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Teliko
Profile Joined January 2011
Ireland1044 Posts
February 26 2014 20:35 GMT
#4921
5 star map difficulties can fluctuate quite a lot. Generally mappers will name the easier 5 star maps "Hard" and the harder maps "Insane" or "lunatic" or something. If you're not ready for 5 star maps yet, you'll get a better idea of the difficulty from the stars as opposed to what difficulty it says in the title.
Add a drop of lavender to milk, leave town with an orange and pretend you're laughing at it.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20318 Posts
February 26 2014 21:30 GMT
#4922
You can also check for example BPM and i believe it says approach rate, OD etc on the page. You can use dt/hr on easier ones, half-time on harder (that actually plays maps at ~0.75x speed)
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
February 26 2014 21:46 GMT
#4923
Regarding difficulty of different difficulties of a certain song, one can estimate the difficulty of a song by the number of objects in the song. More objects correlates with difficulty. Don't use this to compare maps of different songs, that wouldnt make sense.
For example, in this map, you can see that the fanzhen difficulty has 100 less objects then the insane difficulty. When you play both, the difference in difficulty is very clear.

Note that this doesnt always work. The larger the difference in number of objects, the more accurate this method becomes. (It's pretty dumb to say a map is probably harder because it has 2 more objects out of 600..)

I used to use this method when i was less familiar with mappers or with 'insane', 'hyper', 'lunatic', 'extra', etc.


Btw, on another subject: i'm looking for some good slow stream maps, upper limit being 130 bpm. What i want to do is practice slow streaming and control by putting ar to 6 and od to 10. Maps i found pretty useful in that way were these two: this and this one. Any suggestions? (i'm not really interested in using half time :$)
maru~
Profile Joined February 2013
2345 Posts
February 26 2014 22:17 GMT
#4924
On February 27 2014 05:35 Teliko wrote:
5 star map difficulties can fluctuate quite a lot. Generally mappers will name the easier 5 star maps "Hard" and the harder maps "Insane" or "lunatic" or something. If you're not ready for 5 star maps yet, you'll get a better idea of the difficulty from the stars as opposed to what difficulty it says in the title.

I'm ready for some but not for others. I play mostly 5 star maps nowadays though. By the way, I've played some <5 star maps which I found a lot more difficult than many 5 star maps I played but maybe that's just me being retarded.

BPM and object number in same songs I realized myself. Not sure how reliable the former is though, and I haven't paid too much attention to it yet. I'll take a look at approach rate etc.
It's actually really not a big deal, I can just try the map and see pretty quickly if it's too hard or not, I was just being curious more than anything.

On February 27 2014 06:46 Yorbon wrote:
I used to use this method when i was less familiar with mappers or with 'insane', 'hyper', 'lunatic', 'extra', etc.

Oh yeah that's another thing I was wondering about, are maps tagged lunatic etc. usually harder than "normal" insane?
Xafnia
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada874 Posts
February 26 2014 22:23 GMT
#4925
On February 27 2014 06:46 Yorbon wrote:
Btw, on another subject: i'm looking for some good slow stream maps, upper limit being 130 bpm. What i want to do is practice slow streaming and control by putting ar to 6 and od to 10. Maps i found pretty useful in that way were these two: this and this one. Any suggestions? (i'm not really interested in using half time :$)



https://osu.ppy.sh/b/87580
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/183541
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/51155
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/88515
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/75843
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
February 26 2014 22:29 GMT
#4926
On February 27 2014 07:17 maru~ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 05:35 Teliko wrote:
5 star map difficulties can fluctuate quite a lot. Generally mappers will name the easier 5 star maps "Hard" and the harder maps "Insane" or "lunatic" or something. If you're not ready for 5 star maps yet, you'll get a better idea of the difficulty from the stars as opposed to what difficulty it says in the title.

I'm ready for some but not for others. I play mostly 5 star maps nowadays though. By the way, I've played some <5 star maps which I found a lot more difficult than many 5 star maps I played but maybe that's just me being retarded.

BPM and object number in same songs I realized myself. Not sure how reliable the former is though, and I haven't paid too much attention to it yet. I'll take a look at approach rate etc.
It's actually really not a big deal, I can just try the map and see pretty quickly if it's too hard or not, I was just being curious more than anything.

Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 06:46 Yorbon wrote:
I used to use this method when i was less familiar with mappers or with 'insane', 'hyper', 'lunatic', 'extra', etc.

Oh yeah that's another thing I was wondering about, are maps tagged lunatic etc. usually harder than "normal" insane?
Yeah, it's pretty much the order i mentioned, extra being hardest. Maybe there are some other terms i'm unfamiliar with, or that i dont think of right now.

@ xafnia: Thanks a lot! :D
maru~
Profile Joined February 2013
2345 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-27 02:27:50
February 26 2014 22:43 GMT
#4927
I see, ty.

@ xafnia: Thanks a lot! :D
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20318 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-27 12:57:06
February 27 2014 12:49 GMT
#4928
Be careful of too slow streams/AR etc Maru, when i first started to "get" streaming at all it happened around ~175bpm - and 190 came easier to me than 160 did. Too low AR to BPM ratio can likewise be very difficult
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-27 13:00:00
February 27 2014 12:57 GMT
#4929
Slow streams are the way to go!

