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QuanticHawk
United States32159 Posts
On October 09 2009 19:25 Velr wrote: Arafat has one. If Arafat could get one, everyone can get one. It lost a lot of credibility with that, and this is worse. And I like obama. Though I now have more neo-con trolling ammo | ||
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qrs
United States3637 Posts
On October 09 2009 19:25 Velr wrote: Arafat has one. If Arafat could get one, everyone can get one. True that. The Nobel peace prize has been a joke for some time now. | ||
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BloodDrunK
Bangladesh2767 Posts
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brjdrb
United States577 Posts
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Djin)ftw(
Germany3357 Posts
On October 09 2009 19:22 LosingID8 wrote: What do you think of their decision to award Obama with the Peace Prize? In my opinion it was way too premature. He hasn't really accomplished anything to warrant winning such a prestigious award. Perhaps he will be worthy of winning one in the future but it is premature to award it to him now. I'd like to highlight this quote from the article: Asked why the prize had been awarded to Mr Obama less than a year after he took office, Nobel committee head Thorbjoern Jagland said: "It was because we would like to support what he is trying to achieve". Exactly what I thought and giving him a Nobel Prize for support is like.. well at least I would not give someone an award who is still in power. Al Gore won a Nobel Prize in 2007 also (not he alone but still), don't know if that was justified either.. | ||
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KOFgokuon
United States14912 Posts
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JWD
United States12607 Posts
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LorDo
Sweden485 Posts
On October 09 2009 19:28 Foucault wrote: This seems like such a Norwegian. Americans... | ||
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okum
France5779 Posts
The motivation seems accurate. The Peace Prize is frequently awarded to persons with prominent roles in ongoing peace efforts, and not only for past accomplishments. Obama's work to improve diplomatic relations is significant in itself, and in absolute terms, has probably done as much for world peace already as the work of many Peace Prize-worthy activists in less influential positions. It's hard to overstate Bush's negative impact on the world. Even if you consider this an anti-prize for Bush, just restoring the status quo is an accomplishment; it didn't happen automatically. Obama also can't be blamed for the two wars he inherited from Bush. They don't exactly help his cause, but they're not much to hold against him either. | ||
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Shizuru~
Malaysia1676 Posts
This | ||
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50bani
Romania480 Posts
The peace prize has lost it's value already, with Arafat, Kissinger and others. But one can think that it now has a different purpose, it represents support for a cause, it is no longer an achievement based award. | ||
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Chef
10810 Posts
Then again, it's the Peace prize, which is ambiguous at best most of the time anyway. It's just I think of the word nobel and I think of great inventors. Annual awards are generally stupid. | ||
Liquid`Drone
Norway28909 Posts
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Foucault
Sweden2826 Posts
Actually Norway and Sweden are pretty much the same so I could easily see Sweden take the same decision. | ||
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lgd-haze
Sweden547 Posts
On October 09 2009 22:49 Foucault wrote: Oh god silly norwegians. Kidding Actually Norway and Sweden are pretty much the same so I could easily see Sweden take the same decision. >_> Where is this | ||
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Nylan
United States795 Posts
...Peace Price 2010: in the baaaaaaag | ||
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Foucault
Sweden2826 Posts
On October 09 2009 22:53 lgd-Haze wrote: >_> Where is this huh? | ||
NonY
8751 Posts
As far as I know, TL.net has no political experts. At best, we have people that have majored in political science and digest a lot of political media. Nobody is in a position to say that (1) "created a new climate in international politics" (2) "Multilateral diplomacy has regained a central position, with emphasis on the role that the United Nations and other international institutions can play" (3) "his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and co-operation between peoples" are overstated. If his role in those things are not overstated, then they're perfectly excellent reasons to receive an award. | ||
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hifriend
China7935 Posts
if swedish and norwegian politicians constantly have to brown-nose larger and more significant nations I really wish they'd pick a state that has at least ratified the kyoto protocol | ||
thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
imo edit: u.u | ||
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