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On January 12 2012 07:40 JJoNeEightY wrote: I met a girl today who collects ketchup packets.
I feel the need to share this all with you here.
My Mum used to do that. Then when we went to the seaside, and got fish and chips.. We had some ketchup to use.
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She wants to write a book about condiments.
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She sounds like a fantastic lady.
What's with the new banner?
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I don't know, but I like that too.
Did you know that that thing the horses are doing where they pull their gums back is actually a sign of sexual arousal? I think, I have this in my head from somewhere but I'm not actually sure if its true or not.
Trying to find wikipedia link but I forgot what the hell its called and searching for anything with 'teeth' or 'gums' gets like a billion results for dentists trying to sell me things.
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I did not know that. How's everything down south going for you guys anyway?
Edit: Bit stupid.
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I laughed, don't take yourself so SERIOUSLY.
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Hyrule18968 Posts
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On January 12 2012 09:00 JJoNeEightY wrote: I laughed, don't take yourself so SERIOUSLY.
I wasn't sure if it was against the TL Guidelines or such! Why couldn't it be the Pink and Blue one?
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I have a quick question. I've been considering trying this game out for some time, but I know I won't be able to pay a subscription, so I was wondering, what kind of time commitment does it take to keep an account subscribed using plex (in addition to all the time spent in PvP)?
I imagine that time commitment would go down some as you become better and learn to make money more efficiently, but for a complete noob, what would you expect? Also, say in some month I am unable to afford a plex, does that just mean I am locked out of my account and have to start over, or is there some way to get it back on track?
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On January 12 2012 11:28 Iceman331 wrote: I have a quick question. I've been considering trying this game out for some time, but I know I won't be able to pay a subscription, so I was wondering, what kind of time commitment does it take to keep an account subscribed using plex (in addition to all the time spent in PvP)?
I imagine that time commitment would go down some as you become better and learn to make money more efficiently, but for a complete noob, what would you expect? Also, say in some month I am unable to afford a plex, does that just mean I am locked out of my account and have to start over, or is there some way to get it back on track?
You are pretty much spot on in your assesment. As you play more, you get the ability to earn more income in less time. If you are going to leave for a while (and you know it in advance) you can make arrangements to keep your account going during said time. There is a feature (that is allowed by the eula and is described in the character bizaar) where you can transfer your account to another person.
So you shouldn't have any difficulty finding someone in the Team Liquid Alliance willing to keep your account active and training should RL issues arise. Also, if your game time runs out, you can get "4 hours to plex" time added to your account. Typically, a member of our alliance who is active and genuinly trying to improve will be able to secure loans of in game money (ISK) in order to plex. Everyone has to borrow money sometimes so don't be shy if you need the help.
Also, after you play the game for about 2 to 3 months you should be able to earn enough in game money to keep 2 accounts plexed in a weekend (depending on how well you multibox and how fast you run missions).
Hope this helps!
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Awesome thanks. I think I'm gonna try to start up sometime next week once I'm back into a normal class routine. Looking forward to it.
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Hey fellow TLer of the corporate, is this game worth to pick up or am I WAAAAY too late?
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On January 12 2012 13:04 Xiphos wrote: Hey fellow TLer of the corporate, is this game worth to pick up or am I WAAAAY too late? It's not like WoW where all the good guilds run the higher dungeons and it's hard for newer players to get loot.
It's almost a copy of real world economics where 99% of the players are poor, and a few players basically own everything.
Edit: Accidentally a singular
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On January 12 2012 13:07 Body_Shield wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2012 13:04 Xiphos wrote: Hey fellow TLer of the corporate, is this game worth to pick up or am I WAAAAY too late? It's not like WoW where all the good guilds run the higher dungeons and it's hard for newer players to get loot. It's almost a copy of real world economics where 99% of the players are poor, and a few players basically own everything. Edit: Accidentally a singular
And I'm guessing that you have to play for years in order to achieve the 1%?
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Not really, making enough isk to plex is never the problem. There are plenty of ways to make isk in the game, but there are few people who actually know how to make large amounts of isk. For example, it is entirely possible to make over 1 billion isk a day after a few months of playing if you know what your doing, and for most of eve, this is a staggeringly high number.
Then you put that in perspective of the people in the hatchery who consider 1 billion a day 'low'. Then again people like kwark have the networking and ability to make redicioulous amounts of money, to the extent that anything under 1 billion isnt really considred an amount worth caring about under most circumstances.
To get to such high levels of income does take time yes, but being able to plex and even making over 1 billion isk a day doesnt take long at all. You have everyone in the TL alliance to help you out along the way too, which is a pretty nice thing to have.
