EPTPokerStrategy.com Q&A Thread - Page 5
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Audiohelper123
80 Posts
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PlutoNZ
New Zealand410 Posts
Is this right? https://secure.partyaccount.com/pc/pc_details_earnpoints.do | ||
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Divinek
Canada4045 Posts
On November 10 2009 08:53 SanguineToss wrote: So wait.... if ur in canada u can sign up for this? Seeing as canada is not america, yes you can | ||
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viewer
Canada662 Posts
On November 10 2009 08:57 Audiohelper123 wrote: the fish how to play. Ahhh. Is that what made it fun for you? Playing off people who watched it on tv and got suckered. Too bad buddy  | ||
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d_so
Korea (South)3262 Posts
btw i failed the quiz and am now studying hard... thanks for all this great material! | ||
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{ToT}Strafe
Thailand7026 Posts
On November 10 2009 08:48 SearingShadow wrote: I need 300 party points on Partypoker.com to clear the $50. How do I get party points and how long would this take? How much rake to I have do pay? How much money do I have to earn to pay that much rake? You get party points automatically by playing any game for which you pay rake. How long it takes and how much you have to rake depends on the variant you choose. Let's say you choose fixed limit. Then assuming you start on the lowest limit $0.02/$0.04, you will get 10 PartyPoints for every 700 hands you are dealt in which rake is collected. I have honestly no idea how much rake in $ that would be, but it does not seem very relevant to me. Your goal is not to unlock that $50. That $50 is just to help you get started to aim much higher. There is no amount of money you have to earn to pay that much rake. The trick is to beat the rake by beating your opponent a little bit harder. And that on the micro stakes is barely a hard thing to do. Which is what we teach. On November 10 2009 08:50 infinity21 wrote: So I signed up and I'm waiting for the $50 to clear. How long does it normally take to get enough points to keep my $50 if I play, say 1 hour a day? I already have a basic knowledge of poker and is considered decent for a random guy I guess lol (when I play with friends) Depending on the amount of tables you play. If you play only two tables you still play about 200 hands per hour. This would mean 6,000 hands per month (which is very little). That then means you get 90 PartyPoker points, so you would need about 3 months to clear it that way. On November 10 2009 08:53 SanguineToss wrote: So wait.... if ur in canada u can sign up for this? Definitely. Unfortunately the only restriction is for US citizens. On November 10 2009 08:57 Audiohelper123 wrote: Do you tell your customers that poker died a year ago and there's no more money left in it? The games are completely dead. the fish all left and now all that's left is break even rb pros who are going to be broke in a couple of years. I would stay the fuck away from poker, it's so brutal and not worth it. Even if you do make it to the levels that compete with a real job you're going to be facing all the people that moved down because of how insanely tough the games have gotten thanks to sites liked pokerstrategy that showed the fish how to play. We don't tell our customers that. Our more experienced customers would think we are joking. Basically poker isn't dead one bit. If you look closely at the numbers it's still booming. I can provide you plenty of evidence: PokerStars keeps hitting records for most users online and biggest tournaments ever. Recent ones all late 2009. Sites like Full Tilt Poker keep growing and Party Poker is making a terrific rebound. None of their numbers indicate any sign of slowing down the boom. Every European Poker Tournament beats the number of participants from last year, while the buy-ins just keep getting bigger. Sure the games get tougher. Do you think that Starcraft in 2009 is as easy to beat as Starcraft 1999? It's a natural progress, but there will always be better players than others. Poker is like Starcraft a skill game. It might use different skills, but they relate very closely. If you are better than the rest, you will always be. No matter how much the bad players improve. Besides Darvin Moon is now playing heads-up in the World Series of Poker for $8,500,000. Yes eight and a half million. He doesn't even have a computer and we surely did not taught him how to play. New players will always be around, get lucky and spread the wealth to superior players. If you say it's not worth it then that's entirely personal. I could give you testimonies of hundreds, maybe thousands of people from just last month that we educated that will disagree. | ||
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{ToT}Strafe
Thailand7026 Posts
On November 10 2009 09:39 SearingShadow wrote: I did some searching on the PartyPoker website and I found that to get 10 Party points, I need to play 380 hands at $0.05/$0.10. So to get the 300 points I need to clear the $50, I have to play 11,400 hands. Is this right? https://secure.partyaccount.com/pc/pc_details_earnpoints.do That is correct, I believe. Just to give you an idea: I'm working full time lately, but I've played on Saturday and Sunday. In those two days I played a combined total of 7,200 hands. Obviously this is not possible for a bigger, but just showing that number isn't very high. On November 10 2009 10:05 d_so wrote: soo i'm an american living in korea for the next year. can i play? btw i failed the quiz and am now studying hard... thanks for all this great material! If you have proof that you live in Korea, I think you can. It's best to wait for Lutz(Xantos) to answer this one in the morning (Euro time) to be entirely sure though. | ||
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infinity21
Canada6683 Posts
On November 10 2009 10:52 {ToT}Strafe wrote: Depending on the amount of tables you play. If you play only two tables you still play about 200 hands per hour. This would mean 6,000 hands per month (which is very little). That then means you get 90 PartyPoker points, so you would need about 3 months to clear it that way. Ok, thanks. I think I can play a lot more hands if I stick to the short stack strategy guide. It seems pretty straight-forward. I'm sure I'll be able to play 4 tables pretty quickly once I get used to how much I should bet and be able to play more than 7 hours per week on average. I'm more concerned about actually improving as a player but I understand I'll need the experience of playing a lot of hands (and smarter opponents) before I can start incorporating higher level thinking into my play. | ||
