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On May 02 2011 09:41 TurpinOS wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2011 08:20 abominare wrote: Hey look another argument over ships in the tl eve thread.
Where one sides assumes the hatchery should drop the nano-escapades and expand ships types, without actually being in the hatchery.
While the hatchery refuses to acknowledge that ships beyond rifter cane drake exist.
What a lot of people fail to realize is that the boast of being 100 members strong on the first page is a bit of a misnomer, the hatchery from what i notice tends to have 10-15 guys including alts on at peak times. The majority in suicide frigs the rest in drakes and canes and the occasional harb.
Sure theres a couple guys with almost a year of sp but player turnover in the hatchery is pretty high. So when youre stuck out in lowsec, and a particularly busy part at that with only a couple of guys with sp, you nano end of story other ships that cant nano cease to exist.
hacs, thorax, other armor ships, battleships all have their places in this game but not in the hatchery they dont have the numbers or sp to accomplish much else but ill be damned if they dont abuse the hell out of nano and no one should knock them for what they get done.
Thats not all of it, I really love my garmon rupture and my armor cane, but the fact of the matter is if I go gank a belt-ratting cane in my shield cane, I will get the kill for sure if he ends up being a bad, and if hes bait I will manage to get out (most of the time). On the other hand, If I go for that same cane in my armor cane, I will again get that same kill if its a bad but ill lose my cane if he blobs. Now, this by itself is not that big of a problem, and ive been one of those in the hatch who loves brawling ships the most, but when you apply that principle to a gang, and on top of that your gang are brand new players which only have the option to train for one type of ship (well they can always branch out but branching out before you can properly fit a t2 bc means you wont be flying much more then frigs for a long time), shield nano ships become the best options. Also, Im a true believer that armor gangs can be some of the greatest fleets (guardians + webbing lokis + armorhacs for small gang pvp is bossmode), and to that extent im not one to totally disregard armor ships like some of the hatch members (I mean, theres other limitations to doing that, but still...). My big problem with this discussion is the backing up behind blaster boats. I love armor ships, I believe they have a purpose, but I seriously believe there is something incredibly wrong with blasters. Either you go with an armor blaster, which, due to the way armor works, makes your ship too slow in any situation where you are not outnumbering/out-sping/out-supporting your ennemies, or you go with a shield-blaster, which, even though are awesome for the nice dps number in your EFT, go a bit against the purpose of using shield ships which is to trade out EHP for speed and agility (and you basically ram the guy and stop moving if you go shield blaster). tldr ccp are bad and its known that blasters need to be rebalanced, (small are good, medium and large are the problem)
Of course blasters are broken as shit on the heavier platforms, and frigs are borderline fine, however for whats its worth if youre bored and want to brawl and armor thorax is highly amusing.
Its like a small glimmer of hope as if ccp decided to buff gallente speed. Would i used it instead of nano for hatchery fleets, nope but there is fun in toying around with other stuff you wouldnt normally play. Besides the damn thing is nearly free after insurance anyways.
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Except for the part where the rigs cost more than the ship itself T_T. But this is true for all T1 ships.
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just found the joy of browsing trough people's hangars
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Short story:
TurpinOS is right for the first time in history, medium & large blasters aren't quite up to par for all but a couple applications.
You guys seem content to continue in fixed and predictable tactics and engaging whatever flies in front of you just because you can, and engaging unwisely is the name of the game for you. That can be fun too I guess.
Long story:
I CBA to write it all out TBH
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Shouldn't the short story and long story headers be swapped in position?
Join the SCBW channel like me mumbles and you too can make fun of them/express your distaste towards the way they fly with me instead of doing this constant passive/aggressive attack the poster personally while ignoring the relevant issue at hand ploy.
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I think I may put some time in the coming week towards updating the op significantly.
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You probably don't want to open this.
You have been warned.
