EPTYou can be flying a mission ready maelstrom in 2 weeks. A drake takes way less.
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DiracMonopole
United States1555 Posts
You can be flying a mission ready maelstrom in 2 weeks. A drake takes way less. | ||
tofucake
Hyrule19188 Posts
Not hard. | ||
Firebolt145
Lalalaland34499 Posts
On May 04 2011 04:19 DiracMonopole wrote: You can be flying a mission ready maelstrom in 2 weeks. A drake takes way less. 2-3 weeks yes. 2-3 days no. In fact I think someone in the hatch (forgot his name, started with A) managed to start doing lvl4's in a full t1 mael within 1 week | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
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Body_Shield
Canada3368 Posts
All this stuff is in the OP | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On May 04 2011 04:40 Body_Shield wrote: Drakes are the slowest in speed and agility of the three battlecruiser hulls. Kwark's Fleet minimum is level 4 in all applicable Navigation skills, and level 5 in Navigation. All this stuff is in the OP Did you actually hear the conversation I'm referencing in TS last night? The question wasn't the "standard" minimum, but rather, the "this shit may just hit the fan and an MSE Merlin may be worse than a sub-par Drake" minimum. As in, at what point does a below normal standards Drake not become a liability when things are atypical. | ||
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tofucake
Hyrule19188 Posts
On May 04 2011 04:37 JingleHell wrote: So, if I was willing to risk partially skilled nano drakes in PvP, what would be the DPS/EHP/Speed minimums to not be a liability, if I could find a fit? Since there was the discussion yesterday about opening options vs not giving enough information? T2 tank (if you can fit, T2 LSE is hard to fit on the Drake we fly) T2 weapons T2 lows T2 drones Missile Nav 5 High Speed Maneuvering 3 Spaceship Command 4 Evasive Maneuvering 4 Battlecruisers 4 Missile supports 4 | ||
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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34499 Posts
Nav, accel control, evasive man all at IV Heavy missile spec III/IV Guided missile precision, missile bombardment, missile projection, rapid launch, target navigation prediction, warhead upgrades all at minimum III quickly heading to IV Shield management, shield operation at IV Battlecruiser IV Of course it also depends on your piloting skill. If you're good you might be allowed to fly it earlier (with some less vital skills at III) whereas if you're losing ships all the time you may find yourself in a Caracal more often.  | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On May 04 2011 04:45 tofucake wrote: T2 tank (if you can fit, T2 LSE is hard to fit on the Drake we fly) T2 weapons T2 lows T2 drones Missile Nav 5 High Speed Maneuvering 3 Spaceship Command 4 Evasive Maneuvering 4 Battlecruisers 4 Missile supports 4 That's the normal minimum that I'm training on now. The main things I can't do are T2 Weapons and Drones, and my missile supports are mostly 3s in the ones accessible before T2 missiles. I was more asking about what sort of numbers on a drake, between EHP/DPS/Speed would at least be more useful than an MSE Merlin in an abnormal situation. Edit: And I guess I shoulda specified I was hoping for an answer from KwarK, since it'll be his call most of the time, and I already know the "normal" answer. | ||
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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34499 Posts
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Cilien
United States117 Posts
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
I was hoping for something fitting that context, as opposed to the usual standard, which, like I said, is all plugged into EveMon. Simple Version: Merlin=Boring. Crosstraining=Time away from Drake Training. Want more interesting option for PvP than Merlin. | ||
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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34499 Posts
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On May 04 2011 05:21 Firebolt145 wrote: Blackbird Speaking of excitement and joy... oh funsies. Sit at 110k+ and make things not shoot. | ||
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TurpinOS
Canada1223 Posts
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tofucake
Hyrule19188 Posts
On May 04 2011 05:25 JingleHell wrote: Speaking of excitement and joy... oh funsies. Sit at 110k+ and make things not shoot. Take a Rifter -> go solo | ||
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bN`
Slovenia504 Posts
Simple Version: Merlin=Boring Simple version: You = wrong Merlin is a fine ship and does excellently in frig duels. Properfly flown and fit will give most inties a run for their money | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On May 04 2011 05:52 bN` wrote: Simple version: You = wrong Merlin is a fine ship and does excellently in frig duels. Properfly flown and fit will give most inties a run for their money Simple version: Boring=Subjective Translation: Don't tell me my opinion is wrong, or that just makes you an ass, and possibly dumb, and those two don't combine into something you want to be. | ||
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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34499 Posts
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Torenhire
United States11681 Posts
Flying a Rifter / Merlin certainly isn't the most exciting thing in the world, but it's part of the learning process. It's also a necessity. So you until you have put your time in (combined training + confirming you're not a HERP DERP pilot) you'll play hero tackle. Like I am. :p Besides, if we weren't around, Kwark wouldn't have anyone to sacrifice to save himself. Think of yourself as part of the greater good. | ||
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