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{ToT}Strafe
Thailand7026 Posts
Keep thinking about your game. Going in to robotic mode is very dangerous for your progress as a player. | ||
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infinity21
Canada6683 Posts
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{ToT}Strafe
Thailand7026 Posts
 Usually players will find their own pace. But we start off conservative for good reasons. | ||
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ShoCkeyy
7815 Posts
On November 10 2009 11:56 {ToT}Strafe wrote: I guess we don't lie about that Usually players will find their own pace. But we start off conservative for good reasons.Hey Rob, you screwed me over. Thanks, bye! Other than that, I will see you soon. 60% make it 55% and it's a deal! | ||
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verteqz
Canada89 Posts
On November 10 2009 09:41 viewer wrote: Ahhh. Is that what made it fun for you? Playing off people who watched it on tv and got suckered. Too bad buddy The people who got "suckered" vastly underestimated the skill required in poker. It's their own fault they gave money to the players who actually knew how to play. | ||
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pangshai
Chinatown5333 Posts
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Daigomi
South Africa4316 Posts
On November 10 2009 08:57 Audiohelper123 wrote: Do you tell your customers that poker died a year ago and there's no more money left in it? The games are completely dead. the fish all left and now all that's left is break even rb pros who are going to be broke in a couple of years. I would stay the fuck away from poker, it's so brutal and not worth it. Even if you do make it to the levels that compete with a real job you're going to be facing all the people that moved down because of how insanely tough the games have gotten thanks to sites liked pokerstrategy that showed the fish how to play. Guys, can we please keep the questions in this thread civil? So far, I think Xantos and the other guys have answered all the questions well, but this thread is really not the place to make veiled attacks at poker in general or pokerstrategy specifically. If you do have a concern regarding pokerstrategy.com, then I see no problem with you asking them about it (perhaps like PokePill did, but with fewer leading questions). However, don't come here asking rhetorical questions to try an make a point. On November 10 2009 10:52 {ToT}Strafe wrote: Your goal is not to unlock that $50. That $50 is just to help you get started to aim much higher. I must say, I was also thinking that it seemed like a lot of hands you need to play to unlock the $50, but like you said, the purpose of the 50$ is not for you to be able to take money, it is to give you some money to start you off with. Even if you weren't allowed to cash it out for the first year, it would still be good, because it means that I can try playing at the micro stakes before deciding if I really want to invest my own money into it. I have a question regarding the SSS. Is there a particular strategy covered on your page for beating SSS? I know that SSS is basically a hyper conservative way of playing in which you only play the best hands, but if it's true that most of the people in the lower hands play SSS, then is there a way to beat it (other than spending hours trying to find a table that meets the requirements of SSS)? | ||
Xantos
Germany187 Posts
If you lose the money, nothing happens. No obligations for you at all. That's why we also try to impose limit restrictions, i.e. that you cannot go with your $50 to an NL50 table straight and lose it all in one hand - because that is a big money drain for us. If you climb to lets say $75 & miss the conditions, you still have $25. If you dropped to $20 in the first days and are annoyed and stop, you account will just be at $0 after 90 or 120 days. No problem at all. @Daigomi: Yep, we also teach how to play against short stacks. On the one hand, reading through our short stack articles makes you know how a winning short stack ticks (there's plenty plenty of losing short stacks btw.), but we also have specific articles on the issue, such as: http://www.pokerstrategy.com/strategy/no-limit/1415/ And of course, our big stack discussions forums also cover that topic a lot | ||
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Elite00fm
United States548 Posts
On November 10 2009 11:47 infinity21 wrote: Fair enough. It's just that the SSS outlined on the site is pretty darn strict and the only gripe I have about this is that it always says "oh, I'm sure you're tempted to do X but in the long run, Y will pay out better". I'm sure it's true but it doesn't really explain why -- which is what I'm interested in so I can vary my play if I think there's a good reason to. I guess I'll just have to wait until the $50 clears so I can start reading the bronze level articles. Basic is really... basic Math is the reason  | ||
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exalted
United States3612 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q23/exaltedsky/last2months.jpg) edit: fuck, table breaking image, sorry | ||
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Puosu
7008 Posts
On November 10 2009 08:57 Audiohelper123 wrote: Do you tell your customers that poker died a year ago and there's no more money left in it? The games are completely dead. the fish all left and now all that's left is break even rb pros who are going to be broke in a couple of years. I would stay the fuck away from poker, it's so brutal and not worth it. Even if you do make it to the levels that compete with a real job you're going to be facing all the people that moved down because of how insanely tough the games have gotten thanks to sites liked pokerstrategy that showed the fish how to play. Sounds like someone is a losing player! The games have gotten tougher obviously, its not the same money printing machine it was a few years back, but to say that the games aren't hugely profitable anymore is a joke. | ||
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ZhenMiChan
Netherlands1181 Posts
so when will i recieve the 50$ ;o and, about your little recruit a friend thing. Could you explain how it works a bit? i mean what are those points | ||
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