+ Show Spoiler +I proudly present to you - Aeth Gemulus' Eve-Weekend: A Tragedy in 6 parts Let us being with the gut-wrenching tale of Rupture Loss #1: Assailants- Suleimann Shouaa + Angel Crusher + Connor Oberst So I haven't really decided if I want to go full piratey-outlaw-negativetenpointoh-badass or just part time pirate with preserved security status yet, and as such, when there isn't any player vs player action to be had, I have recently taken up floating between belts looking for npc battleship pirates to kill. This is not the most exciting or engaging activity in the world, and as such my attention drifts. Checking email, browsing forums, watching stupid youtube videos (more on this later), and listening to music (more on this shortly), etc, etc, etc. As such, in the early hours of Sunday, May 1st, our hero was found on an asteroid belt engaged in battle with previously mentioned Angel Crusher, when suddenly, thanks to the random shuffle feature he was employing in Winamp, he found himself listening to a song he had never heard before: No Lies, Just Love by Bright Eyes. Oh. My. God. ( + Show Spoiler +) What kind of hero finds himself on the verge of tears whilst engaged in glorious internet spaceship battles? As my vision started to go slightly blurry (just tearing up, not really shedding anything!) and my attention drifted, I was suddenly and abrasively shocked back into reality (err, Eve) by the incredibly irritating and doom indicating low shields warning. On my overview, one Suleiman Shouaa (who I had, not a week ago, gone on a highly successful and enjoyable roam with!) was ominously flashing red in his Harbinger. I pretty much completely lose any ability to think when I engage in pvp combat in Eve still. I haven't really decided if this is a good thing or a bad thing yet, but its a rush at least. Anyway, this resulted in my trying to align to the sun and burn out by overheating my microwarpdrive (he was disruptor fit,) without my really checking where the sun was in conjunction to my ship. Instead of making my escape, which I should have done with ease, I ended up careening off of an asteroid and exploding in a firey ball. Oops. Feeling betrayed (and also somewhat depressed because of my recent and unexpected listening experience,) I warped my pod out and headed home. http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=9561926Part 2: Rupture Loss #2: Assailants - Ariartus & Friends (Gunpoint Diplomacy) + Some Swedish Punk with a Webcam As Hatchery members from around the world continued to afk, our hero yet again finds himself with little to do. Craving action, he decides to yet again pursue his goal of ratting whilst looking for potential targets, instead of just logging out of the game and actually doing something. Undocking in Oddelulf, he quickly finds a Vagabond on D-scan tagged 'Pre-Dinner Mayo.' Although he hadn't actually eaten anything yet on this terrible day, he found that he had managed to lose his appetite anyways. Commenting on this attrocity in local chat, he is quickly greeted by one Ariartus, who introduces him to (remember those stupid youtube videos I mentioned?) Regular Ordinary Swedish Mealtime (see + Show Spoiler +http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0L40f39bPII for reference. ) After laughing and exchanging pleasantries in local chat for a few minutes, he heads upon his merry way, feeling newly formed comradery and friendship. However, when he arrives in the next system, he quickly sees his pal appear in local, and shortly thereafter on D-Scan. Surely she'd not betray him like this? Despite his doubts, he aligns out to the next system in his routes' gate and sets speed to max, and not in vain - moments later she lands on the belt and overheats her micro warp drive in a ferocious attempt to point and kill our champion. Disgusting. Into the next system he jumps. However, this pattern continues. From belt to belt, system to system, she dogged me relentlessly. Enough was eventually enough - I decided to head home. I set my destination to Oddelulf and proceeded at best speed. But one jump from the comfort and safety of home, a trap was sprung; as I jump into Bosena, two of her corporation members are waiting for me on the gate in a second Vagabond and a rupture. They've diligently spread out around the gate, ensuring that one of them will be near me without delay, and - although I had a celestial