Dude got his head blown nearly clean off by a teargas gun (essentially the same firing power). Without a doubt, any kind of grenade shell is gonna kill you if it hits when fired from any kind of launcher.
On January 03 2010 08:35 weaksauce wrote: i love the AA 12s but the SPAS is probably the best for one shot run n gun satisfaction
Wow, a lot of that was pretty impressive.
I'm thinking of getting sniping a try, anyone got suggestions on guns? Stat wise it looks like the auto ones are almost identical. I'm probably going to go auto at least to start, don't want to even try intervention until I got some practice. So of the other 3 ... are they all as identical as they look statistically?
I like barrett a lot... for SC, value damage over accuracy, and for HC, accuracy over damage. ranges are all pretty similar if youre using the advanced scopes. Thermal might be worth it for SC, but def not HC because everyone goes cold. Snipers are worthless with thermals if they have cold blood.
On January 05 2010 02:07 Hawk wrote: I like barrett a lot... for SC, value damage over accuracy, and for HC, accuracy over damage. ranges are all pretty similar if youre using the advanced scopes. Thermal might be worth it for SC, but def not HC because everyone goes cold. Snipers are worthless with thermals if they have cold blood.
Thanks, I got on more question if you wouldn't mind. How much does stopping power affect sniping. If it helps a lot I might use it, if not I'll just stick to cold blooded. I anticipate my aim being a bit off until I really get the hang of sniping. I tried it in one game awhile ago and I think I only got 1 kill with my sniper rifle lol. The rest were shotgun kills.
WA2000 FMJ Slight of hand pro Cold blooded pro Ninja pro M9 with tac knife Smoke nade Claymore
I love this setup. Wearing some head phones is a must tho- it's very nice to be able to hear people running up on you, and because you have ninja your noise doesn't get in the way. Cold blooded is there to stay off of UAV, and any other kill streak shinanigans. You really don't need stopping power for a sniper class, because if you are good enough- upper body 1 shots / dome shots are really pretty simple. M21 is a shit sniper (to weak, and worthless with out SP which i refuse to use), barrrrooooooooot has too much recoil, and intervention is bolt action so it takes to long. Basically W2000 is hands down the best rifle you can use IMO
On January 05 2010 02:07 Hawk wrote: I like barrett a lot... for SC, value damage over accuracy, and for HC, accuracy over damage. ranges are all pretty similar if youre using the advanced scopes. Thermal might be worth it for SC, but def not HC because everyone goes cold. Snipers are worthless with thermals if they have cold blood.
Thanks, I got on more question if you wouldn't mind. How much does stopping power affect sniping. If it helps a lot I might use it, if not I'll just stick to cold blooded. I anticipate my aim being a bit off until I really get the hang of sniping. I tried it in one game awhile ago and I think I only got 1 kill with my sniper rifle lol. The rest were shotgun kills.
I'm really not sure, since I haven't played SC in a while. There's def no need for it on hc though. I don't know if the boost is worth it, since there's good perks in that slot. I distinctly remember a lot of people surviving torso shots in Sc though...
On January 05 2010 02:07 Hawk wrote: I like barrett a lot... for SC, value damage over accuracy, and for HC, accuracy over damage. ranges are all pretty similar if youre using the advanced scopes. Thermal might be worth it for SC, but def not HC because everyone goes cold. Snipers are worthless with thermals if they have cold blood.
Thanks, I got on more question if you wouldn't mind. How much does stopping power affect sniping. If it helps a lot I might use it, if not I'll just stick to cold blooded. I anticipate my aim being a bit off until I really get the hang of sniping. I tried it in one game awhile ago and I think I only got 1 kill with my sniper rifle lol. The rest were shotgun kills.
Barret + stopping power = 1 hit kill almost every time you shoot. without it you need more accuracy. Sniper + FMJ might be enough to reach the same effect.
Alright guys, thanks for all the tips. I'll probably start trying this stuff on Tuesday. I'll probably be feeding my recent addiction to castle crashers again tonight.