For the record: the largest amount of isk I made when I semidedicated (This involved me being mostly inattentive and generally busy completeing a book of word searchs) myself to gaining it a while ago was about 4.5 billion over a weekend. So 2,25 billion isk a day. If I put more effort in I could easily make around that number on average every weekend (when I actually have time to play eve and not just derp around for a couple hours).
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I'd like to take a minute to clear a few things up for new people. A lot of people who start out in eve are in for a culture shock. This game is not only incredibly complex, but incredibly unforgiving.
The people who have risen to the top, did so by being tough, thick skinned, and cruel. This is EVE, not WOW, not Mario Party, not any other noob friendly, hold your hand game. If you want swimming lessons go play another game, because in EVE and in the Hatchery, we are going to throw you into the deep end of the pool. If you start whining and complaining, "save me, save me, this is unfair" a bunch of people are going piss on your face when you come up for air, and laugh as you drown.
In EVE you will be punished severely for your mistakes by the games mechanics. When you do moronic things while flying with people that could possibly get them killed, you will get an ear full. If your feelings are going to get hurt when 1. people call you an idiot, 2. blast you for not thinking more than 1 step ahead of what was happening, 3. they ask you if you're "completely fucking retarded" because you have zero situational awareness, you will not make in this game or in our corp.
Hatchery has some of the best pilots and financial masterminds in all of EVE. They are only willing to help you, if you put forth the effort to help yourself. If you are willing to fuck up, take an ear full, learn from it and keep flying you could do well. If you will take just 5 minutes to look something up BEFORE asking for the answer to be handed to you, you may do well. If you aren't willing to take time to READ the information that has been provided and easily available with google, people will not bother trying to help you. No one is going to hold your hand and spoon feed you. Some will be more patient than others, some will be very rude. Deal with it. Wipe your own ass, we don't provide diapers.
This isn't preschool
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The weak, the timid, the non-resilient, and the stupid will perish. No one will even flinch in remorse. Little kids don't play this game, it's too hard and takes too much dedication. I've yet to meet anyone in this game who wasn't at least 17. The vast majority of people who play eve are mid 20's college students. This game takes brains, patience, fortitude and attitude at the right times for the right reasons.
Try to realize that because of how unforgiving eve is and because of how sharp the learning curve is, the vast majority of people just give up after just 1 or 2 weeks. So if you try EVE and get the impressions that everyone is a major dick. This post will hopefully provide some context (if you even bothered to read it)
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/odd5T.jpg)
However, if you do have thick skin, if you are mentally tough, if you do listen to critisism (even when they are dicks about it) and keep going, keep learning, keep improving, keep researching, and keep asking the right questions ( the right question is something you have already looked up and still don't get), you will find that the hatchery is fucking awesome.
You will fly in fleets outnumbered 4 to 1 and crush your opponents. You will have more isk than you can keep track of, and you will have a great time tasting the delicious tears of the weak. You will learn more about this game in a few months than most of it's players have learned in years. Most of all you will make some great friends, spend a lot of timing laughing till you cry, and stand with those who were forged in fire and emerged as steel.
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Nice post but seriously the only major dicks are Kwark VoV and tofu :>
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Also, to put some numbers in perspective. Right now the average price for a PLEX (30 days game time) is about 450m so earning 1b a day you can stay playing for a very long time.
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and i can guarantee you (new guys) that after a week playing (if you cope with the aforementioned dicks) you are nor going to be the worse pilot on corp
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On January 12 2012 13:40 Viceorvirtue wrote: Not really, making enough isk to plex is never the problem. There are plenty of ways to make isk in the game, but there are few people who actually know how to make large amounts of isk. For example, it is entirely possible to make over 1 billion isk a day after a few months of playing if you know what your doing, and for most of eve, this is a staggeringly high number.
Then you put that in perspective of the people in the hatchery who consider 1 billion a day 'low'. Then again people like kwark have the networking and ability to make redicioulous amounts of money, to the extent that anything under 1 billion isnt really considred an amount worth caring about under most circumstances.
To get to such high levels of income does take time yes, but being able to plex and even making over 1 billion isk a day doesnt take long at all. You have everyone in the TL alliance to help you out along the way too, which is a pretty nice thing to have.
For the record: the largest amount of isk I made when I semidedicated (This involved me being mostly inattentive and generally busy completeing a book of word searchs) myself to gaining it a while ago was about 4.5 billion over a weekend. So 2,25 billion isk a day. If I put more effort in I could easily make around that number on average every weekend (when I actually have time to play eve and not just derp around for a couple hours).
Im poor only make 350m a day for 30mins of work
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