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RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands1261 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-08-28 20:11:09
August 28 2024 20:07 GMT
#1
Last season I made one of these, so I am doing it again.
Who do you think is the best? Rank the players!



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Link to tier list template/maker:
https://tiermaker.com/create/soop-starleague-1-tier-list-16848610

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Is my tier list great? is it wack af?
JDON MY SOUL!
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10470 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-08-28 20:28:31
August 28 2024 20:27 GMT
#2
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Here's mine. Pretty close to yours but I don't rate Speed as highly as you do. Think our tier break points are just a little different overall.
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RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands1261 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-08-28 20:42:20
August 28 2024 20:41 GMT
#3
On August 29 2024 05:27 FlaShFTW wrote:
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Here's mine. Pretty close to yours but I don't rate Speed as highly as you do. Think our tier break points are just a little different overall.


my arguments in support for my Speed ranking, though I do keep in mind its from online play:
Transformer = Mini.
Now dong = Jaedong
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I have to admit, I respect your YSC ranking there. I do think you place Mind too low, and Queen quite high!
JDON MY SOUL!
cheesehuehue
Profile Joined March 2024
Vatican City State90 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-08-28 21:31:19
August 28 2024 21:29 GMT
#4
Queen is on a never-ending slump, I was certain he wouldn't make it to ro16, and he didn't, losing in a group where the best one was Barracks, and second best the SC tourist Rain. Cannot put him anywhere higher. Action is having a good streak, if it lasts, I can see him making it into ro8.

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RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands1261 Posts
August 28 2024 21:38 GMT
#5
On August 29 2024 06:29 cheesehuehue wrote:
Queen is on a never-ending slump, I was certain he wouldn't make it to ro16, and he didn't, losing in a group where the best one was Barracks, and second best the SC tourist Rain. Cannot put him anywhere higher. Action is having a good streak, if it lasts, I can see him making it into ro8.

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Extra question. Are the players in the tiers ranked horizontally from left to right, or no particular order?
Got to say I largely agree but it does feel a bit bottom heavy.
JDON MY SOUL!
ShowTheLights
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Korea (South)1715 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-08-28 23:31:22
August 28 2024 23:30 GMT
#6
The disrespect on Rain

Rain is S tier 1000%

he just doesnt care but when he does (like this season) he will dominate

hes the 2nd most accomplished protoss ever
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RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands1261 Posts
August 29 2024 00:08 GMT
#7
On August 29 2024 08:30 ShowTheLights wrote:
The disrespect on Rain

Rain is S tier 1000%

he just doesnt care but when he does (like this season) he will dominate

hes the 2nd most accomplished protoss ever

Queen won 2 ASL seasons. He's already out. accomplished does not equate to currently being among the best.
JDON MY SOUL!
Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2413 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-08-29 00:17:18
August 29 2024 00:16 GMT
#8
On August 29 2024 08:30 ShowTheLights wrote:
The disrespect on Rain

Rain is S tier 1000%

he just doesnt care but when he does (like this season) he will dominate

hes the 2nd most accomplished protoss ever

Maybe if he doesn't meet any Terrans...

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...after barely scraping past Barracks and Wico :D
The original Bogus fan.
RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands1261 Posts
August 29 2024 03:15 GMT
#9
On August 29 2024 09:16 Turbovolver wrote:
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On August 29 2024 08:30 ShowTheLights wrote:
The disrespect on Rain

Rain is S tier 1000%

he just doesnt care but when he does (like this season) he will dominate

hes the 2nd most accomplished protoss ever

Maybe if he doesn't meet any Terrans...

Group A Spoilers
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...after barely scraping past Barracks and Wico :D

Got to correct you there.

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rain lost to barracks. he barelt scrapes past 1127 and queen. he did not scrape past barracka at all. he failed.
JDON MY SOUL!
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5630 Posts
August 29 2024 08:31 GMT
#10
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FBH #1!
TornadoSteve
Profile Joined March 2018
1115 Posts
August 29 2024 09:23 GMT
#11
My 2 cents:

sSak, free, zero and Action are too high
Speed should be higher
RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands1261 Posts
August 29 2024 10:21 GMT
#12
On August 29 2024 17:31 Peeano wrote:
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haha. Rain in F. that is brutal!
JDON MY SOUL!
iopq
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1101 Posts
August 29 2024 11:00 GMT
#13
Rating the remaining players so it's a spoiler

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Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2140 Posts
August 29 2024 12:26 GMT
#14
On August 29 2024 17:31 Peeano wrote:
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You are a heretic. Just so you know!
Dear BW Gods, it IS now autumn, so...
RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands1261 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-08-29 13:21:02
August 29 2024 13:14 GMT
#15
I am really liking how people agree on the top three-five, but the middle is a complete mix-up, and then the bottom is largely the same.

If YSC goes round of 16 I'll eat my non existing pair of socks.
JDON MY SOUL!
TornadoSteve
Profile Joined March 2018
1115 Posts
August 29 2024 13:24 GMT
#16
Light SnOw Soulkey
Mini hero Rush Sorry Bisu BeSt
JyJ Speed Sharp Rain Stork Jaedong ZerO Mind
Barracks Shine Action sSak Motive
Sacsri YSC
1127 Scan Sea free
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10470 Posts
August 29 2024 15:33 GMT
#17
On August 29 2024 05:41 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote:
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On August 29 2024 05:27 FlaShFTW wrote:
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Here's mine. Pretty close to yours but I don't rate Speed as highly as you do. Think our tier break points are just a little different overall.


my arguments in support for my Speed ranking, though I do keep in mind its from online play:
Transformer = Mini.
Now dong = Jaedong
+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]

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I have to admit, I respect your YSC ranking there. I do think you place Mind too low, and Queen quite high!

I see a lot of won games against Jaedong, who I don't rate at all, so I think that's why I don't rate Speed as high as you. He can take some games off the top pros but I'm just not in the boat that he's going to be that strong. Maybe I should have him another tier higher, he definitely has been shown to want to play better opponents constantly from Artosis casts.
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namkraft
Profile Blog Joined December 2021
560 Posts
August 30 2024 13:27 GMT
#18
Snow is currently not S class. And Stork is more like A atm (if not S).
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RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands1261 Posts
August 30 2024 15:15 GMT
#19
On August 30 2024 22:27 namkraft wrote:
Snow is currently not S class. And Stork is more like A atm (if not S).

to be honest. I think there is a good argument to be made snow is somewhat struggling with the current meta.
JDON MY SOUL!
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8171 Posts
August 30 2024 19:39 GMT
#20
Mostly pretty safe tier lists all around. I would maybe argue that with current map pool you can move all zerg players down a rung though (with possible exception of soulkey?).

Actually based on games I've seen lately you can maybe move all protoss down a rung too lol. This map pool and current meta is terran-favored AF. Only monty hall in PvT is bad for Terran as far as I can tell.
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