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On March 16 2012 06:57 Teliko wrote:
Just recently started getting the hang of using a tablet for Osu a couple days ago, wondering if people mainly use the Pen mode or Mouse mode for their pen tracking? Pen mode being that your tablet top is a direct translation to your monitors dimensions i.e. anywhere you click on the tablet will be exactly that area you click on your desktop, where as mouse mode has the pen function like a mouse, i.e. if you lift the pen out of signal range, move it a distance in some direction then place it down again, the cursor will still be in the same place you left it as opposed to the relevant area on your screen.
I'm pretty sure close to 100% of people would use pen mode. But don't quote me on that. o.o
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On March 16 2012 06:59 ThaZenith wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2012 06:57 Teliko wrote:
Just recently started getting the hang of using a tablet for Osu a couple days ago, wondering if people mainly use the Pen mode or Mouse mode for their pen tracking? Pen mode being that your tablet top is a direct translation to your monitors dimensions i.e. anywhere you click on the tablet will be exactly that area you click on your desktop, where as mouse mode has the pen function like a mouse, i.e. if you lift the pen out of signal range, move it a distance in some direction then place it down again, the cursor will still be in the same place you left it as opposed to the relevant area on your screen. I'm pretty sure close to 100% of people would use pen mode. But don't quote me on that. o.o
I'd have thought that as well, seems to be the most sense-making option. But so far I've found it easier to use mouse tracking mode because of the option to increase the sensitivity. When I see videos of tablet users playing osu, they barely need to move their hands to go from one side of the screen to the other. That's why I'm wondering if most people do it or if I just need to get used to mouse tracking and get a better feel for it.
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On March 16 2012 07:53 Teliko wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2012 06:59 ThaZenith wrote:On March 16 2012 06:57 Teliko wrote:
Just recently started getting the hang of using a tablet for Osu a couple days ago, wondering if people mainly use the Pen mode or Mouse mode for their pen tracking? Pen mode being that your tablet top is a direct translation to your monitors dimensions i.e. anywhere you click on the tablet will be exactly that area you click on your desktop, where as mouse mode has the pen function like a mouse, i.e. if you lift the pen out of signal range, move it a distance in some direction then place it down again, the cursor will still be in the same place you left it as opposed to the relevant area on your screen. I'm pretty sure close to 100% of people would use pen mode. But don't quote me on that. o.o I'd have thought that as well, seems to be the most sense-making option. But so far I've found it easier to use mouse tracking mode because of the option to increase the sensitivity. When I see videos of tablet users playing osu, they barely need to move their hands to go from one side of the screen to the other. That's why I'm wondering if most people do it or if I just need to get used to mouse tracking and get a better feel for it.
They're just resizing their area. You can make a 1 inch square area be equivalent to your entire screen in pen mode. Should be in the options somewhere to resize it. Mine has a 'mapping' button by the pen mode option.
Personally mine is 2 inch width, with height auto set to fit my screen right.
I tried the entire area at the start, and it was hilarious but unwieldy.
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I'm developing RSI because of this game t_t
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On March 16 2012 08:04 ThaZenith wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2012 07:53 Teliko wrote:On March 16 2012 06:59 ThaZenith wrote:On March 16 2012 06:57 Teliko wrote:
Just recently started getting the hang of using a tablet for Osu a couple days ago, wondering if people mainly use the Pen mode or Mouse mode for their pen tracking? Pen mode being that your tablet top is a direct translation to your monitors dimensions i.e. anywhere you click on the tablet will be exactly that area you click on your desktop, where as mouse mode has the pen function like a mouse, i.e. if you lift the pen out of signal range, move it a distance in some direction then place it down again, the cursor will still be in the same place you left it as opposed to the relevant area on your screen. I'm pretty sure close to 100% of people would use pen mode. But don't quote me on that. o.o I'd have thought that as well, seems to be the most sense-making option. But so far I've found it easier to use mouse tracking mode because of the option to increase the sensitivity. When I see videos of tablet users playing osu, they barely need to move their hands to go from one side of the screen to the other. That's why I'm wondering if most people do it or if I just need to get used to mouse tracking and get a better feel for it. They're just resizing their area. You can make a 1 inch square area be equivalent to your entire screen in pen mode. Should be in the options somewhere to resize it. Mine has a 'mapping' button by the pen mode option. Personally mine is 2 inch width, with height auto set to fit my screen right. I tried the entire area at the start, and it was hilarious but unwieldy.
Oh wow, I was actually unaware that tablet portioning was possible. Only started using a tablet about half a week ago and just assumed it was all or nothing, seems I haven't been messing around with the settings enough. Interested to know what other tablet users are doing too, though.
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map to a smaller area = less pen movement =0)
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On March 16 2012 02:11 MaV_gGSC wrote:
Are you guys familiar with kawaii rice? He's insanely good at this and he introduced me to it
Pretty sure most of us are aware of him. Somewhere he even posted his account info for SC2 ages ago (probably wrong now).
It's about fucking time.
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That's a bit better than the last one. (passed without nofail lol)
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Also, it seems I lost all the work I had for commenting on every one of those maps :/ Fuck.
