It's funny, right in the middle of my finals I decided on impulse I wanted to make my own skin. But then I realized I was being dumb and went back to studying.

Now that I'm done my finals I might look into it again, brush up on my old photoshop skillz and such. Although if I'm lazy I might just mix and match from a variety of skins, lol.

Cyro

United Kingdom20285 Posts

December 18 2011 18:42 GMT

#1803

Hey, sorry if this has been asked before, but i cant look through 90 pages:

I recently got a mechanical keyboard (brown switches) and have been trying to switch over to keyboard for Osu instead of spam clicking everything, but it seems that i have a small issue hitting the right timings, and also have massive problems with mouse accuracy on maps that i used to clear with ease, because i need to have some focus on my keyboard finger/s and when to press keys.

Is this normal etc, and how should i go about practicing so i can actuly use my keyboard with the game?

I usually play maps on max difficulty.

Glioburd

France1911 Posts

December 18 2011 18:53 GMT

#1804

On December 19 2011 03:42 Cyro wrote:
Hey, sorry if this has been asked before, but i cant look through 90 pages:

I recently got a mechanical keyboard (brown switches) and have been trying to switch over to keyboard for Osu instead of spam clicking everything, but it seems that i have a small issue hitting the right timings, and also have massive problems with mouse accuracy on maps that i used to clear with ease, because i need to have some focus on my keyboard finger/s and when to press keys.

Is this normal etc, and how should i go about practicing so i can actuly use my keyboard with the game?

I usually play maps on max difficulty.

I think it's only about habit. You always played with the mouse, so you simply need a lot of practice to change your habit of play.
Keyboard/mouse is good when you mastered it because one hand can focus on timing and the other can focus on the aim. Not all in the same hand.
I have a mecanical keyboard with brown switches too and when you will be ok with keyboard/mouse it's really pleasant and efficient

Cyro

United Kingdom20285 Posts

December 18 2011 19:00 GMT

#1805

Ok, thanks for the reply.

I think black switches might be better for osu, but my choice was based more on sc2 and general typing, i think after a while i will be able to float and tap 3-6 times in a very short amount of time with these (as is needed often) as i can already hit combos much easier than i could with mouse clicks

Bobbias

Canada1373 Posts

December 18 2011 19:06 GMT

#1806

I switched form Mouse to ZX/Mouse pretty early on in playing because I found it immediately easier to hit the timings. Splitting the work between both arms actually helps more than you'd think, because (very generally speaking) each side of the brain more or less controls the limbs on the opposite side (way oversimplifying things here), so this basically makes it so that you split the timing and mouse control up. Hell, Ive tried to play mouse only a few times recently and found that both my timing and my mouse control suffered greatly when I did. I found that I was suddenly unable to accurately control the mouse because I had to think about clicking with the same hand at the same time as moving the mouse.

Rizare

Canada592 Posts

December 18 2011 19:28 GMT

#1807

I wonder, do you move only with the mouse and click with z/x? So far, I left-click the mouse and hit a key on the KB when there are streams and stacks.

Bobbias

Canada1373 Posts

December 18 2011 19:54 GMT

#1808

Yes, I use the mouse only for movement, and z/x for clicking. I'd disable the mouse buttons entirely, but that also disables the buttons on the side, and I like being able to hit one of the extra buttons to get to the pause screen, it's really fast and convenient.

Part of the reason I made the switch so easily is that I've played quite a few other music games on the computer, so pressing buttons to music is not new to me, but moving the mouse is, so it didn't take me long at all to pick up using the keyboard.

Cyro

United Kingdom20285 Posts

December 18 2011 19:55 GMT

#1809

I cant only click for some, confuses the crap out of me and i miss half of the notes

Rizare

Canada592 Posts

December 18 2011 20:03 GMT

#1810

It's hard for me to click with only the keyboard because I started with mouse only at the beginning. I didn't know that you could use the KB back then. When I try to play with KB, I can't seem to click at the right time. I'm using some cheap KB so that probably explains why.

Bobbias

Canada1373 Posts

December 18 2011 20:15 GMT

#1811

Well, I'm on a laptop with infuriating scissor switches. It's just a matter of getting a feeling for how you have to lead things to hit at the right time. You always need to begin moving your finger before it's actually time to hit the note with a keyboard (you still do a bit with a mouse, bit the travel distance is a lot smaller, so the lead time is also a lot smaller), and every keyboard is different (although mechanical ones generally are more similar to each other since the switches are more standard... 1 mechanical keyboard with MX Browns will probably feel pretty close to another with Browns, despite different manufacturers).