merely 30 degrees to my left - they manage to target, lock, and point me instantly before I can warp off. Damn. It should probably be noted here that I haven't yet mentioned that we are actually at war with Gunpoint Diplomacy, and as such they can fire upon me on gates without suffering sentry gun fire, and, you know, people at war kill eachother. Again, the adrenaline kicks in and all I am left with is reflex. At the time, I had assumed that these predators would be doing their best to bring me down as quickly as possible, and that their leader, the despicable, although cunning, Ariartus would not give in to the temptations of bloodlust - unlike her minions - and would be the one to wait for me on the other side of the gate, lest I try and burn back. I decide that I was doomed, and despite what I told many who asked later, I decided to intentionally and forcefully swing back, attempting to take one of the honourless scoundrels with me. As I opened fire with all gun batteries on their Vagabond I approached the gate anyways - despite being under heavy fire and 'knowing' what was waiting for me on the other side even if I did make it, my survival instincts had kicked in. Ten kilometers to gate: 60% shields. Five Kilometers to gate: 40% shields. Four Kilometers to gate: 35% shields. I am actually going to make it! I've done it! Though I walked upon the coals, my feet remained unscathed! 2700m to gate: I started mashing the jump key. 2600m to gate: C'mon, baby. 2500m to gate: that should do it, I should be jumping through, I can't believe I might actually make it out of here alive! 2400m to gate: Woohoo, although I'm just lagging a bit, I've definitely made it now! 2300m to gate: something is wrong, I should be clear. 2200m to gate: ...? 2100m to gate: 'Because of your recent aggression, the gate denies you access.' It took me another few seconds to realize what had actually happened, and in these few seconds, although I was already in half structure, as if to add insult to injury, they proceed to stop firing, toying with me, taunting and leering at me for another full 30 seconds while Ariartus herself shows up to get on the killmail. Feeling like I had just been stabbed in the back (again...) I limped home with my head hung. http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=9566907Act 3: Rifter Loss #1, or, Fruitless Sacrifice: Assailants - Some Russian guy in a Typhoon Our hero is finally presented with the chance to prove himself in fleet based combat when a threesome of remote repair typhoons show up on our home station. So Firebolt starts yelling about typhoons on teamspeak and we suddenly have 12 people ready to undock and engage. As the first on the field, and the one who got them to aggress, as I enter the fray, Firebolt is starting to enter armor, and as such is going to have to disengage, losing our sole point on our primary target. For the greater good, I charge headlong into the behemoth of a battleship, microwarpdrive overheated and sig radius burning wide and bright, with absolutely no concern for myself, hoping only to get a cycle or two of scram off before I meet my maker. Our prey is far to spry for such a maneuver, and promptly sends me to oblivion with a single volley from him 800mm cannons. It turns out that Firebolt managed to hold on and keep point on him the whole time this was happening, so my death was 100% in vain. I didn't even get on the killmail. http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=9567147http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=9567240Chapter Four: Rifter Loss #2, or, The Only Good Thing I've Ever Done in my Life (today): Assailant - Another of Ariartus' swine So here some Gunpoint fellow decides to hang out outside of our station in Oddelulf, and to attempt to burn away in his rupture, instead of just docking, when Firebolt undocks a Hurricane on him. Big. Mistake. When dealing with The Hatchery, one should always assume that we have 50 self-esteemless rifters with little to no concern for their own safety (part of Kwarks break em down to build em up program) ready to undock on you. As the rupture hustled along at a good 150 m/s faster than Firebolt, rapidly removing himself from warp disruptor range, our hero finally had his chance to shine. With perfect timing, he launched himself from the station and sliced through the atmosphere at an impressive 4500 meters per second, almost