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


edit: oh, already got a better fc, changed screenshot.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20318 Posts
February 27 2014 13:01 GMT
#4930
Is good to work up but i see lots of newer players mashing keys for streams and i didn't really mentally connect with them at overly low or fast speed the same way i probably wouldn't now when i try 120bpm streams soon
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Xafnia
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada874 Posts
February 27 2014 17:51 GMT
#4931
I learned 130-140 bpm streams first. If you can get high acc slow streams, you can high acc at any speed if you can click fast enough.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20318 Posts
February 27 2014 20:33 GMT
#4932
^you seem to be more natural with slower streams
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-27 22:57:32
February 27 2014 22:06 GMT
#4933
On February 28 2014 05:33 Cyro wrote:
^you seem to be more natural with slower streams

I do think it's true what he says, though, regardless of what's more comfortable.

I could only stream 170 bpmish (until like 20 notes, due to stamina issues, lol) after i played nyan cat like 50 times, while i at the time always played 160-190 bpm maps. Except for speed or stamina issues, i've never noticed the same effect the other way around. Actually, when i get faster, my normal speed stream quality declines, so ill have to get that control back. In my view, one should always practice streams in this manner: get faster -> improve control -> get faster -> improve control etcetc.. And the best of improving control is in my view, is practicing imunity to ar changes, and practicing slow streaming. So, for me, becoming better at slow speeds is an essential part of becoming faster.

Partly i'm not one to talk, because i suck at streaming, and am quite slow, but i really think it works this way. Of course, this is all imo.

edit: haha, i'm doing pretty good, lately. Slow streams are going pretty nice:
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[image loading]
You wont believe it, but that was #31
Xafnia
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada874 Posts
February 27 2014 23:07 GMT
#4934
On February 28 2014 05:33 Cyro wrote:
^you seem to be more natural with slower streams


Streaming @ 170-180bpm is much easier accuracy wise for me than something like 150.
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-28 00:02:10
February 27 2014 23:48 GMT
#4935
First try on a song called nao - Dimension Tripper. Apparently, even a non-fc score could get you in top 50. And well, i fced it.^^
Here it is:


Sorry for even worse quality then normal. Please bear with it ):
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20318 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-28 19:31:43
February 28 2014 15:53 GMT
#4936
GJ! It's probably because it's kinda tricky a bit, as well as just the length. It's really hard to FC a 4 minute long map unless you're really quite comfortable with it, in my experience

How are you recording Yorbon? I love using shadowplay record (or OBS) for recording live gameplay because the osu recording of cursor movement (for spectate/replay) is actually terrible, the sample rate is far far too low and it has some weird behaviors
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-28 20:24:00
February 28 2014 20:22 GMT
#4937
On March 01 2014 00:53 Cyro wrote:
GJ! It's probably because it's kinda tricky a bit, as well as just the length. It's really hard to FC a 4 minute long map unless you're really quite comfortable with it, in my experience

How are you recording Yorbon? I love using shadowplay record (or OBS) for recording live gameplay because the osu recording of cursor movement (for spectate/replay) is actually terrible, the sample rate is far far too low and it has some weird behaviors
I just play the replay, and use fraps to capture the video. After that, the video is uploaded directly to youtube.

I dont record live play, because my computer seems to not be able to handle both play and video capturing. Although the difference in play is small, it's enough to annoy me, so i just don't do live capturing.
75
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany4057 Posts
March 02 2014 21:10 GMT
#4938
On February 28 2014 08:48 Yorbon wrote:
First try on a song called nao - Dimension Tripper. Apparently, even a non-fc score could get you in top 50. And well, i fced it.^^
Here it is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBFPzcVyTxY

Sorry for even worse quality then normal. Please bear with it ):

how long did you play this game to be that good?

im just curious ... and pretty impressed
yo twitch, as long as I can watch 480p lagfree I'm happy
maru~
Profile Joined February 2013
2345 Posts
March 02 2014 22:48 GMT
#4939
On February 28 2014 08:48 Yorbon wrote:
First try on a song called nao - Dimension Tripper. Apparently, even a non-fc score could get you in top 50. And well, i fced it.^^
Here it is:
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBFPzcVyTxY


Sorry for even worse quality then normal. Please bear with it ):

Do you mind sharing your skin? I like it quite a bit.
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-02 23:48:53
March 02 2014 23:36 GMT
#4940
On March 03 2014 06:10 75 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2014 08:48 Yorbon wrote:
First try on a song called nao - Dimension Tripper. Apparently, even a non-fc score could get you in top 50. And well, i fced it.^^
Here it is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBFPzcVyTxY

Sorry for even worse quality then normal. Please bear with it ):

how long did you play this game to be that good?

im just curious ... and pretty impressed
Haha, thanks

I've played this game since may 2012, so nearly 2 years. It took me half a year to get into insanes and wasted 3 months on trying to play tablet, which is really not my thing.
Personally, i feel most important was my mindset: there are almost no bad maps, every aspect of the game is trainable and last but not least; practicing consists of both pushing your limits ánd building consistency

@ maru: My skin consists of elements of various skins (Credits go to yuugo and cyro for supplying me the necessary parts). So it's not really uploaded anywhere as far as i know. I don't know a good, virus-free file uploader, so you can either suggest one to me, or pm me your mail address. I assure you i won't be sending you any spam, or sell your account to spam senders.
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