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Canada5847 Posts
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reciprocate
United States41 Posts
I know that my problem is nowhere near as big as this kid's, and I know that he has irresponsible parents, nevertheless my parents have fed me whatever I wanted ever since I was young, and I don't have the problem. I believe it's self control on the kid's part as much as anything else. | ||
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Impervious
Canada4222 Posts
Having given up trying to gain weight because I got cut (oddly enough, for not being big enough), I reverted back to my "normal" habits (ie, not consciously trying to gain weight), and I lost 25 in 4 months. I lost 40 in 6 months. I simply cannot comprehend gaining weight that fast, nor for that length of time. And I am a pretty big guy (currently about 235 lbs). I currently eat about 3000 calories daily. But I am in pretty good physical shape. I saw this documentary on TV a while ago. There was much more to it than just him. It is really sad, disturbing, and eye-opening. | ||
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Aegraen
United States1225 Posts
On September 08 2009 14:14 psion0011 wrote: Once again aegraen proves he has no idea what he's talking about and can't tell the difference between aerobic and anaerobic exercises. It's not the act of exercise its the intent of caloric intake. Of course Phelps daily activities require more calories, however, the Body builder to achieve his desired results requires much more caloric intake because of the required need to pump food into your body to gain massive amounts of mass in short periods. Our body is a vessel, pumping more fuel through in an efficient manner means we become stronger. Phelps goal isn't to gain mass, or weight, but to achieve a balanced equilibrium to achieve best swimming results. Certainly 10,000 calories no matter anyones metabolic rate would cause excessive weight gain, even with the amount of training he does (And it would have to be daily), especially with what he eats. He eats junk food. I tend to side on Biology and nutritional facts, rather than on speculation. Do you think the bodybuilder who is 6'2 325 needs more caloric intake to gain mass, and or to stay at current mass even though his physical routine is not as demanding for caloric intake.... or Do you think Michael Phelps needs more calories who wants to stay at roughly the same BMI, and works out pretty strenuosly daily. Realistically, who do you think will need more calories? That 6'2 325 Body builder will be eating very healthy meats, lots of protein (Eggs, Shakes, Cottage Cheese, etc.) that are pretty healthy for you, and getting the best amount of daily vitamins and minerals, or the guy who eats 10k calories a day in junk food, but yet somehow stays at the same weight... Michael Phelps is no ectomorph. | ||
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craz3d
Bulgaria856 Posts
On September 08 2009 23:47 Aegraen wrote: It's not the act of exercise its the intent of caloric intake. Of course Phelps daily activities require more calories, however, the Body builder to achieve his desired results requires much more caloric intake because of the required need to pump food into your body to gain massive amounts of mass in short periods. Our body is a vessel, pumping more fuel through in an efficient manner means we become stronger. Phelps goal isn't to gain mass, or weight, but to achieve a balanced equilibrium to achieve best swimming results. Certainly 10,000 calories no matter anyones metabolic rate would cause excessive weight gain, even with the amount of training he does (And it would have to be daily), especially with what he eats. He eats junk food. I tend to side on Biology and nutritional facts, rather than on speculation. Do you think the bodybuilder who is 6'2 325 needs more caloric intake to gain mass, and or to stay at current mass even though his physical routine is not as demanding for caloric intake.... or Do you think Michael Phelps needs more calories who wants to stay at roughly the same BMI, and works out pretty strenuosly daily. Realistically, who do you think will need more calories? That 6'2 325 Body builder will be eating very healthy meats, lots of protein (Eggs, Shakes, Cottage Cheese, etc.) that are pretty healthy for you, and getting the best amount of daily vitamins and minerals, or the guy who eats 10k calories a day in junk food, but yet somehow stays at the same weight... Michael Phelps is no ectomorph. With a healthy cocktail of HGH and steroids in the evening. | ||
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Aegraen
United States1225 Posts
On September 08 2009 23:51 craz3d wrote: With a healthy cocktail of HGH and steroids in the evening. Don't forget a needle in the ass, and smoking some pot! /em about to throw in and watch Pumping Iron again! Arnold is so damn hilarious. | ||
