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PainBall
Sweden111 Posts
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Jayme
United States5866 Posts
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kuresuti
1393 Posts
On June 14 2010 14:29 s_side wrote: Couple points of business: 1. Kizu is now official fitting tzar. Although he's a wildly antisocial hermit, his fits make me hot. 2. I love that we're getting some new blood, but the next person who utters the phrase "faction fit rifter" is getting blacklisted =p 3. Anyone who brings a bomber to anything but a bomber fleet will be booted from corp. This is a policy which has been discussed with all of the alliance FCs and one that I wholeheartedly agree with. 4. Anyone who gets tackled (regardless of whether you get out or pop) in a carrier while ratting is automatically booted from corp. Alliance CEO instituted this rule a few months back and I fully support it. It's selfish and goofy to rat in your fucking carrier to begin with, but it's not acceptable to have alliance mates risking their ships to bail you out. 5. Drakes aren't one of the most fielded ships in the game because of their spectacular DPS. TL;DR: If you mess up our killboard you gets the boot, because that's what matters. | ||
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pahndah
1193 Posts
Real TLDR: Don't rat with a carrier unless you know what you're doing, and no faction fit rifters kthxbai. | ||
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Jayme
United States5866 Posts
On June 14 2010 17:20 pahndah wrote: Not really, you would have to lose a lot of ships to screw up our kill board. I don't think we've ever booted anyone for failing all over the killboard. Real TLDR: Don't rat with a carrier unless you know what you're doing, and no faction fit rifters kthxbai. wait wait wait.... No faction fit rifters?! WHY? It sounds totally reasonable to put about 100 mil worth of isk on a rifter | ||
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WiljushkA
Serbia1416 Posts
On June 14 2010 10:30 SWPIGWANG wrote: A pimped rifter gets 206 dps with republican gyros A pimped rifter gets 206 dps pimped rifter holy shit On June 14 2010 17:12 kuresuti wrote: TL;DR: If you mess up our killboard you gets the boot, because that's what matters. not really, more like if youre retarded you get the boot. and if you manage to do the above stuff that gordon mentioned, its pretty sure youre retarded. | ||
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kuresuti
1393 Posts
Does that sound reasonable to you? Seriously lighten up, it's a game >_> | ||
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WiljushkA
Serbia1416 Posts
you have to come in at the range of 50 if you dont want to die as soon as someone looks at you funny. even so youre still very vulnerable, and at that range everything will die before your torps get there. but i really shouldnt have to spell it all out like this, i thought this was common knowledge. and starcraft is also "only a game" but we're all pretty fucking serious about it  | ||
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kuresuti
1393 Posts
Any extra member in a blob helps. I don't know how you roll in GC, but numbers count, any capable FC knows that. | ||
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bN`
Slovenia504 Posts
So you are saying bombers suck? What about bomber fleets? Those must suck pretty bad when 30 bombers goes down just by looking at them :S Any extra member in a blob helps. I don't know how you roll in GC, but numbers count, any capable FC knows that. Actually bombers in non bomber fleets do suck and no not every extra member in a blob helps. Someone bringing a bomber to a BC fleet is like saying "HAI GUYS CAN I TAG ALONG AND GET ON AWESOME KILLMAILS?". If you and your friends wanna go around flying 5 random ships ganking people that try to fly solo or something that's fine. But when the fc calls for a specific fleet setup he expects people to bring the correct ships, fitted correctly so you can actually go and win some cool fights like beating a 50man cva blob with 25people or anything similar. Yes it is a game and the people that play it make the rules. Unless you want to start fcing random fleets be my guest. And also, bombers are good for bombing BS blobs and drone blobs that carries drop. Other than that... OH wait yes bombers are good if your name is duck dodgers and you like camping a gate with 20stealthy ships. That's about it. | ||
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WiljushkA
Serbia1416 Posts
nobody said anything about bomber fleets in general. gordon excplicitly said "Anyone who brings a bomber to anything but a bomber fleet". dont try to spin things to suit you. also that argument you used only shows how ignorant you are. bomber fleets do not engage. they decloak, drop bombs, and warp away immediately, thats why they dont die immediately. kinda hard to do that in a regular fleet, since it will often mean youre also bombing your own guys. bottom line is: an extra member doesnt help if hes in a wrong ship. it hurts more than helps. it will just give the fc the wrong impression about the fleets efficiency. you have a 50 man drake blob, and 5 guys are in stealth bombers, 5 guys in some random armortanked shit thats useless if you only have shield logi (which you will for drakes), and theres always the odd idiot in a closerange diemost. a moron here or there will also have a completely wrong fit. suddenly you cant engage stuff that you could if you had theme ships, but fc doesnt know and people die. thats why, if youre coming on a roam, at least make some effort and bring the correct type of ship. | ||
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kuresuti
1393 Posts
Let's discuss something else shall we EDIT: Not trying to be an ass, you have some valid points, but it's not always like that. I would never turn down a competent whatever pilot unless I am running some specific setup (which generally means it's not the classic "blob" which I was talking about) Also, I've learned from past experiences that it's useless to argue alone versus 2 or more people, so I'll just stop here. | ||
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WiljushkA
Serbia1416 Posts
you in scbw, whats your eve name? | ||
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kuresuti
1393 Posts
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WiljushkA
Serbia1416 Posts
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kuresuti
1393 Posts
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Jayme
United States5866 Posts
On June 14 2010 22:13 kuresuti wrote: <TL;DR No matter what you say kuresuti, it's like this.> x2 Let's discuss something else shall we EDIT: Not trying to be an ass, you have some valid points, but it's not always like that. I would never turn down a competent whatever pilot unless I am running some specific setup (which generally means it's not the classic "blob" which I was talking about) Also, I've learned from past experiences that it's useless to argue alone versus 2 or more people, so I'll just stop here. Why...why do people say things like this? If you think you're right for the love of god defend yourself. I personally don't care if I'm arguing with 2 people or 200 people. Provide some evidence to back up what you say and then back down when/if that gets picked apart. Even the most stubborn of people know when they are wrong. I'll try to point out why the only time a bomber is useful only in a bomber fleet. It's actually really simple. I look for bombers specifically, I will constantly scan my overview for a little frigate shaped box that's a good distance away. I always scan for those Nemesis/Purifiers that like to sit at 30km or whatever in a group that wasn't meant for them. I do this because I can one volley a stealth bomber in my Muninn from 20km-100km... 7 second cycle to kill a glass cannon? Absolutely. Bomber fleets rely on a swarm tactic to protect themselves. They decloak, launch their bombs, and then gtfo. It serves to make the enemy FC panic sometimes and if you do it well it's the best way to kill an RR BS blob.... if the bomber is a lone though there is no point to having any at all. All that and bombers are rarely killed in that format because the bombing run is just so sudden. Bombers have too much DPS to allow to live if it only takes you a target change to kill them. | ||
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UmmTheHobo
United States650 Posts
For some reason I love mining, and I might get back into eve (I played for like a month) since I know team liquidians are awesome and would make a great corporation in eve! | ||
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bN`
Slovenia504 Posts
Hope this answers your question. Did I mention no mining operations? | ||
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UmmTheHobo
United States650 Posts
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