instantly running down their cruiser and holding a web scrambler on the target for 3 cycles, slowing him down enough to allow Firebolt to maneuver directly on top of him, preventing his escape. Although, in the end, Aeth succumbed to those 425mm Autocannons, this time it was not for nothing. Future generations would enjoy freedom and blah, blah, blah... http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=9567880http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=9567881Section 5: Rifter Loss #3, or, Or Would They? Assailant - A certain rupture pilot we are all already quite familiar with Here, our hero has a run in with supernatural forces. Cruising around Oddelulf in his trusty rifter, Aeth nearly loses his cool when - what's this? - a GHOST appears on his D-Scan. The rupture they vanquished not an hour ago appears to be sitting outside of the customs office of planet VII. As I enter warp, preparing to tackle the rupture before I even know if anyone else is around to help me bring it down (I can't take him on alone,) a strange feeling comes over me. My tongue starts to tingle. As I attempt to let the fleet know where I am on comms, not much useful information comes out. I could be having a stroke, or maybe - if he can rise from the dead - this thing, surely not a man, can somehow impair my ability to speak. Whatever the case may be, I end up landing on him at 0, very much so cold and alone, and get popped by a flight of warrior IIs. http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=9568379Final Act: Episode 6: Rupture Loss #3: Assailants - Some Friendly Thorax Pilot (I like to think of all of my adversaries as terrible, vicious people, with which whose vanquishing comes great justice. This one, although I would not prevail, I was still irritated to find out, was actually a nice person when she offered to team up with us later) After another hour or so of uneventful time passes, I find myself desperately in need of some excitement, and so, of course, the second something to shoot at shows up in local, I, without any thought whatsoever, shoot at it. I was warping around trying to find a Brutix that had briefly appeared on scan for the corp to hunt down, when, suddenly (I'd already lost track of the brutix) a Thorax appears. Swiftly narrowing the scans parameters, I quickly find out that she appears to be somewhere in the vicinity of planet VIII. I enter warp immediately. With a fit intended for a totally different purpose. Without the proper type of ammunition for the engagement loaded or even in my cargo bay. Without a thought in my head. Although the battle would go on for a few minutes, it was a mere technicality, it had ended before it even began. I land less than 5km from her, and was scrambled instantly. As the heavy blaster fire started, I was optimistic. My drones were launched and tasked, my guns overheated, energy neutralizers and stasis webifiers activated, and I started to mentally prepare for what I though would be a close fight, when, suddenly, I lose my lock on the target. Confusion, by now familiar to me whilst playing, sets in as I furiously CTRL + Click her ship on the overview. WHY. CAN'T. I. TARGET. YOU??? Yes, our hero was having his first run in with the dreaded ECM drones. They hit every single cycle for 3 minutes straight. Eventually I just gave up, waiting for pod goo's cold embrace and watching her slowly wittle through my armor. If I had kept my head and my will, despite all else I failed at, I might have stood a chance. If I had used my combat drones to bring down her ecm drones, and then opened fire on her, I may have prevailed, but, alas, no such stratagem occurred to me. Another good ship was lost. http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=9571261Andddd so concludes the story of my weekend during which I spent far too much time in front of my computer and ended up getting my ass handed to me in Eve and writing some awful account of it on TL. I'm posting this at 3am on Monday morning and so I'm sure its rife with spelling and grammatical errors and practically unreadable in parts and thoroughly embarrassing, and the links are probably to the wrong things, and, yet, I am going to post it anyway without even proofing it once over myself. Yep, I'm a weird dude. /end.
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I was planning on doing that but if you'd like to, by all means do so.