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You don't have to comment on them lol
I just wanted to make a list of maps I like and hope that some people would give them a shot
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kekeke biggest fluke ever. too bad i choked during one of the streams
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Can beat Gold Dust again since I got my tablet yesterday, so not too bad. Smaller jumps seem super easy, but long jumps make me feel like I'm randomly flailing the pen around, lol. And I have to take a break every other song or my hand starts hurting, unlike my mouse where I'm able to go for hours straight. xD
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On March 16 2012 14:01 MegaManEXE wrote:
You don't have to comment on them lol
I just wanted to make a list of maps I like and hope that some people would give them a shot
Yeah, but... Fuck man, I was going to finish it too, and I lost everything I had written because my computer sometimes decides to lock up due to ATI's broken video drivers, and forces me to reset :/
Also, I was thinking about how I play osu, and I thought I'd ask about some of the specifics of how you guys play. I always play with my headphones on and the music up fairly loud, and the hitsounds considerably lower than the music. I also have to have my mouse at exactly the right height and distance or I'm terrible. I was wondering how some of you guys played.
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Sound levels don't really matter for me unless there is something overly distracting going on, but I am extremely particular about my set up. In my ideal comfort zone I'm at my school desk in my school chair at max height, if my hand isn't at the right height, angle, and distance from my body I can not play this game to a satisfactory degree. The tragedy is that my plastic mouse pad has worn out in the place I usually use my mouse so I have to re-orient it and get used to the speed again. Its more of a familiarity thing, it takes me about 1.5 weeks of serious play to get used to any set up.
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I use earbuds with hitsound volume about twice as loud as the music volume (according to the in-game volume sliders), I keep my computer volume at around 25-30% which is usually loud enough to drown out my tapping for me. I have terrible accuracy if I can hear myself tapping and I have terrible accuracy if I can't hear the hitsounds so this fixes both of those problems. I play on a laptop on a little dinner tray while I sit on my bed, so the mouse is constantly at the same height and distance, also I get to rest my elbows on my legs when I sit cross-legged so it lets me have better mouse control and my arms don't get tired since I'm not hovering at all.
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On March 18 2012 00:06 MegaManEXE wrote:
I use earbuds with hitsound volume about twice as loud as the music volume (according to the in-game volume sliders), I keep my computer volume at around 25-30% which is usually loud enough to drown out my tapping for me. I have terrible accuracy if I can hear myself tapping and I have terrible accuracy if I can't hear the hitsounds so this fixes both of those problems. I play on a laptop on a little dinner tray while I sit on my bed, so the mouse is constantly at the same height and distance, also I get to rest my elbows on my legs when I sit cross-legged so it lets me have better mouse control and my arms don't get tired since I'm not hovering at all.
That sounds like an absurdly counterintuitive setup if you are going for rigidity... =0X
You must also absolutely hate Moonfragrance's maps if you need hit sounds =0p
I don't have any particular setup quirks, other than that I use my tablet as my mousepad- so I have a piece of low pile scotchbright on my desk to smooth it back out, cuz mice always seem to get that black shit on the bottom of them and they transfer to my tablet surface... I like my keyboard at an angle, too- cuz when I use my comp I rest my left arm on the edge of the table and right elbow on my table; more ergonomically satisfying for me...
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On March 18 2012 01:16 Logginurkeyz wrote:
That sounds like an absurdly counterintuitive setup if you are going for rigidity... =0X
You must also absolutely hate Moonfragrance's maps if you need hit sounds =0p
I don't have any particular setup quirks, other than that I use my tablet as my mousepad- so I have a piece of low pile scotchbright on my desk to smooth it back out, cuz mice always seem to get that black shit on the bottom of them and they transfer to my tablet surface... I like my keyboard at an angle, too- cuz when I use my comp I rest my left arm on the edge of the table and right elbow on my table; more ergonomically satisfying for me...
Yeah I do hate his maps XD
I usually just replace all the custom hitsounds with the default normal-hitnormal so I can hear it if the mapper ends up using ridiculously quiet sounds
If they are using 5% volume then I just have to bs my way through it or I ragequit
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That's kinda interesting. It's funny, when I played stepmania I moved between both playing with hitsounds and without. I felt like I was better with hitsounds for a while, but then it stopped making a difference. Now I actually prefer to hear my own tapping, unless the song has some confusing timings, but I prefer the music so loud with osu that I cant actually hear myself.
The worst thing I've noticed about my setup is that my mouse sometimes seems to drift to the left, and I usually have it so close to the laptop that sometimes I need to pause and re-position the mouse, although I haven't had to do that too often since I applied a patch to change how windows applies acceleration. I used to get a 1 pixel difference to the left every time i moved the mouse any good distance side to side, now I get it more rarely.
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I used to play Stepmania without headphones and without hitsounds (by hitsounds you mean the clapping noises that you can turn on when you hit the arrows right?).
That probably explains why I was so inaccurate.
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In college, I used to play ddr on mute because the music confused me... I could actually clear healing vision on heavy on mute- but with the music, i'd insta-fail...
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i've noticed i play this game better if i'm slouching/leaning forward a bit, resting my left elbow on my desk with my left hand supporting my head up. whenever i'm playing sc or dota though my posture is perfect =(
scumbag osu!: want to play this game well? i'm gonna mess up your back in the process
edit: oh wait disregard all that. i forgot i play with my keyboard on my head
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