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On December 07 2011 01:25 DefMatrixUltra wrote:




[1] These changes are all fairly big and actually do work to fix the problems the Dramiel presented.

The worst thing about the pre-nerf Dram was its acceleration (imo). It had about 75% of the mass of pretty much every frigate in the game. This gave it a retarded edge in terms of changing direction (suddenly zooming towards or away from something, turning on a dime etc.) and in terms of "solo" frigate PvP allowed it to run from any fight it didn't like with pretty much 100% success rate. Now that its mass is in line with other frigates it more or less doesn't have this problem.

The velocity nerf is the same idea. Its ability to gain distance or close distance is just being put in line with other fast frigates (like interceptors).

The second worst thing was its free sebo. It's not at all "fair" or balanced or sensible to have a badass battle-fit Dramiel be as good at camping a bubbled gate as a seboed interceptor. Hence the scan res nerf.

The fitting nerf is kind of a "fuck you" to Dramiels everywhere which I don't mind. Makes it harder to fit modules like Damage Control II or a rocket launcher etc.

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Overall, I think the Dramiel is in a "good" spot now and is not automatically the go-to frigate for everything, must be more or less sensibly fit etc. Before it was basically a Firetail x10, but now I think it's more like a Firetail's expensive big brother - in other words it's a Super-Rifter.

[2] The main problem with the Cruor is its cost. Not only is the hull fairly expensive, but it's really really limited by its slot layout (fewer slots than it "needs"). In other words, you need some serious cashflow to stuff it full of faction items to make it shine.

The other issue is its role confusion. In terms of frigate PvP, the Cruor is supposed to be a super-mega-anti-kiting ship. But it has to be armor-tanked, and, more likely than not, plated. This puts it at a big disadvantage against good kiting ships like longpoint Wolves and Slicers.

Against targets that fight in scram range, it doesn't have the same brawly DPS output. You need to stay at max scram range without losing your point. This is made easier by your sick webs, but it still is not easy. In addition, every km closer that your enemy gets, the more likely he is to out-damage you and win the damage war (especially autocannon users).

The tiny DPS you have is not suitable for attacking larger targets like cruisers and battlecruisers and means you want to avoid t2 Minmatar ships like Wolves and Jags.

The only ships I think it would really excel against are active-tanked ships like the Vengeance, but even there you don't shut down their weapon systems (rockets).