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On May 02 2011 17:12 JJoNeEightY wrote:You probably don't want to open this. You have been warned. + Show Spoiler +I proudly present to you - Aeth Gemulus' Eve-Weekend: A Tragedy in 6 parts Let us being with the gut-wrenching tale of Rupture Loss #1: Assailants- Suleimann Shouaa + Angel Crusher + Connor Oberst So I haven't really decided if I want to go full piratey-outlaw-negativetenpointoh-badass or just part time pirate with preserved security status yet, and as such, when there isn't any player vs player action to be had, I have recently taken up floating between belts looking for npc battleship pirates to kill. This is not the most exciting or engaging activity in the world, and as such my attention drifts. Checking email, browsing forums, watching stupid youtube videos (more on this later), and listening to music (more on this shortly), etc, etc, etc. As such, in the early hours of Sunday, May 1st, our hero was found on an asteroid belt engaged in battle with previously mentioned Angel Crusher, when suddenly, thanks to the random shuffle feature he was employing in Winamp, he found himself listening to a song he had never heard before: No Lies, Just Love by Bright Eyes. Oh. My. God. ( + Show Spoiler +http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XM_hIwvI7uU ) What kind of hero finds himself on the verge of tears whilst engaged in glorious internet spaceship battles? As my vision started to go slightly blurry (just tearing up, not really shedding anything!) and my attention drifted, I was suddenly and abrasively shocked back into reality (err, Eve) by the incredibly irritating and doom indicating low shields warning. On my overview, one Suleiman Shouaa (who I had, not a week ago, gone on a highly successful and enjoyable roam with!) was ominously flashing red in his Harbinger. I pretty much completely lose any ability to think when I engage in pvp combat in Eve still. I haven't really decided if this is a good thing or a bad thing yet, but its a rush at least. Anyway, this resulted in my trying to align to the sun and burn out by overheating my microwarpdrive (he was disruptor fit,) without my really checking where the sun was in conjunction to my ship. Instead of making my escape, which I should have done with ease, I ended up careening off of an asteroid and exploding in a firey ball. Oops. Feeling betrayed (and also somewhat depressed because of my recent and unexpected listening experience,) I warped my pod out and headed home. http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=9561926Part 2: Rupture Loss #2: Assailants - Ariartus & Friends (Gunpoint Diplomacy) + Some Swedish Punk with a Webcam As Hatchery members from around the world continued to afk, our hero yet again finds himself with little to do. Craving action, he decides to yet again pursue his goal of ratting whilst looking for potential targets, instead of just logging out of the game and actually doing something. Undocking in Oddelulf, he quickly finds a Vagabond on D-scan tagged 'Pre-Dinner Mayo.' Although he hadn't actually eaten anything yet on this terrible day, he found that he had managed to lose his appetite anyways. Commenting on this attrocity in local chat, he is quickly greeted by one Ariartus, who introduces him to (remember those stupid youtube videos I mentioned?) Regular Ordinary Swedish Mealtime (see + Show Spoiler +http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0L40f39bPII for reference. ) After laughing and exchanging pleasantries in local chat for a few minutes, he heads upon his merry way, feeling newly formed comradery and friendship. However, when he arrives in the next system, he quickly sees his pal appear in local, and shortly thereafter on D-Scan. Surely she'd not betray him like this? Despite his doubts, he aligns out to the next system in his routes' gate and sets speed to max, and not in vain - moments later she lands on the belt and overheats her micro warp drive in a ferocious attempt to point and kill our champion. Disgusting. Into the next system he jumps. However, this pattern continues. From belt to belt, system to system, she dogged me relentlessly. Enough was eventually enough - I decided to head home. I set my destination to Oddelulf and proceeded at best speed. But one jump from the comfort and safety of home, a trap was sprung; as I jump into Bosena, two of her corporation members are waiting for me on the gate in a second Vagabond and a rupture. They've diligently spread out around the gate, ensuring that one of them will be near me without delay, and - although I had a celestial merely 30 degrees to my left - they manage to target, lock, and point me instantly before I can warp off. Damn. It should probably be noted here that I haven't yet mentioned that we are actually at war with Gunpoint Diplomacy, and as such they can fire upon me