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Etherone
United States1898 Posts
and that was exactly what i was looking for thanks | ||
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Motiva
United States1774 Posts
jkjkjk  I tried to sign up for your site when I first started playing, but can't obviously... Good luck and thanks for TSL2 | ||
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Fen
Australia1848 Posts
I have an account on pokerstars as well, however Ive never deposited any money. I just played in freerolls and play money. A little while back they gave me 2 dollars as a gift and I promptly lost that  Could I make a new account with you guys considering that Im yet to deposit anything on my original account? Or would they still consider that multi-accounting?Also, thanks for sponsering TSL 2, Im really looking forward to it | ||
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KiF1rE
United States964 Posts
On November 09 2009 18:53 PH wrote: I know this has been asked like four times already, but I'd like to know more about the exclusion of the US. Is there anyone who can provide more information about the US legislation concerning this? information is kinda scattered all over the place... theres a few big threads in twoplustwo.com in the poker legislation forums. To sum it up the us government passed a bill called the UIGEA that prohibits banks from dealing transactions with online gambling sites(nothing to do with the legality of playing, just getting money to and from). The sites that support US players jump through hoops using payment processors, while other sites have just stopped accepting US players out of fear and legal troubles to stand up for the game of skill that poker is and clearly say that its a game of skill and theres no more luck involved then golf,bowling,baseball, starcraft,etc... when played properly. The UIGEA goes into full effect on december 1st 2009. on the bright side there are several groups like the PPA and a few politicians trying to change that. Despite it being an uphill battle that is slowly gaining momentum, they are having victories but are still a long ways off. IE a few court victories with the judge ruling that poker is a game of skill and not gambling thus legal by in that area. that about sums it up, without giving to much of a wall of text. hope that helps some of the newer US players understand whats going on without to much reading. http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/57/poker-legislation/uigea-faq-627890/ theres the TLDR version of what the UIGEA does | ||
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PokePill
United States1048 Posts
Yes, I am indeed a poster on the "other site", but I definitely have no "allegiance" to their website and if anything I think the thread Mason Malmuth created was hysterical because all it does is boost your traffic and I don't see why that is even news for the "other site." Anyways: 1) Would you say your site is "unethical?" -You require your users to constantly revisit the site to retake the quiz, when perhaps many are not interested in your content at all but the $100 - $150 promotion. The temp ip restriction demonstrates this. -You omit the fact US players are not allowed, despite being the 10th most popular country visiting your site. -You omit the fact that a $50 bonus requires 500 vpp, which equates to PAYING $240 in rake. $50 is a very small bankroll even with shortstacking. Shortstacking can be high variance. Most players won't be multitabling so they will be grinding for months. -You ruin microstakes poker by mind controlling all european players into shortstacking -You have to "unlock" content, when the content is available for free on many other sites. Example, the platinum level content "Squeeze play." -Playing ABC 123 TAG at 5NL with a $50 bankroll not only has LESS variance, but involves some actual poker skill and will result in a higher win rate. Your site is called pokerstrategy.com right? Shortstacking 10nl is not good for beginners, it won't teach them to be a decent winning player pushing 77+ or whatever, but translates to more revenue for the poker sites which means more money for you. How is this not a scam? You are purposely misleading the bulk of your traffic. Other than that, I like the rest of your site and its expansive content and features, it definitely beats out the "other site" in terms of basics for beginners, but beyond 50nl I can't really comment. | ||
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50bani
Romania480 Posts
Shortstacking is viewed as bad and simplistic and short-sighted by the poker communities such as 2+2 and threads are trolled, OPers are looked down upon. I share this view. Playing short we give away post flop play, that's where the edge is! IMO you really need to rewrite the cash game guides, this all belongs to mtt/sng. | ||
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PokePill
United States1048 Posts
On November 09 2009 23:30 50bani wrote: I found Pokerstrategy very useful despite the fact that i got no bonus from them, didn't even try to, and the only section I am allowed to view currently is beginner, which is all about shortstacking. The point is that most players at the micros and a lot at all limits play shortstacked so getting an insight into their thinking(errr, what they ought to be thinking...) gives me an opportunity to construct a strategy against them. Shortstacking is viewed as bad and simplistic and short-sighted by the poker communities such as 2+2 and threads are trolled, OPers are looked down upon. I share this view. Playing short we give away post flop play, that's where the edge is! IMO you really need to rewrite the cash game guides, this all belongs to mtt/sng. You couldn't be more right. Poker is about taking money from the fish, if you aren't buying in full stacked, you are only hurting yourself. If you're playing games where the players have an edge on you, then it's fine (Mark Vos playing at nosebleeds). | ||
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IMlemon
Lithuania296 Posts
I've been playing poker as a hobby for some time now, on pokerstars and I have a few bucks there. Would it be possible to combine that and 50$ you're giving for a bigger "deposit" bonus, on full tilt poker for example? Thanks. | ||
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Rhaegar99
Australia1190 Posts
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Mynock
4492 Posts
