not need to scan my passport but i take it this is not always the case, but i had a previous rudimentary knowledge of poker and it's terms.
i signed up about 6-7 hours ago and my account has now been credited with the $50, well $53 CAD lol exchange rates ftw.
uh that's quick 
I read the short staking strat, to sum it up be a nit. an EPIC nit, both in bank roll management and ranges with a heavy raise button. basically it capitalizes on thee simple fact that in micros people somehow get it into their heads that you might be pushing all in with k 4 simply to push them around
Yep. In the beginning, it is important to maximise the survival rate of the beginner while still him having an edge over the other players.
This is so important as we do not want the average guy needing to deposit own money. The goal is to use those $50 to build your entire bankroll - and that worked quite well for a lot of people (esp. German StarCraft players are overrepresented in our must successful member group  ).
But starting with Fixed Limit / SNGs is also possible - and there, the starting strategies are not as defensive.
one thing I'd like to ask PS guys though; seeing as SSS is simply a structured way that gets people in the game to see hands whilst building a BR. do you guys have a quality method on segueing out of that mentality( short stacker) easily into a deep stack cash game mentality seeing as this is more profitable ( for a competent player) specially at higher stakes?
I hope I get your question right, if not, please help
Well, of course it is never too easy to switch strategies. But as our players learn to play the SSS for a specific reason, most of them that are motivated also see that the strategy is just a vehicle to reach your goals. Many even see switching to big stack as a goal on NL25 that motivates them while playing NL10 SSS.
We will also introduce a Big Stack Beginner Strategy soon - we already tested it in the German community and it seems to work quite well not only in theory, but also in practice for the beginner limits.
On November 09 2009 00:49 Sfydjklm wrote:
What exactly does Mynock do?
How come i never knew we share same first name?
Mynock is currently taking care for our newly launched Japanese Community.
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Germany187 Posts
On November 09 2009 00:59 Etherone wrote:
^ can't you just not use IP tracking to each account and ban repeat accounts, similar to what TL does (on occasion)?
We also use IP tracking, cookie tracking etc.pp. - and that works to fend of a lot of people that just went broke on NL50 in 2 hands and want to get a second shot.
But for the professional fraudsters, you need more sophisticated methods - they would probably laugh about IP tracking only.
oh and they have a video with a sexy British accent as an alternative to reading the article, although through reading it you have little mini quiz sections which will help crystallize the information.
I will pass the compliments to Lisa
And you're right: both reading + viewing the video are complementary to each other & improve the learning curve.
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Belgium9949 Posts
If I sign up using one deal (for example free 50 bucks), and you have a rakeback deal on that website later on, is it possible to switch deals?
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Since you seem to be so keen about reaching out to newcomers, could you elaborate on what the terms "tracking" and "tracked account" actually mean?
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United States2484 Posts
Apparently 37% of Teamliquid is American. (I got this from the thread where Google gives you information about websites). The fact that despite this you are willing to sponsor the TSL2 warms my heart.
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On November 09 2009 01:47 RaGe wrote:
If I sign up using one deal (for example free 50 bucks), and you have a rakeback deal on that website later on, is it possible to switch deals?
I am not entirely sure what you mean. The free $50 we offer is not a deal. You should consider it your starting capital. With this money you can learn how to play without a risk. Receiving this will never mean that you don't get the best deal out there, i.e. rakeback.
We offer the maximum rakeback on each affiliate regardless. And we even top it off with free content and lots of bonuses.
If you choose to play on room A, you can always later play on room B. As long as you create your accounts through our website.
Does that answer your question?
On November 09 2009 01:58 538 wrote:
Since you seem to be so keen about reaching out to newcomers, could you elaborate on what the terms "tracking" and "tracked account" actually mean?
Having a tracked account is the following: We are an affiliate site. This means that we refer players to rooms where you can play poker. As a return for bringing the poker room traffic, we receive a share of the rake that you and everyone else pays.
Tracking means that the poker room can see it was us that referred you. As soon as it's established that you are a referred player from PokerStrategy.com, you have a tracked account.
Hope that clears things up a bit for you.
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Germany187 Posts
On November 09 2009 01:47 RaGe wrote:
If I sign up using one deal (for example free 50 bucks), and you have a rakeback deal on that website later on, is it possible to switch deals?
With a $50 account, you have the same advantages like with other accounts.
At most poker rooms, you even still have the first deposit bonus besides your free $50.
This means: if there is legal rakeback at a poker room, we offer it for all accounts, including recipients of the $50.
So you do not need to switch deals, but always get the full benefit. It is one of our most important principles that you must never regret having tracked yourself on PokerStrategy.com.
On November 09 2009 01:58 538 wrote:
Since you seem to be so keen about reaching out to newcomers, could you elaborate on what the terms "tracking" and "tracked account" actually mean?
Of course!
Tracking means that - by clicking on a link on our homepage and/or entering our bonus code at the poker room - you indicate to the poker operator that PokerStrategy.com referred you to them.