It sounds to me like you haven't gotten a feel for the amount of time you need to lead things on that keyboard yet. Just keep trying, and you should begin to notice some improvement in your accuracy.

It kinda annoys me that I use my left hand fr the ZX, lol, my right hand is far better for that sort of thing, but I definitely couldn't use my left hand for the mouse, so I'm stuck like this.

(Just as background info since you haven't read my previous posts, I've played stepmania for about 6-7 years, dabbled in DJMax, played a fair bit of O2Jam and some Beatmania IIDX (which is the sole reason I have a fliptop modded PS2 and a swapdisk))

ThaZenith

Canada3116 Posts

December 18 2011 20:21 GMT

#1812

Using a keyboard without thinking just takes time, just like a mouse only switch from keyboard would take time. I never really liked mouse only because clicking would cause me to move my mouse a bit, and once you get past 4 stars moving a bit is really bad.

Rizare

Canada592 Posts

December 18 2011 21:05 GMT

#1813

Actually, I read a bit with the posts you have made in the previous pages. Quite helpful I guess. I rebound z/x to s/d because it's easier for me. Now that I think about it, I should rebind pause as well. Thanks for the tips.

Cyro

United Kingdom20285 Posts

December 19 2011 00:48 GMT

#1814

hitting the notes wasnt that big of a problem, but i was literally missing notes by like 200 pixels and still do often, when i used to S the song

Cyro

United Kingdom20285 Posts

December 19 2011 00:49 GMT

#1815

On December 19 2011 06:05 Rizare wrote:
Actually, I read a bit with the posts you have made in the previous pages. Quite helpful I guess. I rebound z/x to s/d because it's easier for me. Now that I think about it, I should rebind pause as well. Thanks for the tips.

I did the same

I have no handrest on my keyboard (as is probably better) and hitting zx is impossible without my hand floating in mid air, whereas with sd i can lean against part of the keyboard a little bit and get a re-usable posture

Xafnia

Canada874 Posts

December 19 2011 03:12 GMT

#1816

When I switched to z/x from mouse click, I had a lot of trouble with timing on jumps, after a bit of practice though, I get a much higher accuracy then when I was mouse. I also recommend disabling mouse clicks in osu settings, and getting a tablet, they are awesome.

I also use browns, pretty sure blues/browns are by far the most popular for osu.

VelkanKnight

United States69 Posts

December 19 2011 04:13 GMT

#1817

I'm going to try to post more on this thread

Cyro

United Kingdom20285 Posts

December 19 2011 04:16 GMT

#1818

On December 19 2011 12:12 Xafnia wrote:
When I switched to z/x from mouse click, I had a lot of trouble with timing on jumps, after a bit of practice though, I get a much higher accuracy then when I was mouse. I also recommend disabling mouse clicks in osu settings, and getting a tablet, they are awesome.

I also use browns, pretty sure blues/browns are by far the most popular for osu.

After a few hours im already hitting chains much easier than i was with mouse, triple taps etc are very easy to execute on browns, i still need a ton of practice to get used to the keyboard though. I can see why it is good, wish i could try out black/red switches though instead of just blindly assuming these are better.

Do you alternate z/x?

I think i can tap a ton faster with brown switches by just using 1 button, as you can float just above/below key activation quite easily, i could try with a second key too but im still in the process of learning to actuly use and sync up a second hand when playing the game so im not sure right now

prototype.

Canada4200 Posts

December 19 2011 04:48 GMT

#1819

I uploaded some tablet videos showing off my secret weapon I've been practicing for the past few months.

I alternate z/x for every note.

Mitani Nana - Cat Food
Shihori - Heisei Kappa Lords

Regarding accuracy after switching from mouse only to keyboard... I had really bad accuracy. I get like ~75% on every song which is pretty devastating considering that I could get ~98% with mouse clicks. It became easier as I played more, but some patterns are still hard to follow for me.

edit: Mechanical keyboards doesn't make a huge difference. But they feel nice

Also, i'm taking requests for what songs/maps to record next. Anyone interested? Try not to suggest anything too crazy lol