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airtown
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States410 Posts
June 16 2010 16:45 GMT
#1461
Ok. I just made a muninn fit that actualy uses 425s, but still tracks at 0.26. Whats the tracking of your vagabond?
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/northwoods.pdf
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-16 16:57:49
June 16 2010 16:57 GMT
#1462
On June 17 2010 01:45 4iner wrote:
Ok. I just made a muninn fit that actualy uses 425s, but still tracks at 0.26. Whats the tracking of your vagabond?


God I do not know off hand, I'll check later on when I log on.

Most of my gunnery support is at 5 and HAC is at level 4 for comparisons sake not that this matters because the vagabond doesn't get a tracking bonus.
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-16 23:08:08
June 16 2010 17:47 GMT
#1463
I will be bestowing whatever knowledge I have about contracts and how to make isk off of them this Sunday afternoon at 18:00 EST, or 7:00 KST on Monday (i made a time change from an earlier version of this post). I'll also be talking about the market.

Also I am quitting EVE because I won. The reimbursement fund had better last longer this time. I mean, I am putting in 3.5b this time.
ModeratorGood content always wins.
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-16 18:07:28
June 16 2010 18:06 GMT
#1464
On June 17 2010 02:47 motbob wrote:
I will be bestowing whatever knowledge I have about contracts and how to make isk off of them this Saturday afternoon at 18:00 EST, or 7:00 KST on Sunday. I'll also be talking about the market.

Also I am quitting EVE because I won. The reimbursement fund had better last longer this time. I mean, I am putting in 3.5b this time.


You shouldn't quit until you can self fund a Titan.

Fully fitted mind you! also I will definitely be there, my lack of market knowledge in this game besides how much something is worth on paper has always bugged me. It's the only facet of the game I never bothered to learn.
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
airtown
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States410 Posts
June 16 2010 18:27 GMT
#1465
Would it be a good idea to start a faction/deadspace module shop? Charge slightly higher prices in return for making it convenient for the buyer, as they don't have to look through all the sell orders on the forums and the contracts (at a time when there might not be anyone selling what they want.)
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/northwoods.pdf
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
June 16 2010 18:44 GMT
#1466
On June 17 2010 03:27 4iner wrote:
Would it be a good idea to start a faction/deadspace module shop? Charge slightly higher prices in return for making it convenient for the buyer, as they don't have to look through all the sell orders on the forums and the contracts (at a time when there might not be anyone selling what they want.)


You would need an awful lot of capital to start such a venture and on top of that how do you plan on getting your shop out into the open?

By a lot of capital im talking like a billion isk or so AT LEAST.
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
bN`
Profile Joined May 2009
Slovenia504 Posts
June 16 2010 18:53 GMT
#1467
I will be bestowing whatever knowledge I have about contracts and how to make isk off of them this Saturday afternoon at 18:00 EST, or 7:00 KST on Sunday. I'll also be talking about the market.

Also I am quitting EVE because I won. The reimbursement fund had better last longer this time. I mean, I am putting in 3.5b this time.


Looks like it's corp theft time!
"It's just a ride." - Bill Hicks
WiljushkA
Profile Joined March 2006
Serbia1416 Posts
June 16 2010 19:31 GMT
#1468
no, it's my turn
"As much as I love the image of me F5-ing paypal every 15 minutes while fist pumping and screaming "SHIP THE MONEY BITCHES"" - Day9
TheAdmiral714
Profile Joined January 2009
United States7 Posts
June 16 2010 19:36 GMT
#1469
downoading it now any guides or tips ?
fail fleet
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
June 16 2010 20:01 GMT
#1470
BTW if i totally renege on my vow to leave, don't be surprised. I might get the spark back while I liquidate my assets.
ModeratorGood content always wins.
SWPIGWANG
Profile Joined June 2008
Canada482 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-16 22:14:02
June 16 2010 22:13 GMT
#1471
Want to kill frigates? How about armor tanking with dual webs? Or fit some neuts? Non-moving frig = dead frig. Or just fly caracal....