In consequence, we get money from the poker operator. Kind of like Google gets money from the sites it delivers traffic to with the AdWords - or Team Liquid gets money for the servers etc. with banners.
In order to get the $50 and use all other offers on PokerStrategy.com, you need to create an account on one of our partner poker rooms that is 'tracked' on us. That means that if you e.g. already have a real money account at PokerStars, you will not be able to track yourself on PokerStrategy.com there - as this kind of tracking is lifetime & PokerStars does not want to pay us for a customer they already have.
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Q: Why is it forbidden for United States users to just take your training course? I thought that online gambling with money held in America was the problem, not poker sites in general?
Q: Judging from your answer to InControl, you don't accept US users... Is it possible to have an account created by someone outside the US and played by a US player? Hypothetically speaking of course (:
Q: Are there any age requirements?
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Germany187 Posts
On November 09 2009 02:53 fanatacist wrote:
Q: Why is it forbidden for United States users to just take your training course? I thought that online gambling with money held in America was the problem, not poker sites in general?
Of course you can read the site and also read through basic articles etc. - but for legal reasons, we do not accept US customers, neither for our free $50 offer nor for self-depositors.
I'd prefer it would be different, too - believe me. But we decided to stay on the 100% white side here.
Q: Judging from your answer to InControl, you don't accept US users... Is it possible to have an account created by someone outside the US and played by a US player? Hypothetically speaking of course (:
If we find out, we must not allow this.
Q: Are there any age requirements?
Yep, you must be 18 to sign-up at PokerStrategy.com. This is the age restriction for most online poker rooms, anyway.
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Alright, thanks (: Sadly I can't join then, and I don't want to put you guys in bad legal territory by circumventing your rules. Good luck with the website and thank you for your sponsorship and active feedback!
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Why exactly don't you allow people from the U.S. to take part in your program for sites that do allow U.S. citizens like Cake, Stars or Full Tilt?
Is this because you're afraid of the laws changing/and/or other inconveniences?
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Germany187 Posts
Well, being the biggest poker affiliate world-wide, we're not exactly under the radar
We just want to stay 100% clean & so we follow legal advice. I'm not a lawyer myself so I've a hard time unfolding the details for you.
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Are you allowed to withdraw the 50 dollar starting money ? Or do you have to get some kinds of VIP points to set it free ?
Already got a PS account so i intent to open a fulltilt account. I know with pokerstars you have to free the bonus by earing enough FPP's. Basicly im wondering how long youre stuck with the site before you can withdraw.
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actually never mind  i've read the conditions on the forum. I dont think i will bothering with the 50 dollar. ive been playing PS for about half a year and have only collected 300 points. i will never clear the bonus fast enough without it being removed.
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Germany187 Posts
Very few people actually have problems clearing the bonus, I think. But of course it is possible that you belong to the very few
Btw. winnings would not be removed, even if you miss the bonus conditions.
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Yeah, but im kidna used to PS now and i'll just go on there for now. If i ever start up on another site i will propably use your service.
Also the small stack and going all in would greatly increase your FPP generation since its easier to get FPP's on a table you just joined.
I do like playing small stack. I however feel that the small stack strategy isnt a good way to start playing. i think every hand should be played based upon the situation. I dont believe just mindlesly following a guide to play hands is a good basic to teach.
however it is most likely quite profitable, you should not stick with it for the long run.
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Germany187 Posts
Of course you should not stick with it in the long run - and even the few that continue to play some type of short stack strategy on higher limits need to learn & improve and make educated decisions based on opponents etc.
But as a beginner, it's important that you learn to play disciplined - and short stack strategy allows you to formulate a simple rule set that on micro limits already is profitable. So you gather your experience and build your bankroll while already playing profitably.
While that, you should of course continue to read advanced materials, discuss your hands in the forum, watch videos etc to improve & start to play more 'thinking'
Imagine like the micro limits are StarCraft in 1998 - teach someone how to make a 3gate zealot build & he will win most of his games, even if he's a newbie.
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the reason you "should" not stick to it in the long run is that at higher limits it is simply more profitable to be a thinking player and that means extracting thin value.
small stacking is very annoying to encounter because it is so effective, and it gives players the opportunity to see a lot of hands and get a feel for what some tendencies are, that they may later exploit without getting them into marginal situations. IMO
@xantos the core of what i want to know is do you have a guide or method made specifically to make that transition from short stack to deep stack play easier.
also another question. on average how many hours would you expect it would take to clear the bonus at PP playing .. say 4 tables?
edit: i should stop writing reply posts and then wandering off only to click post 10 minutes later when the question has been answered lol
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Q: Your site says 50+100$, and I've been trying to figure out what this "+100$" is, and how you actually get it?
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United States4991 Posts
Is the limitation on your site for US people geographically based? For example, someone who lived in the US but is a citizen of some European country is also restricted?
(it looks like that's the case, but just confirming that even if someone could provide ID from another country they wouldn't be allowed )
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