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Pros React To: Motive's Clown Game vs Rush

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jinjin5000
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1422 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-09-03 19:12:06
August 30 2024 15:41 GMT
#1


+ reason why rush didn't mine top patch
+ Show Spoiler +
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10150 Posts
August 30 2024 17:52 GMT
#2
That was too funny to watch. What a silly silly game.
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Master of DalK
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Canada1797 Posts
August 30 2024 19:20 GMT
#3
If I was motive I'd hide under a rock for a week after that game lmaooooooo
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Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5595 Posts
August 30 2024 19:35 GMT
#4
Poor guy... But it was more that he was really unlucky than that he fucked up, right?
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
LML
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Germany1764 Posts
August 30 2024 20:54 GMT
#5
On August 31 2024 04:35 Elroi wrote:
Poor guy... But it was more that he was really unlucky than that he fucked up, right?


As the guys watching said: he had to check more than 1 mineral block. There's only 7 SCVs at that point in time is what one said. Mains usually have 9 mineral fields.
LML
TornadoSteve
Profile Joined March 2018
1016 Posts
August 31 2024 04:40 GMT
#6
I mean if you practice the build, you suppose to know this already. I dont know what he was thinking, probably too much stress.
Morti1
Profile Joined August 2024
5 Posts
August 31 2024 08:40 GMT
#7
On August 31 2024 13:40 TornadoSteve wrote:
I mean if you practice the build, you suppose to know this already. I dont know what he was thinking, probably too much stress.


Gypsy also mentioned in the cast that top patch is one of the better patches rate wise.

According to him, Rush didnt have the most optimal mining and that saved him.
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2514 Posts
August 31 2024 09:00 GMT
#8
On August 31 2024 17:40 Morti1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2024 13:40 TornadoSteve wrote:
I mean if you practice the build, you suppose to know this already. I dont know what he was thinking, probably too much stress.


Gypsy also mentioned in the cast that top patch is one of the better patches rate wise.

According to him, Rush didnt have the most optimal mining and that saved him.


It's absolutely true, Rush wasn't microing his mining efficiently. That patch is the 2rd most efficient patch. It makes what happened so much better. Rush's ass saved by his laziness.
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4987 Posts
August 31 2024 09:42 GMT
#9
On August 31 2024 18:00 Kaal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2024 17:40 Morti1 wrote:
On August 31 2024 13:40 TornadoSteve wrote:
I mean if you practice the build, you suppose to know this already. I dont know what he was thinking, probably too much stress.


Gypsy also mentioned in the cast that top patch is one of the better patches rate wise.

According to him, Rush didnt have the most optimal mining and that saved him.


It's absolutely true, Rush wasn't microing his mining efficiently. That patch is the 2rd most efficient patch. It makes what happened so much better. Rush's ass saved by his laziness.

Thanks guys. I woulda liked to see one of the pros comment on this in the video, but I guess it didn't make the cut?
Motive's prepared cheese build was super stinky. He was just unlucky af that game.
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Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4987 Posts
August 31 2024 09:47 GMT
#10
IF Rush comes with a video saying he deliberatedly didn't mine the top mineral field I will call bullshit, but it's an interesting thought to counter cheesy ass protosses online.
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Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4987 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-08-31 10:15:28
August 31 2024 10:11 GMT
#11
Rain's comment is just using the situation to his advantage to look smart on stream.*Oh, did I just count 7 workers and 9 patches earlier? Let me do 9-7=2 and impress my viewers.*

First of all what does Rain know about cheese? lol Come on now. That's just a typical League player boasting. Secondly, even funnier: he is wrong, because there were 8 workers already when the probe reached the base, not 7. But let's say there were 7 workers, then Motive should have checked 3 mineral fields to get 100% confirmation, not 2.

Finally if Rain actually already knew all that, he would have said it as the observer was showing 1500 minerals. Not only is Rain overrated, he also acts overrated
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Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2005 Posts
August 31 2024 10:17 GMT
#12
I'd love to hear more on why the double-gate doesn't work at 3 o'clock. Not enough space?
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TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2681 Posts
August 31 2024 10:26 GMT
#13
On August 31 2024 19:17 Simplistik wrote:
I'd love to hear more on why the double-gate doesn't work at 3 o'clock. Not enough space?