on gates without suffering sentry gun fire, and, you know, people at war kill eachother. Again, the adrenaline kicks in and all I am left with is reflex. At the time, I had assumed that these predators would be doing their best to bring me down as quickly as possible, and that their leader, the despicable, although cunning, Ariartus would not give in to the temptations of bloodlust - unlike her minions - and would be the one to wait for me on the other side of the gate, lest I try and burn back. I decide that I was doomed, and despite what I told many who asked later, I decided to intentionally and forcefully swing back, attempting to take one of the honourless scoundrels with me. As I opened fire with all gun batteries on their Vagabond I approached the gate anyways - despite being under heavy fire and 'knowing' what was waiting for me on the other side even if I did make it, my survival instincts had kicked in. Ten kilometers to gate: 60% shields. Five Kilometers to gate: 40% shields. Four Kilometers to gate: 35% shields. I am actually going to make it! I've done it! Though I walked upon the coals, my feet remained unscathed! 2700m to gate: I started mashing the jump key. 2600m to gate: C'mon, baby. 2500m to gate: that should do it, I should be jumping through, I can't believe I might actually make it out of here alive! 2400m to gate: Woohoo, although I'm just lagging a bit, I've definitely made it now! 2300m to gate: something is wrong, I should be clear. 2200m to gate: ...? 2100m to gate: 'Because of your recent aggression, the gate denies you access.' It took me another few seconds to realize what had actually happened, and in these few seconds, although I was already in half structure, as if to add insult to injury, they proceed to stop firing, toying with me, taunting and leering at me for another full 30 seconds while Ariartus herself shows up to get on the killmail. Feeling like I had just been stabbed in the back (again...) I limped home with my head hung. http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=9566907Act 3: Rifter Loss #1, or, Fruitless Sacrifice: Assailants - Some Russian guy in a Typhoon Our hero is finally presented with the chance to prove himself in fleet based combat when a threesome of remote repair typhoons show up on our home station. So Firebolt starts yelling about typhoons on teamspeak and we suddenly have 12 people ready to undock and engage. As the first on the field, and the one who got them to aggress, as I enter the fray, Firebolt is starting to enter armor, and as such is going to have to disengage, losing our sole point on our primary target. For the greater good, I charge headlong into the behemoth of a battleship, microwarpdrive overheated and sig radius burning wide and bright, with absolutely no concern for myself, hoping only to get a cycle or two of scram off before I meet my maker. Our prey is far to spry for such a maneuver, and promptly sends me to oblivion with a single volley from him 800mm cannons. It turns out that Firebolt managed to hold on and keep point on him the whole time this was happening, so my death was 100% in vain. I didn't even get on the killmail. http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=9567147http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=9567240Chapter Four: Rifter Loss #2, or, The Only Good Thing I've Ever Done in my Life (today): Assailant - Another of Ariartus' swine So here some Gunpoint fellow decides to hang out outside of our station in Oddelulf, and to attempt to burn away in his rupture, instead of just docking, when Firebolt undocks a Hurricane on him. Big. Mistake. When dealing with The Hatchery, one should always assume that we have 50 self-esteemless rifters with little to no concern for their own safety (part of Kwarks break em down to build em up program) ready to undock on you. As the rupture hustled along at a good 150 m/s faster than Firebolt, rapidly removing himself from warp disruptor range, our hero finally had his chance to shine. With perfect timing, he launched himself from the station and sliced through the atmosphere at an impressive 4500 meters per second, almost instantly running down their cruiser and holding a web scrambler on the target for 3 cycles, slowing him down enough to allow Firebolt to maneuver directly on top of him, preventing his escape. Although, in the end, Aeth succumbed to those 425mm Autocannons, this time it was not for nothing. Future generations would enjoy freedom and blah, blah, blah... http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=9567880http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=9567881Section 5: Rifter Loss #3, or, Or Would They? Assailant - A certain rupture pilot we are all already quite familiar with Here, our hero has a run in with supernatural forces. Cruising around Oddelulf in his trusty rifter, Aeth nearly loses his cool when - what's