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winterBlossom
Australia27 Posts
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StorrZerg
United States13922 Posts
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winterBlossom
Australia27 Posts
On September 09 2009 03:24 StorrZerg wrote: if hes like 800+ lbs i could fit 6 + of me inside him DAMN gay | ||
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Mindcrime
United States6899 Posts
On September 08 2009 09:08 Aegraen wrote: The factory is still liabel for the damages caused, just as the person should be liabel for damages caused to third parties in the process of smoking. If you choose to enter a building where smoking is permitted by the owner, you need to stfu and deal with the consequences of your choice. Children, having little recourse, are an exception. But in their case, I feel that criminal courts rather than civil courts would be the more appropriate place for handling things. | ||
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nomsayin
United States124 Posts
On September 09 2009 04:25 Mindcrime wrote: If you choose to enter a building where smoking is permitted by the owner, you need to stfu and deal with the consequences of your choice. Children, having little recourse, are an exception. But in their case, I feel that criminal courts rather than civil courts would be the more appropriate place for handling things. I agree with the permission of smoking on any private property, but the case of public property is something else. Smoking on the street should not be legal. In the case of children, their parents are responsible for them and what dangers they find acceptable for their children. | ||
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Matoo-
Canada1397 Posts
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Wr3k
Canada2533 Posts
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7mk
Germany10157 Posts
On September 08 2009 02:41 decafchicken wrote: 30,000 calories is fucking absurd. I throw that back in like 7-10 days and im infinitely more active than that fat blob of floating bones is. I wonder if there's any hope he could lose that weight naturally. He might have to stand up for more than 2 minutes though. 120 000 KJ ONEHOUNDREDANDTWENTYTHOUSAND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | ||
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YPang
United States4024 Posts
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eMbrace
United States1300 Posts
On September 08 2009 23:47 Aegraen wrote: It's not the act of exercise its the intent of caloric intake. Of course Phelps daily activities require more calories, however, the Body builder to achieve his desired results requires much more caloric intake because of the required need to pump food into your body to gain massive amounts of mass in short periods. Our body is a vessel, pumping more fuel through in an efficient manner means we become stronger. Phelps goal isn't to gain mass, or weight, but to achieve a balanced equilibrium to achieve best swimming results. Certainly 10,000 calories no matter anyones metabolic rate would cause excessive weight gain, even with the amount of training he does (And it would have to be daily), especially with what he eats. He eats junk food. I tend to side on Biology and nutritional facts, rather than on speculation. Do you think the bodybuilder who is 6'2 325 needs more caloric intake to gain mass, and or to stay at current mass even though his physical routine is not as demanding for caloric intake.... or Do you think Michael Phelps needs more calories who wants to stay at roughly the same BMI, and works out pretty strenuosly daily. Realistically, who do you think will need more calories? That 6'2 325 Body builder will be eating very healthy meats, lots of protein (Eggs, Shakes, Cottage Cheese, etc.) that are pretty healthy for you, and getting the best amount of daily vitamins and minerals, or the guy who eats 10k calories a day in junk food, but yet somehow stays at the same weight... Michael Phelps is no ectomorph. Phelps eats only junk food? Do you really think that? He eats extremely large meals -- balanced meals. Is it the most healthy choice of foods? Probably not, but it's balanced -- just like most normal people. 8 hours of constant lap swimming can require that many calories. It's already recommened that "active" people around Phelp's age get like 3500 calories. Being an olympic athelte and consuming 10,000 isn't that far off. It would not cause Phelps to gain wait given the activities he partakes in. Most people on here (and it's nothing to be ashamed of) -- would be completely wiped out if they swam 1-2 laps of freestyle. it burns a shit load of energy. | ||
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