On January 05 2010 02:07 Hawk wrote: I like barrett a lot... for SC, value damage over accuracy, and for HC, accuracy over damage. ranges are all pretty similar if youre using the advanced scopes. Thermal might be worth it for SC, but def not HC because everyone goes cold. Snipers are worthless with thermals if they have cold blood.
Thanks, I got on more question if you wouldn't mind. How much does stopping power affect sniping. If it helps a lot I might use it, if not I'll just stick to cold blooded. I anticipate my aim being a bit off until I really get the hang of sniping. I tried it in one game awhile ago and I think I only got 1 kill with my sniper rifle lol. The rest were shotgun kills.
I'm really not sure, since I haven't played SC in a while. There's def no need for it on hc though. I don't know if the boost is worth it, since there's good perks in that slot. I distinctly remember a lot of people surviving torso shots in Sc though...
hahaha he was licking his balls at first then knifing him with his own cock.
UMP45 owns! I just need to find out if I need to change some stuff on Build:
Ump45 w/ rapid fire SPAS shotgun /w red dot sight Thrown Knife stun grenade perk 1: Marathon Pro perk 2: Stopping Power Pro perk 3: Steady Aim Pro death streak: last stand.
I don't know if I really need the stopping power pro, and I think I might need to change the thrown knife as well.
I think this is the best build I currently have in CQB maps.
If you have any suggestion feel free to provide! I'm currently level 41 so I think a few more guns to unlock!
Well, semtex and claymore are easily the best equipment, throwing knife kinda sucks. However, when yiu actually get a throwing knife kill, it's so funnnnny and so humiliating for the victim that I use them quite often anyway xD
Other than that, as long as you're playing SC, stopping power / cold-blooded is a toss-up imo- I'd personally go with cold-blooded, 'cause the UMP kills so quickly anyway. If you're playing HC, then naturally, never use stopping power.
Oh, and I just have to tell you about this retard I played yesterday. His ID was "Knife Ku" I think. (On PC) Basically, I was playing sabotage on Highrise, and we were in different teams. I was going around knifing with .44 magnum + tactical knife. He was also knifing but without tactical knife, and instead used the care package glitch. Both had Commando ofc. When the game was over, I think he had better stats than me, and that's fine, but man, during the game itself... he was the biggest asshole you'll ever see.
For me, whoever uses the care package glitch for knifing is either: 1. Someone who is just trying it out for once, and then never will again. 2. A retard who ignores answering to all the hate he gets in game. 3. A sad little kid who thinks that as long as it helps his stats, it doesn't matter that it is an unlogical glitch, and he should be ashamed of himself.
This guy was neither. Basically, whenever we had a knife fight, I won about 75% of the time. That kinda indicates that he's a worse player than me. But the things he said... oh god. I'm gonna illustrate our in-game argument. It's ridiculous.
Me: Can't you just lay down the care packaging, it's retarded. Him: (In caps ofc... sigh) OMFG, STOP USING THE TACTICAL KNIFE, I CAN'T KILL YOU THEN! Me: Eh.. what? You're the one whos glitching, and neither one of us lags, so you should kill me if you had better reflexes, idiot. Him: NO! TACTICAL KNIFE IS NOOB!!!! Me: Srsly, WHAT is your problem with it!? Him: IT MAKES YOUR KNIFING BETTER SMARTASS!
(At this point, I seriously couldn't believe whom I was talking to. I mean, really?)
Me: You can't be serious... Him: I'M SO FUCKING SERIOUS, DROP THE TACTICAL KNIFE,NOOBNOOBNOOBNOOB. IT'S RETARDED, 'CAUSE IT MAKES YOUR KNIFING BETTER! Me: OMG, OF COURSE IT DOES! What the hell do you think the point is of me using it? Him: Shut up nerd! Me: You however are a fucking noob who goes around overusing a glitch, and still whines about OTHERS being overpowered, when they're doing nothing wrong whatsoever. Him: DO YOU WANT ME TO REPORT YOU OR WHAT!? Me: WTF!? WHAT THE HELL!? I'VE NOT DONE SHIT! Him: You've gone around with tactical knife... THAT'S BANWORTHY, YOU GOT THAT!? Me: *sigh*... ask yourself: what is more retarded? Using a weapon attachment for what it's designed to, or going around using a fucking glitch that makes you run, like 50% faster or something, + makes your stabbing completly silent? Him: OMG, is this even a serious question!? Tactical knife ofc, NOOBNOOBNOOB!!! Me: Do you think you're being funny? Or do you have lower IQ than George W. Bush, I mean srsly, you're the biggest idiot I've ever seen, and I've played with aimboters like 4 times. Him: NOOBNOOBNOOB! I'm soooooooo gonna report you!
