EPTlike you could chop of his leg at the hip and put it on a fucking see saw and I would be hoisted into the air
omfg LOL
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Fontong
United States6454 Posts
like you could chop of his leg at the hip and put it on a fucking see saw and I would be hoisted into the air omfg LOL | ||
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FabledIntegral
United States9232 Posts
On September 09 2009 09:25 .risingdragoon wrote: wipeout after 2 laps of freestyle? you gotta be seriously weaksauce to only be able to swim that much. swimming isn't that taxing now if it were boxing, then I'd say that most everybody on here will wipeout after 1 round of 2 min sparring, not even a full round. That's how demanding boxing is. You'd be surprised. Almost everyone I know that's tried swimming can't complete a simple four laps (which is about 2 laps in an olympic pool, as they are 50 meters long as opposed to standard high school swimming pools which are about 25 yards long). I've seen countless people that claim "oh I can swim pretty well," only to jump in and find out it is potentially one of the most taxing exercises on your body you can experience. I knew when I first started swimming, I would be so exhausted from workouts trying to keep up that I would go to Quiznos, eat a large Chicken Carbonara with a bowl of soup, still be quite hungry after, but I would be so tired I'd immediately pass out for a few hours on my bed. I'd say more than 75% of males (then again, I'm using a sample size of literally around 10 [fairly athletic] males that I've witnessed actually try to do this) couldn't swim 4 laps of freestyle in an ordinary pool without being absolutely exhausted. I'm out of shape (haven't been on swim team in around 2 years, but I still have the muscle memory) and I still get a little uncomfortable swimming four laps. | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10970 Posts
Swim for Laps can mean anything... As fast as you can? Yeah, you better be exhausted after that. A good pace? What is a good pace. Just swim it? lol... | ||
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FabledIntegral
United States9232 Posts
On September 09 2009 19:07 Velr wrote: Uhm... Swim for Laps can mean anything... As fast as you can? Yeah, you better be exhausted after that. A good pace? What is a good pace. Just swim it? lol... Not as fast as you can. Just swim it. Swim it slower, you'll be taking a longer time. Make it analogous to "jogging" in between walking and running if you want. | ||
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noddyz
United Kingdom462 Posts
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Boertie
Netherlands98 Posts
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madnessman
United States1581 Posts
On September 09 2009 16:35 Jibba wrote: To be fair, the mechanics of swimming play an important role as well. I can jog for about 45minutes and probably elliptical for hour+, but I've completely forgotten swimming technique so I'll be winded after 5~ laps. Also, this is an aside but about the previous article someone posted, the facts on "HIIT > ET" are pretty shaky as of right now. The Tremblay study is often taken out of context because it didn't really show much in the first place. The control was bad and the final measurements are strange. Wait, so what the hell is this argument even about? Whether body builders require more calories than Phelps? There's so many other variables besides "lifting vs. swimming." Why even bother? If you even have reasonable technique when you swim, you'll find that you can probably swim non-stop longer than you can run. Swimming isn't weight bearing and you can alternate between strokes to give some of your muscles a little rest. It's easy to swim for a long time. It just gets really boring. And doesn't Phelps take like 12,000 calories per day? I used to eat so much during swim season. You really work up an appetite when you swim. EDIT: Yes he does. http://blogs.wsj.com/health/2008/08/13/the-michael-phelps-diet-dont-try-it-at-home/ | ||
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Haemonculus
United States6980 Posts
And yet friends of mine need to watch what they eat constantly, and going running almost every day. Obviously if this kid is eating 30,000 calories a day, there's something to be said for that, but perhaps he just had a shitty metabolism to start with? | ||
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bludragen88
United States527 Posts
On September 09 2009 18:16 cas wrote: the part of his brain that tells him he's full does not work properly I don't see why people in this thread can't seem to understand this. For those of you who wrote something like "it disgusts me when I eat this much", it is because your brain can sense how much fat you have, and when you have too much fat it puts the brakes on your appetite. For morbidly obese people (like this half ton teen), the fat sensor is broken, and they are ravenously hungry despite having way more fat than they need. Imagine having just finished a long exercise session or having starved for a week, and think about how hungry you would be, because your fat stores are not full. That's what it is like for that teen. While the genetics have not been fully traced through yet, this much is definitely known about the body's fat regulation systems, if you consult current medical literature. Whether his mother's coddling is disgusting or not is an entirely different matter, but his appetite is fully justifiable. | ||
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Impervious
Canada4222 Posts
Maybe, when you go to McDonalds, and order a large sized Big Mac combo, with an extra Big Mac, and that's a typical meal for you, you have a problem. Those two Big Macs are enough calories to sustain me for a day - and I'm already a pretty big guy. And if you don't see that it is a problem, and at least try to do something to fix it, Then, in other ways, maybe they have no way of knowing when to stop. I mean, how often do they go see their doctors? How often does their family stand up to them, and tell them that they need to change? How easy is it to access the type of high-calorie food needed to gain this type of weight? There are a lot of things that could be done to prevent this type of situation. But does it conflict with individual rights? | ||