On September 08 2009 13:24 illu wrote: I doubt that; every culture has their downsides when it comes to food. In North America I think it is definitely the fat contents (from butter, cheese, just to name a few). But most East-asian cuisines are also bad in their own ways. One thing that comes to mind is salt content. One table-spoon of soy sauce has a LOT of sodium in it. One specific aspect to Japanese cuisine is the consumption of raw fish. It leads to many problems that I won't name. Chinese food is even worse. Pretty much anything and everything is coated with sugar. Nope. Everywhere in the world the problem is vast quantities of processed food. Processed food is very calorically dense (whether it has excess carbohydrates, fats, or BOTH -- most of them have both). Basically, if you're going shopping, stay out of the middle of the grocery store. Outside is meat, dairy, fruits, vegetables, etc. Inside is everything processed with massive amounts of calories per serving. Chips, soda, cookies, candy, etc. Butter and cheese are healthy. Raw fish isn't unhealthy. Anything breaded/deep fried/etc. is VERY calorically dense and not very healthy. | ||
NonY
8751 Posts
On September 08 2009 23:47 Aegraen wrote: It's not the act of exercise its the intent of caloric intake. Of course Phelps daily activities require more calories, however, the Body builder to achieve his desired results requires much more caloric intake because of the required need to pump food into your body to gain massive amounts of mass in short periods. Our body is a vessel, pumping more fuel through in an efficient manner means we become stronger. Phelps goal isn't to gain mass, or weight, but to achieve a balanced equilibrium to achieve best swimming results. Certainly 10,000 calories no matter anyones metabolic rate would cause excessive weight gain, even with the amount of training he does (And it would have to be daily), especially with what he eats. He eats junk food. I tend to side on Biology and nutritional facts, rather than on speculation. Do you think the bodybuilder who is 6'2 325 needs more caloric intake to gain mass, and or to stay at current mass even though his physical routine is not as demanding for caloric intake.... or Do you think Michael Phelps needs more calories who wants to stay at roughly the same BMI, and works out pretty strenuosly daily. Realistically, who do you think will need more calories? That 6'2 325 Body builder will be eating very healthy meats, lots of protein (Eggs, Shakes, Cottage Cheese, etc.) that are pretty healthy for you, and getting the best amount of daily vitamins and minerals, or the guy who eats 10k calories a day in junk food, but yet somehow stays at the same weight... Michael Phelps is no ectomorph. With 60-90 minutes of exercise a day, I need to eat ~4,000 calories to maintain my weight at 5'11" 155. On my more difficult days, I get above 1000 calories/hour burned. But on easier days, I'm around 800-900 calories/hour. Since swimming is a non-impact sport, Phelps is able to exercise much more than 60-90 minutes a day. I would guess something like 3-4 hours a day. And since he is an elite athlete, I'm sure he is maintaing well over 1000/calories an hour burned, even on his easier days. My guess would be that he burns at least 5k calories a day from swimming. The rest of his day would burn him 2k. So 7k+ a day sounds reasonable to me before hearing anything about it. So hearing the figure 8-10k a day sounds totally reasonable. If he ate only 6k a day, I'm sure his body would begin to fail within weeks. Bodybuilders are burning less than 1000 calories from exercise. They're burning a lot more when not exercising since they weigh more. Maybe 1000 calories more. And then since they are trying to build mass, they have to eat more than they burn, which would be an extra ~500 a day. So they're 4k calories short on exericse, they catch up 1k on weight, and another 500 because of their goal. They're 2500+++ calories short of Phelps. | ||
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eMbrace
United States1300 Posts
i've been like the same weight for the past 4 years. | ||
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Impervious
Canada4222 Posts
On September 09 2009 07:53 Liquid`NonY wrote: Bodybuilders are burning less than 1000 calories from exercise. They're burning a lot more when not exercising since they weigh more. Maybe 1000 calories more. And then since they are trying to build mass, they have to eat more than they burn, which would be an extra ~500 a day. So they're 4k calories short on exericse, they catch up 1k on weight, and another 500 because of their goal. They're 2500+++ calories short of Phelps. Umm, not quite. I was hooked up to a device which measured the amount of calories burned during a workout - I was burning calories in excess of 1000 per hour, during the heavy weight lifting parts of my workouts. Although my training plan included sprints and cardio, the "bulking" parts of it still burnt a shitload of calories - do you know how many calories are burned when you are leg-pressing over 1000 lbs? If you don't believe me, do the math. | ||
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