And then the game ended. And yes, he did report me, although nothing has happened. I srsly cannot believe this guy. Was it some kid sitting in front of his computer, trying to be funny, or was he for real? Regardless, he should be perm-banned, like right now...
What do you think, who was right in this discussion? o.0
The UMP 45 is pretty hot. I haven't used it alot, but I do well with it when I do have it. A funny game for me ... I was playing around looking at different guns before a match was starting. I forgot to set my set up back to normal, and I selected the class I was tinkering with. So I had an attachmentless UMP45 ... with bling as a selected perk. Oddly enough, it was the best game I ever had (I went 26-0). Though to be fair, my pavelow did a lot of the work.
As for sniping, tried it out for the first time really yesterday. I didn't get to play much, since I went out with my brother in law to celebrate a promotion he got. Anyway .. I did ok, I didn't get THAT many kills with it. To be honest, I've been using it as a secondary weapon to my shotgun though. I've been going around with SPAS/foregrip, marathon, cold blooded, ninja. When I get the opportunity to take a sniper shot, I'll pull the WA2000 out and take it. So I played like 4 games last night, think I ended up with somewhere between 12-15 kills with sniping. The default controls feel a little odd for sniping on Xbox. I might try to change them up, maybe change the steadying button to left trigger.
And you were right. That guy was just trolling or is legally retarded.
Well, there is a way to semi combat the kill cam. Staying zoomed in for a few seconds after killing them sometimes will only give away your general direction if anything. The problem arising when they are recognizeable landmarks in your view. But yeah, that's kind of what I was doing. Moving from spot to spot using my shotgun on the way. As a result most of my kills ended up being shotgun kills.
If you're sniping, the intervention and barrett do the same amount of damage (70 at all ranges unsilenced, 50 silenced). The barrett is better because of it's semi-automatic and more ammo, assuming you are killing with your first hit the majority of the time. The only time you'll 1hit is when you hit the torso in the head, while using stopping power. Torso is a 1.1x damage multiplier, stopping power is 1.4, therefore 1.1 x 1.4 x 70 = over 100 damage.
Also... The UMP45 is glitched. If you look at the charts, all of the guns have maximum damage and minimum damage, and silencers will reduce the threshold for the damage reduction (hence the range decrease). For some strange reason, the UMP45 *ACTUALLY* doesn't get weaker with a silencer, so with stopping power you can drop someone in 2-3 hits at any range using a silencer (you can't do that with any other gun that i've seen so far). My new favorite class is silenced UMP, akimbo glocks (because that shit is fucking imba, i can drop 3 guys effortlessly becuase they can't aim while they're getting covered in bullets), scavenger (because i'll use all 200-something rounds before dying more often than not, and infnite grenades is hilarious), stopping power and either ninja pro or commando pro, depending on how badly i want to jump off buildings
ANYWAY, i can go on and on about gun theory in this game but it basically comes down to this rifles: famas > m16 (same damage, faster fire rate,) ACR is zero recoil rape machine, but kills in 3-5 hits instead of 2-3 like famas or TAR > SCAR (same damage, faster fire rate, bigger clip, worse recoil, but you can man up and learn to burst properly) m4, ak, FAL, F2000, basically all the other rifles are shit because there are better guns. best smg = UMP hands down best scope = barrett best lmg = RPD > AUG (2hits, 100 ammo clip vs. AUG's tiny clip best shotgun = akimbo fmj model 1887 >:D! best pistol = magnum (deagle's recoil rapes your screen and they do essentially the same damage) best machine pistol = single tmp, or akimbo g18 launchers are all for fags unless you need to shoot down a chopper gunner with a stinger