Think because of the gas position. If Terran takes his gas early, when the SCV randomly slips over the top to build it'd see the proxy.

At 7 o'clock he would have proxy at the top right corner of the base and unless Terran actively looks for it, there's no reason for an SCV to wander there.
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4987 Posts
August 31 2024 10:35 GMT
#14
On August 31 2024 19:17 Simplistik wrote:
I'd love to hear more on why the double-gate doesn't work at 3 o'clock. Not enough space?

Nah, there is space. I imagine that cannon actually can hit the gas with the diagonal? And if not he can build another to hit both the top mineral(s) and gas. Then there would be 0 tech for Rush and you can build cans at home to defend vs a counter, so it's better than 2 gate.
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TornadoSteve
Profile Joined March 2018
1016 Posts
August 31 2024 11:15 GMT
#15
On August 31 2024 19:11 Peeano wrote:
Rain's comment is just using the situation to his advantage to look smart on stream.*Oh, did I just count 7 workers and 9 patches earlier? Let me do 9-7=2 and impress my viewers.*

First of all what does Rain know about cheese? lol Come on now. That's just a typical League player boasting. Secondly, even funnier: he is wrong, because there were 8 workers already when the probe reached the base, not 7. But let's say there were 7 workers, then Motive should have checked 3 mineral fields to get 100% confirmation, not 2.

Finally if Rain actually already knew all that, he would have said it as the observer was showing 1500 minerals. Not only is Rain overrated, he also acts overrated


Come on, are you serious ? I get that Rain is over-rated, and i totally agree. But blame the translation or may be he did not express clearly, but saying that Rain doesnt understand what was going on is completely ridiculous.
RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands827 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-08-31 12:11:29
August 31 2024 11:54 GMT
#16
On August 31 2024 19:35 Peeano wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2024 19:17 Simplistik wrote:
I'd love to hear more on why the double-gate doesn't work at 3 o'clock. Not enough space?

Nah, there is space. I imagine that cannon actually can hit the gas with the diagonal? And if not he can build another to hit both the top mineral(s) and gas. Then there would be 0 tech for Rush and you can build cans at home to defend vs a counter, so it's better than 2 gate.


The cannon can't hit. The cannon's 2 range out. the cannon's there to establish the position for the next cannon, which will hit top mineral and gas. ps: I did not place the next cannons where motive would, just to demonstrate the range.

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jinjin5000
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1422 Posts
August 31 2024 13:31 GMT
#17
On August 31 2024 19:11 Peeano wrote:
Rain's comment is just using the situation to his advantage to look smart on stream.*Oh, did I just count 7 workers and 9 patches earlier? Let me do 9-7=2 and impress my viewers.*

First of all what does Rain know about cheese? lol Come on now. That's just a typical League player boasting. Secondly, even funnier: he is wrong, because there were 8 workers already when the probe reached the base, not 7. But let's say there were 7 workers, then Motive should have checked 3 mineral fields to get 100% confirmation, not 2.

Finally if Rain actually already knew all that, he would have said it as the observer was showing 1500 minerals. Not only is Rain overrated, he also acts overrated


????
other progamers have said same thing as rain, Knowing theres certain amount of worker at that timing isn't something impressive
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19230 Posts
August 31 2024 13:55 GMT
#18
Bisu’s laugh was killer lolol. At least he didn’t cry on tv or even flinch. Motive earned my respect.
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gingerfluffmuffnr2
Profile Joined February 2024
107 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-08-31 15:38:15
August 31 2024 15:37 GMT
#19
On August 31 2024 22:55 BisuDagger wrote:
Bisu’s laugh was killer lolol. At least he didn’t cry on tv or even flinch. Motive earned my respect.

I hope Light wont torment him too much.

Fking BW still delivers in 2024

Shout out to Nyoken and Gypsy and rest for the amazing cast
Teacher-X17
Profile Joined August 2024
17 Posts
August 31 2024 15:53 GMT
#20
That game had Rush confused let me tell you LOL.

He left this one with more questions than answers haha.
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