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d3_crescentia
United States4054 Posts
On September 10 2009 00:25 Haemonculus wrote: There's got to be *some* element of genetics involved in this though. I personally can consume ridiculous amounts of junk food and not gain an ounce. And I'm far from physically active, lol. You haven't hit 30 yet! On September 10 2009 00:25 Haemonculus wrote: And yet friends of mine need to watch what they eat constantly, and going running almost every day. Obviously if this kid is eating 30,000 calories a day, there's something to be said for that, but perhaps he just had a shitty metabolism to start with? Genetics/metabolism probably play a significant role (look at his parents), but he's young enough so that it shouldn't really matter if he lives an active lifestyle. | ||
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roronoe
Canada1527 Posts
Seriously, try carrying 500 lbs and see how many steps you can take. | ||
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
On September 10 2009 00:28 bludragen88 wrote: I don't see why people in this thread can't seem to understand this. For those of you who wrote something like "it disgusts me when I eat this much", it is because your brain can sense how much fat you have, and when you have too much fat it puts the brakes on your appetite. For morbidly obese people (like this half ton teen), the fat sensor is broken, and they are ravenously hungry despite having way more fat than they need. Imagine having just finished a long exercise session or having starved for a week, and think about how hungry you would be, because your fat stores are not full. That's what it is like for that teen. While the genetics have not been fully traced through yet, this much is definitely known about the body's fat regulation systems, if you consult current medical literature. Whether his mother's coddling is disgusting or not is an entirely different matter, but his appetite is fully justifiable. Still, unless you're retarded, you monitor your calorie intake. | ||
Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On September 10 2009 14:02 travis wrote: Still, unless you're retarded, you monitor your calorie intake. Why? You have you be taught, usually self taught, about caloric intake and the like. I know you are because you had an interest in getting fit for NW (what ever happened to that?), but how many people does that really apply to? His body's natural mechanism to monitor that doesn't work, and he's got worthless parents/teachers that didn't help him. | ||
Manifesto7
Osaka27179 Posts
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doktorLucifer
United States855 Posts
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bludragen88
United States527 Posts
On September 10 2009 14:07 Manifesto7 wrote: @travis. Or unless you have been bullied and picked on your whole life, and the only solace you find is in food. Honestly, you think a lot of 11 year olds count calories? How many 11 year olds are gong to say "thanks for these three burgers for dinner mom, but I would rather have some steamed broccoli". Gimmie a break. The habits were foisted on him by his parents, and as a result of becoming a social reject because of his weight he retreats further into food. While this is a possible explanation for his behavior - using food as a retreat - monitoring caloric intake can be hard for other reasons too. Like Mani says, 11 year olds don't really have a notion of counting calories. And if they're hungry, they aren't inclined to start trying. And also once you know how to count calories its one thing to monitor those calories that you don't REALLY need - I could cut down from 3000 to 2500 no sweat, by just declining to eat that last whopper junior, but cutting down from 1500 to 1000 might feel worse than pulling teeth, and thats what it would feel like for a morbidly obese person, which is how they get there to begin with (unless you don't believe my previous comment about the morbidly obese being as they are because lack of fat regulation). | ||
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doktorLucifer
United States855 Posts
On September 08 2009 13:39 Aegraen wrote: Phelps doesn't eat 10,000 calories a day. Most body builders only eat 5,000 to 6,000 a day and that's mostly protein. There's no way anyone eats 10,000 a day and isn't in severe metabolic trouble. Can it really be mostly protein? If a gram of protein is roughly 4 calories/gram, and using the fact that anyone trying to gain mass will intake anywhere between 1-1.5 (sometimes a bit more) grams of protein/pound of bodyweight, it doesn't make sense to say this. a 200 pound bodybuilder would likely intake 200 grams protein/day minimum. Thats 800 calories. Even if said 200 pound bodybuilder consumed 1.5 grams of protein/pound, it wouldn't be much more than 1/5 or 1/6 of his total caloric intake o_oa But you're not wrong in using a number like 5-6000 as a broad generalization for caloric intake, assuming you're talking about laarge/well trained/experienced body builders. | ||
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On September 10 2009 14:43 Thesecretaznman wrote: Also: Can it really be mostly protein? If a gram of protein is roughly 4 calories/gram, and using the fact that anyone trying to gain mass will intake anywhere between 1-1.5 (sometimes a bit more) grams of protein/pound of bodyweight, it doesn't make sense to say this. a 200 pound bodybuilder would likely intake 200 grams protein/day minimum. Thats 800 calories. Even if said 200 pound bodybuilder consumed 1.5 grams of protein/pound, it wouldn't be much more than 1/5 or 1/6 of his total caloric intake o_oa But you're not wrong in using a number like 5-6000 as a broad generalization for caloric intake, assuming you're talking about laarge/well trained/experienced body builders. It's not mostly protein. I think Tom Venuto said he used something like 50% carb, 30% protein, 20% fat. Also, I think body builders probably have a much more healthy diet than Phelps. When you're eating for calories in that kind of range, you need to have a lot of junk food or you simply won't hit your mark. I think Brock Lesnar eats a lot of junk food too since he needs an absurd amount of calories too. | ||
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KwarK
United States44385 Posts
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