this? - a GHOST appears on his D-Scan. The rupture they vanquished not an hour ago appears to be sitting outside of the customs office of planet VII. As I enter warp, preparing to tackle the rupture before I even know if anyone else is around to help me bring it down (I can't take him on alone,) a strange feeling comes over me. My tongue starts to tingle. As I attempt to let the fleet know where I am on comms, not much useful information comes out. I could be having a stroke, or maybe - if he can rise from the dead - this thing, surely not a man, can somehow impair my ability to speak. Whatever the case may be, I end up landing on him at 0, very much so cold and alone, and get popped by a flight of warrior IIs. http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=9568379Final Act: Episode 6: Rupture Loss #3: Assailants - Some Friendly Thorax Pilot (I like to think of all of my adversaries as terrible, vicious people, with which whose vanquishing comes great justice. This one, although I would not prevail, I was still irritated to find out, was actually a nice person when she offered to team up with us later) After another hour or so of uneventful time passes, I find myself desperately in need of some excitement, and so, of course, the second something to shoot at shows up in local, I, without any thought whatsoever, shoot at it. I was warping around trying to find a Brutix that had briefly appeared on scan for the corp to hunt down, when, suddenly (I'd already lost track of the brutix) a Thorax appears. Swiftly narrowing the scans parameters, I quickly find out that she appears to be somewhere in the vicinity of planet VIII. I enter warp immediately. With a fit intended for a totally different purpose. Without the proper type of ammunition for the engagement loaded or even in my cargo bay. Without a thought in my head. Although the battle would go on for a few minutes, it was a mere technicality, it had ended before it even began. I land less than 5km from her, and was scrambled instantly. As the heavy blaster fire started, I was optimistic. My drones were launched and tasked, my guns overheated, energy neutralizers and stasis webifiers activated, and I started to mentally prepare for what I though would be a close fight, when, suddenly, I lose my lock on the target. Confusion, by now familiar to me whilst playing, sets in as I furiously CTRL + Click her ship on the overview. WHY. CAN'T. I. TARGET. YOU??? Yes, our hero was having his first run in with the dreaded ECM drones. They hit every single cycle for 3 minutes straight. Eventually I just gave up, waiting for pod goo's cold embrace and watching her slowly wittle through my armor. If I had kept my head and my will, despite all else I failed at, I might have stood a chance. If I had used my combat drones to bring down her ecm drones, and then opened fire on her, I may have prevailed, but, alas, no such stratagem occurred to me. Another good ship was lost. http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=9571261Andddd so concludes the story of my weekend during which I spent far too much time in front of my computer and ended up getting my ass handed to me in Eve and writing some awful account of it on TL. I'm posting this at 3am on Monday morning and so I'm sure its rife with spelling and grammatical errors and practically unreadable in parts and thoroughly embarrassing, and the links are probably to the wrong things, and, yet, I am going to post it anyway without even proofing it once over myself. Yep, I'm a weird dude. /end. If you really get too into PVP and can't focus, think, or do anything coherently, I recommend practicing on the test server until you can do the flying part of combat without thinking too hard or freaking out.
Practice with the ships and tactics you want to use; find out what you can kill, what you can get away from, and what will totally maul your face in. Just keep PVPing until it seems regular and you can totally handle it and don't go all flush and shaky just from turning your guns on or seeing your shields drop by 20%.
Then come back to TQ and try to keep your cool. Keep a good head about you and try not to die. EVE PVP is an exciting and unique experience, and it will ALWAYS be that way (getting used to doing it regularly won't ruin this for you), but what will ruin it is being so freaked out and dumbstruck by its sudden advent that you do nonsensical things and get steamrolled like a paralyzed deer.
Most people start out like that, but few get past it. Join us and come to Valhalla!
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On May 02 2011 15:29 Mumbleskates wrote: You guys seem content to continue in fixed and predictable tactics and engaging whatever flies in front of you just because you can, and engaging unwisely is the name of the game for you. That can be fun too I guess.
Please leave highsec and do some real pvp.
