Can someone who understands the game give a brief rundown of what the opening moves made mean and what they might signify? It'll help newbies just spectating this game a lot!

Macavenger

United States1132 Posts

June 03 2009 20:14 GMT

#63

I would try if I weren't a player, but as is I don't want to risk giving away anything I know from what's not visible on the board.

The problem with trying to spectate a Diplomacy game from the outside is that, unlike Starcraft (and most other games) where the observers have as much or more info than the players and less bias, it's very difficult to tell what's really going on in Dip because the moves on the board are like a third of what's really going on at most. Moves are going to get made that look totally nonsensical to an outside observer, but most of the time there are very good diplomatic reasons for them that you have no chance of understanding.

zeks

Canada1068 Posts

June 03 2009 20:36 GMT

#64

I bought this board game about 6 months ago and nobody has been willing to play with me

I've played it a couple times a long long time ago when I was still in elementary school....love conspiring against people.

stenole

Norway869 Posts

June 03 2009 20:44 GMT

#65

I would say the same thing as Macavenger. I want to explain what is the rationale behind my moves. But I can't do it without revealing part of my long term strategy, words that have been given to me behind closed doors or the lack of those. And while Musoeun explains the reason for his somewhat quirky opening, we, the players, have to read it the same way we read private messages in-game filled with lies, deceit, hearsay etc. Maybe he posted it here just to make us all feel safe.

RLTY

United States965 Posts

June 04 2009 03:47 GMT

#66

Me and my friends were really into this game for quite a while. I love how it's a non-random board game but the game is largely meta and how well you get people to join you and then backstabbing them before they backstab you.

The best place to play is by far at :
http://phpdiplomacy.net/

The place is very organized and a great place to start since you can just mass up games, kinda like an iccup of sorts.

Falcynn

United States3597 Posts

June 04 2009 03:56 GMT

#67

That's where we're playing our game right now

ShadowDrgn

United States2497 Posts

June 04 2009 04:12 GMT

#68

Hey Macavenger, come finalize your moves.

Macavenger

United States1132 Posts

June 04 2009 05:15 GMT

#69

Fall 1901 moves:

England:
The fleet at North Sea convoy to Holland from Yorkshire.
The army at Yorkshire move to Holland via convoy. (fails)
The fleet at English Channel move to Belgium.
France:
The fleet at Mid-Atlantic Ocean move to Portugal.
The army at Gascony move to Spain.
The army at Burgundy move to Munich.
Italy:
The fleet at Ionian Sea convoy to Albania from Apulia.
The army at Apulia move to Albania via convoy.
The army at Venice move to Trieste. (fails)
Germany:
The fleet at Baltic Sea convoy to Denmark from Prussia.
The army at Prussia move to Denmark via convoy.
The army at Kiel move to Holland. (fails)
Austria:
The army at Serbia move to Rumania. (fails)
The fleet at Trieste move to Venice. (fails)
The army at Vienna move to Galicia.
Turkey:
The army at Constantinople move to Bulgaria.
The fleet at Ankara move to Black Sea.
The army at Bulgaria move to Greece.
Russia:
The army at Warsaw hold.
The fleet at Gulf of Bothnia move to Sweden.
The army at Ukraine move to Rumania.
The fleet at Sevastopol support move to Rumania from Ukraine.

ShadowDrgn

United States2497 Posts

June 04 2009 06:31 GMT

#70

Yeah, that just happened. Germany hasn't logged in yet, but I'm expecting a big

Luddite

United States2315 Posts

June 04 2009 07:08 GMT

#71

It makes me happy that, in just the first year, we've occupied every single scrap of land in southeast Europe

3clipse

Canada2555 Posts

June 04 2009 07:35 GMT

#72

Damn, France is off to a good start.

stenole

Norway869 Posts

June 04 2009 07:39 GMT

#73

This is a nightmarish game. Smaller countries are crumbling around me and the big boys are closing in.

Macavenger

United States1132 Posts

June 04 2009 09:25 GMT

#74

Oh, and for the curious, Winter adjustments:

England:
F London
France:
F Brest
A Paris
F Marsailles
Italy:
No adjustments
Germany:
No adjustments
Austria:
A Budapest
Turkey:
F Constantinople
F Smyrna
Russia:
A Moscow
A St. Petersburg

Musoeun

United States4324 Posts

June 04 2009 14:15 GMT

#75

On June 04 2009 15:31 ShadowDrgn wrote:
Yeah, that just happened. Germany hasn't logged in yet, but I'm expecting a big

I'm far more polite than that. Even if you go out, do it with a smile. Not quietly, but with a style. I am going to point out though that you made yourself a target, especially with that English slave.

Luddite

United States2315 Posts

June 04 2009 16:33 GMT

#76

So I have a question about the rules. Suppose you have a unit supporting another, and that unit supports a third. Now someone else's army attacks the middle unit- is the support for the third unit cut, in that case?

stenole

Norway869 Posts

June 04 2009 16:44 GMT

#77

Support is cut... unless it supports the third unit in an attack against unit that attacked the second one.

Falcynn

United States3597 Posts

June 04 2009 16:45 GMT

#78

Wait so you mean like

Army in Province1 (P1) supports A P2 to hold
A P2 supports A P3 to hold?

If that's what you mean then if P2 gets attacked then P2's support is cut, but P1 is still supporting P2 to hold position. Unless you have them supporting move orders, then I'd need more details on exactly what you're talking about.

Luddite

United States2315 Posts

June 04 2009 16:47 GMT

#79

yeah that's what I meant Falcynn. So under that circumstance, two armies could dislodge P3, but they couldn't dislodge P2, right?

Falcynn

United States3597 Posts

June 04 2009 16:51 GMT

#80

You'd need 3 armies to dislodge either.

P3 has support from P2 giving him a defense of 2. To dislodge P3 you'd either need to have one army cut support by attacking P2, and use the other two to overpower P3. Or you'd need to attack with all three against P3.

Exact same scenario if you want to dislodge P2. You can dislodge P1 with only 2 armies though since no one is supporting him.