-----
A question to the vets. Minimatar or Amarr? Or, the most important questions to me: Just how does the Gedon, Apoc, and Baddon compared with with phoon, pest, and mael? I know that they are different ships, but lets say you are a FC and would you rather have another Gedon or Phoon in your RR BS gang, and apoc or pest in your snipe fleet? I always wonder if the extra 50km of optimal makes the apoc a much superior snipe ship than pest despite the alpha difference, at least when the fleet is homogeneous enough to use that advantage.
WiljushkA
Profile Joined March 2006
Serbia1416 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-16 23:07:44
June 16 2010 23:07 GMT
#1472
they're both good but for different things, but both have uses in both 0.0 and piracy warfare.
just go with whatever you feel is "awesomer"
"As much as I love the image of me F5-ing paypal every 15 minutes while fist pumping and screaming "SHIP THE MONEY BITCHES"" - Day9
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
June 16 2010 23:08 GMT
#1473
I just found out that I've got something to do on Saturday, so Motbob's Get Rich Seminar will be on Sunday, 18:00 EST
ModeratorGood content always wins.
pahndah
Profile Joined August 2009
1193 Posts
June 16 2010 23:14 GMT
#1474
Amarr BS > Minmatar BS in any type of Snipe fleet mainly due to pulsepoc at ~100km ranges, and aurora > tremor at 180km. Alpha is only good IF you can ensure you one shot the primary, otherwise the long cycle time means the target will get reps before your second volley. Once you lose enough ships in the brawl though that you can no longer one volley stuff, you're in trouble. So considering Amarr does a significant amount of more snipe DPS over minmatar, Apocs and Geddons are preferred. No such thing as a snipe viable snipe phoon, and baddons are subpar compared to apocs for sniping
bN`
Profile Joined May 2009
Slovenia504 Posts
June 16 2010 23:18 GMT
#1475
A question to the vets. Minimatar or Amarr? Or, the most important questions to me: Just how does the Gedon, Apoc, and Baddon compared with with phoon, pest, and mael? I know that they are different ships, but lets say you are a FC and would you rather have another Gedon or Phoon in your RR BS gang, and apoc or pest in your snipe fleet? I always wonder if the extra 50km of optimal makes the apoc a much superior snipe ship than pest despite the alpha difference, at least when the fleet is homogeneous enough to use that advantage.


Amarr battleships are really the best battleships in the game. Yes minnie has caught up a bit with the aplha buff on arties and the need for less tank on BS's because of dominion DD change, but all in all Amarr BS's are mindblowingly good.
High number or low and hi slots, great cap, nice drone bays, not to mention lasers are incredible for various reasons like: instant reload(change of optimal), which takes 10s in a Minmatar bs, also T2 laser crystalls are estimated at 5k shots before breaking, you need to reload a 1400mm arty after 20rounds IIRC.

RR BS Geddon and Apoc shine. Geddon because of the utility high slot and 8lows, Apoc because of either the option of going 85km range WITH PULSE LASERS, or going for well over 150 with Tachyons. Vil actually spend a while on the test server with daedali's account jsut shooting people from 200km away and watching them die after burnign 100km towards him : >

Still minnie bs's are not to be underestimated. Alpha is the main plus really. Imagine syncing up 30maelstroms to all fire at 1 target at the same time. It goes boom, sadly this is not an easy task.



Solo flying I'd have to say it depends on what's your style. Minnie can be either flow as a in your face brawler with mwd armor tank and emp. Or you can go with a light shield tank and nanoes, dictating range via hispeed and dual heavy neuts which alpha the cap of any cruiser. All the while doing damage at a quite high range with T2 AC's and barrage. This is mostly reffering to the tempest. Mukk Barovian from GC is awesome flying a shield Tempest.

Typhoon is a great ship especially with the buff to 5/5 slot layout for weapons. Either way you get 175m3 of dronebay, 3 utility high's and 7low slots for a sick armor tank. Plated typhoon is really a great lowsec ship. You could also try a shield tanked phoon, since it has the best agility of a nonfaction BS, with the idea of dictating range but your tank is going to be almost paper thin.