On November 09 2009 23:25 PokePill wrote: Hey what's up, thanks for responding to the other thread. Yes, I am indeed a poster on the "other site", but I definitely have no "allegiance" to their website and if anything I think the thread Mason Malmuth created was hysterical because all it does is boost your traffic and I don't see why that is even news for the "other site." Anyways: 1) Would you say your site is "unethical?" -You require your users to constantly revisit the site to retake the quiz, when perhaps many are not interested in your content at all but the $100 - $150 promotion. The temp ip restriction demonstrates this. I honestly do not see anything unethical with PS.com. We're pretty upfront and transparent with everything we do, you just have to take the time and look around the site - it's all there. As Lutz already explained, our site is best for absolute beginners, and most of the structure/offers reflect this. If someone is merely interested in a good first deposit bonus, they will find the best possible offers at our site anyway. If you happen to find a better (legitimate) offer anywhere else on the internet, please let us know and we will look into improving ourselves. -You omit the fact US players are not allowed, despite being the 10th most popular country visiting your site. The US-restriction is actually stated quite prominently on the site in several places (during the registration, and during the poker-room selection as well), please see example: http://www.pokerstrategy.com/online-poker-rooms/ (top of the page, next to the USA flag) -You omit the fact that a $50 bonus requires 500 vpp, which equates to PAYING $240 in rake. $50 is a very small bankroll even with shortstacking. Shortstacking can be high variance. Most players won't be multitabling so they will be grinding for months. The very first thing our site will teach you about poker (apart from the rules) is bankroll management. With proper bankroll management it is rather difficult to lose the starting capital through SSS, not to mention there are also other poker-variants we offer teaching material on (like SnGs and FL, which do not have the SSS), in fact the most prominently promoted and suggested variant for beginners on our site is FL. -You ruin microstakes poker by mind controlling all european players into shortstacking Again, there are other variants we offer as the starting choice, not to mention the biggest European community - German - already has a choice to begin their poker carrier with our Full Stack Strategy articles, and the other languages are soon to follow. -You have to "unlock" content, when the content is available for free on many other sites. Example, the platinum level content "Squeeze play." Of course you can read about poker strategies on many sites, just like you can find a lot of content written about BW everywhere on the internet. Yet, if you are looking for definite quality, you will probably look for sites that you can trust, like TL in regards to BW, and I can only say the same about pokerstrategy.com. In addition to the articles pokerstrategy.com also offers video materials on a wide range of stakes, as well as private coaching, community boards, etc, etc... -Playing ABC 123 TAG at 5NL with a $50 bankroll not only has LESS variance, but involves some actual poker skill and will result in a higher win rate. Your site is called pokerstrategy.com right? Shortstacking 10nl is not good for beginners, it won't teach them to be a decent winning player pushing 77+ or whatever, but translates to more revenue for the poker sites which means more money for you. For absolute beginners to poker, who are intimidated by just sitting down to the table with real money, I think it is a very good solution to teach them the ropes without having them to put anything at risk. They will quickly learn to understand what's going on at the table, understand the strengths and weaknesses of some hands, and learn basic discipline that is so important for poker play.The SSS is also a very good way to increase your initial bankroll to a level that is more profitable and simply more entertaining to play. How is this not a scam? You are purposely misleading the bulk of your traffic. Other than that, I like the rest of your site and its expansive content and features, it definitely beats out the "other site" in terms of basics for beginners, but beyond 50nl I can't really comment. I don't quite understand where we are misleading anyone, or in fact, are hiding any of the information. The business model can be found quite prominently and readily available on our site: http://www.pokerstrategy.com/businessmodel/. Well, I hope that cleared up some of your questions, but if you still have the impression that our offers are just "scam", please feel free to point out what I may have missed. Cheers. | ||
Xantos
Germany187 Posts
On November 09 2009 23:56 IMlemon wrote: Hello. A question if possible. I've been playing poker as a hobby for some time now, on pokerstars and I have a few bucks there. Would it be possible to combine that and 50$ you're giving for a bigger "deposit" bonus, on full tilt poker for example? Thanks. Hey IMlemon! Currently, we try to make sure that on all poker rooms, you still have the best possible first deposit bonus even after recieving our $50 bankroll. Example Mansion Poker (iPoker network): you pass the quiz & get our $50 bonus - but still have the chance to make use of our 200% up to $600 deposit bonus [if you're an experienced poker player]. On November 09 2009 23:58 Rhaegar99 wrote: Is it possible to get an existing account tracked to unlocked the strategy articles? Ive recently started poker (around 3 months ago) and have come across pokerstrategy.com before. I've completed the quiz before but was disappointed that you needed to pick a new site in order to gain these benifits. Sadly, that's not possible in the utmost majority of cases. You would need to switch to a new site - but as we offer 15 different poker rooms and amongst them the 8 most important ones, this should be doable for most people. Lutz | ||
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Rhaegar99
Australia1190 Posts
Sadly, that's not possible in the utmost majority of cases. You would need to switch to a new site - but as we offer 15 different poker rooms and amongst them the 8 most important ones, this should be doable for most people. Lutz I have an idle account on FTP which i created just to look around. Is it possible to use that account/poker room? Or must you be unregistered to a new poker room? | ||
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{ToT}Strafe
Thailand7026 Posts
On November 10 2009 01:01 Rhaegar99 wrote: I have an idle account on FTP which i created just to look around. Is it possible to use that account/poker room? Or must you be unregistered to a new poker room? What you could do in this case is contact the support of Full Tilt Poker and ask them to retrack your account. They still won't allow it in most cases, but sometimes when you haven't used your account in a very long time and you never played with real money, they will. Send an email to support@fulltiltpoker.com with your registered email on their site and ask them to retrack you to PokerStrategy.com | ||
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Phrujbaz
Netherlands512 Posts
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{ToT}Strafe
Thailand7026 Posts
So far we haven't received enough interest to add PLO8 though. PLO8 is fairly limited in traffic compared to the other variants we offer. | ||
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ShaperofDreams
Canada2492 Posts
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{ToT}Strafe
Thailand7026 Posts
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PlutoNZ
New Zealand410 Posts
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infinity21
Canada6683 Posts
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SanguineToss
Canada815 Posts
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