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Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10333 Posts
September 09 2024 18:10 GMT
#41
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Zografa
Profile Joined February 2023
291 Posts
September 09 2024 23:58 GMT
#42
I think based on how the draft for ro16 went JD is underestimated in the tier lists here. I mean he got drafted in last round and switched out of his group. The players drafted behind him were bisu mini and light.

I hope he surprises with good performance and goes to eliminations. Will be glorious if Bisu and JD go to ro8 from this group.
RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands1261 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-09-10 00:11:15
September 10 2024 00:10 GMT
#43
On September 10 2024 03:10 Jealous wrote:
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hmmm... not sure but looks like you have a slight bias for mini there. you ranked him quite high compared to the rest.

On September 10 2024 08:58 Zografa wrote:
I think based on how the draft for ro16 went JD is underestimated in the tier lists here. I mean he got drafted in last round and switched out of his group. The players drafted behind him were bisu mini and light.

I hope he surprises with good performance and goes to eliminations. Will be glorious if Bisu and JD go to ro8 from this group.


Yeah it does make on wonder why they chose him so late into the draft. Was expecting him to get picked much sooner. Maybe they were waiting for a chance to force Soulkey to pick him, with Soulkey's ZvZ being his weakest out of the three match-ups.
JDON MY SOUL!
cheesehuehue
Profile Joined March 2024
Vatican City State90 Posts
September 13 2024 17:47 GMT
#44
Light has been trashing Soulkey HARD lately. Either Light found the solution to Soulkey's style, or Soulkey's form is poor because of his low activity for the last month.

RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands1261 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-09-14 15:50:07
September 14 2024 15:49 GMT
#45
On September 14 2024 02:47 cheesehuehue wrote:
Light has been trashing Soulkey HARD lately. Either Light found the solution to Soulkey's style, or Soulkey's form is poor because of his low activity for the last month.


its the maps. almost all the maps are worse for zerg than for terran. Light and Soulkey being the best active players for their respective race can abuse map advantages to the max.
JDON MY SOUL!
cheesehuehue
Profile Joined March 2024
Vatican City State90 Posts
September 14 2024 16:50 GMT
#46
On September 15 2024 00:49 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote:
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On September 14 2024 02:47 cheesehuehue wrote:
Light has been trashing Soulkey HARD lately. Either Light found the solution to Soulkey's style, or Soulkey's form is poor because of his low activity for the last month.


its the maps. almost all the maps are worse for zerg than for terran. Light and Soulkey being the best active players for their respective race can abuse map advantages to the max.


I thought the same at first, but even in Radeon Soulkey has 0W/5L against Light this month. Soulkey also got beat up by Royal + Show Spoiler +
3/6
today, although that does seem to be explained (to some extent?) by the map selection.
RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands1261 Posts
September 14 2024 17:02 GMT
#47
On September 15 2024 01:50 cheesehuehue wrote:
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On September 15 2024 00:49 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote:
On September 14 2024 02:47 cheesehuehue wrote:
Light has been trashing Soulkey HARD lately. Either Light found the solution to Soulkey's style, or Soulkey's form is poor because of his low activity for the last month.


its the maps. almost all the maps are worse for zerg than for terran. Light and Soulkey being the best active players for their respective race can abuse map advantages to the max.


I thought the same at first, but even in Radeon Soulkey has 0W/5L against Light this month. Soulkey also got beat up by Royal + Show Spoiler +
3/6
today, although that does seem to be explained (to some extent?) by the map selection.



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Soulkey went 2-0 on Radeon in that chinese ultimate battle vs Royal. He lost on all the other maps except 1 deja vu win.
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TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3228 Posts
September 15 2024 19:10 GMT
#48
Snow has also been losing A LOT to Royal and Light recently and eloboard doesn't even record all the results.

He's on a losing streak like 0-15 against Light since August in particular and also on negative record vs Royal and the games he won against Royal don't even look dominant like they used to be. It's like he can now barely scrape through.
idegelchik
Profile Joined September 2012
Russian Federation382 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-10-22 10:35:11
October 22 2024 09:27 GMT
#49
What about tier list by race?
https://tiermaker.com/create/terrrans-17572756
https://tiermaker.com/create/zergs-17572756
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RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands1261 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-10-22 12:50:12
October 22 2024 12:43 GMT
#50
On October 22 2024 18:27 idegelchik wrote:
What about tier list by race?
https://tiermaker.com/create/terrrans-17572756
https://tiermaker.com/create/zergs-17572756
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yeah that makes sense. I would put Scan over Sea though. Scan is up on Sea in 1v1 by a lot. Scan though didnt have opponents that threw their Ro24 matches against him, whereas Sea did lol.

Spees in his current form is better than Barracks and Ssak but about on Par with JyJ and RoyaL. Mind is on par with Ssak but different play styles. Mind on good days though definitely on par with RoyaL, JyJ and Speed. Light and sharp over Rush, but rush over JyJ RoyaL and Speed.

cant upload the file from my phone so ill do it like this
s: light sharp rush
a: RoyaL speed JyJ Barracks Mind
b: Ssak
c: Scan Sea

Zerg i got the same list
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FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10470 Posts
October 22 2024 15:14 GMT
#51
After this tournament, I can definitely see Speed rising to being the next rising star terran and surpassing both Royal and Jyj, who seemingly have both sort of hit a wall.
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Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3695 Posts
October 22 2024 18:56 GMT
#52
I can't believe how many people put Light in S Tier. He has been underperforming so hard ever since he won ASL, arguably even before that. He is low A at best.
idegelchik
Profile Joined September 2012
Russian Federation382 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-10-23 04:06:57
October 23 2024 04:03 GMT
#53
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https://tiermaker.com/create/protoss-17572756
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