On the other hand Amarr BS's are great solo ships for lowsec. I particularly like the geddon mostly because I've watched to many kil2 videos. Cheap ship, slot for a heavy neut, with T2 lasers can reach up to 44km optimal, flight of heavy drones and a mean buffer make it one hell of a ship.

Abaddon is pretty sick too with 200k + EHP tank and 8 turret slots, only problem is you can cap yourself out really fast if you go for a active tank and mega pulses.

Hope this helps.
"It's just a ride." - Bill Hicks
pahndah
Profile Joined August 2009
1193 Posts
June 16 2010 23:23 GMT
#1476
^No idea what he is talking about.
UmmTheHobo
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States650 Posts
June 16 2010 23:41 GMT
#1477
I have been offered these great ships at a discount price

1 x Typhoon Fleet Issue @ 315 mil.
2 x Stabber Fleet Issue Issue @ 60 mil each.

unfortunately I have like 2 million isk, I need a jumpstart so I can buy these and sell them higher on market, I will repay my benefactor generously

Ingame name is Suisekii

Motbob? I know this is chump change for you, but wanna help a brotha out?
...
pahndah
Profile Joined August 2009
1193 Posts
June 16 2010 23:44 GMT
#1478
On June 17 2010 02:47 motbob wrote:
I will be bestowing whatever knowledge I have about contracts and how to make isk off of them this Sunday afternoon at 18:00 EST, or 7:00 KST on Monday (i made a time change from an earlier version of this post). I'll also be talking about the market.

Also I am quitting EVE because I won. The reimbursement fund had better last longer this time. I mean, I am putting in 3.5b this time.


A good portion of the fund went towards paying alliance sov fees, and the "Corp" JF. Don't worry we'll keep it safe!
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
June 16 2010 23:44 GMT
#1479
Actually I consider a tempest one of the top RR BS, especially as gang size gets bigger. As the gang size gets bigger the DPS means less and less while the alpha strike means more and more.

Tempest is one of the very very FEW bs(only?) that can fit 2 RR reps and still fit it's full complement of guns. With BS level 5 it has 7.5 effective turrets anyway. Tech 2 artillery is not to be discounted. A Tempest will fire out to 200km with 1200's with only ONE optimal module on your ship. If you build it for sniping you will have no issue. If you're sniping though a maelstrom is better...the tempest shines in RR BS groups really. The tempest is also an excellent "oversized BC." It's really the only battleship that doesn't fly like an absolute brick and fitting it like a large vagabond can make a beast of a small gang ship.

The Maelstrom is a good sniper but I don't think it'll really compare to an Apoc over all. Tachyons are just...better than 1400's. I would take a Tempest over either RR Amarr BS as the gang size gets bigger.

The Typhoon is...a fucking beast? That's about all I can say about it. It's probably the best solo pvp/brawler battleship in the game. It has immense DPS capabilities and has an effective 40km kill zone around a gate. I would NOT take on a typhoon solo in anything other than a typhoon, the things are insane. The problem with a typhoon and why their reputation isn't what it should be is because it takes a stupid amount of skill in both points and piloting to make it effective. You need tech 2 large guns, tech 2 torpedos, most gunnery support to level 5, most missile support to level 5, tech 2 drones, high armor skills, high engineering/energy vamp skills...but once you have those it's a god damn killing machine. We're talking like 1300 DPS with 110k EHP here. Or if you prefer you can have a neutralizer variant that rapes anything smaller than a BS with complete impunity.

The Maelstrom is actually pretty damn good in the AC range as well because it just tanks so well with an XL Booster/Cap Booster.
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
WhiteWolfORB
Profile Joined May 2010
16 Posts
June 17 2010 05:08 GMT
#1480
First off, Eve is the best MMO of all time.

That said, I require all talk of it on TL to be banned from this day forth.

I cannot afford to reactivate my three accounts again, don't do this to me, please.... really!









Damn you all, damn you all to the depths of hell and back.





Damn it.
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