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On May 02 2011 17:44 Mumbleskates wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2011 17:12 JJoNeEightY wrote:You probably don't want to open this. You have been warned. + Show Spoiler +I proudly present to you - Aeth Gemulus' Eve-Weekend: A Tragedy in 6 parts Let us being with the gut-wrenching tale of Rupture Loss #1: Assailants- Suleimann Shouaa + Angel Crusher + Connor Oberst So I haven't really decided if I want to go full piratey-outlaw-negativetenpointoh-badass or just part time pirate with preserved security status yet, and as such, when there isn't any player vs player action to be had, I have recently taken up floating between belts looking for npc battleship pirates to kill. This is not the most exciting or engaging activity in the world, and as such my attention drifts. Checking email, browsing forums, watching stupid youtube videos (more on this later), and listening to music (more on this shortly), etc, etc, etc. As such, in the early hours of Sunday, May 1st, our hero was found on an asteroid belt engaged in battle with previously mentioned Angel Crusher, when suddenly, thanks to the random shuffle feature he was employing in Winamp, he found himself listening to a song he had never heard before: No Lies, Just Love by Bright Eyes. Oh. My. God. ( + Show Spoiler +http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XM_hIwvI7uU ) What kind of hero finds himself on the verge of tears whilst engaged in glorious internet spaceship battles? As my vision started to go slightly blurry (just tearing up, not really shedding anything!) and my attention drifted, I was suddenly and abrasively shocked back into reality (err, Eve) by the incredibly irritating and doom indicating low shields warning. On my overview, one Suleiman Shouaa (who I had, not a week ago, gone on a highly successful and enjoyable roam with!) was ominously flashing red in his Harbinger. I pretty much completely lose any ability to think when I engage in pvp combat in Eve still. I haven't really decided if this is a good thing or a bad thing yet, but its a rush at least. Anyway, this resulted in my trying to align to the sun and burn out by overheating my microwarpdrive (he was disruptor fit,) without my really checking where the sun was in conjunction to my ship. Instead of making my escape, which I should have done with ease, I ended up careening off of an asteroid and exploding in a firey ball. Oops. Feeling betrayed (and also somewhat depressed because of my recent and unexpected listening experience,) I warped my pod out and headed home. http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=9561926Part 2: Rupture Loss #2: Assailants - Ariartus & Friends (Gunpoint Diplomacy) + Some Swedish Punk with a Webcam As Hatchery members from around the world continued to afk, our hero yet again finds himself with little to do. Craving action, he decides to yet again pursue his goal of ratting whilst looking for potential targets, instead of just logging out of the game and actually doing something. Undocking in Oddelulf, he quickly finds a Vagabond on D-scan tagged 'Pre-Dinner Mayo.' Although he hadn't actually eaten anything yet on this terrible day, he found that he had managed to lose his appetite anyways. Commenting on this attrocity in local chat, he is quickly greeted by one Ariartus, who introduces him to (remember those stupid youtube videos I mentioned?) Regular Ordinary Swedish Mealtime (see + Show Spoiler +http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0L40f39bPII for reference. ) After laughing and exchanging pleasantries in local chat for a few minutes, he heads upon his merry way, feeling newly formed comradery and friendship. However, when he arrives in the next system, he quickly sees his pal appear in local, and shortly thereafter on D-Scan. Surely she'd not betray him like this? Despite his doubts, he aligns out to the next system in his routes' gate and sets speed to max, and not in vain - moments later she lands on the belt and overheats her micro warp drive in a ferocious attempt to point and kill our champion. Disgusting. Into the next system he jumps. However, this pattern continues. From belt to belt, system to system, she dogged me relentlessly. Enough was eventually enough - I decided to head home. I set my destination to Oddelulf and proceeded at best speed. But one jump from the comfort and safety of home, a trap was sprung; as I jump into Bosena, two of her corporation members are waiting for me on the gate in a second Vagabond and a rupture. They've diligently spread out around the gate, ensuring that one of them will be near me without delay, and - although I had a celestial merely 30 degrees to my left - they manage to target, lock, and point me instantly before I can warp off. Damn. It should probably be noted here that I haven't yet mentioned that we are actually at war with Gunpoint Diplomacy, and as such they can fire upon me on gates without suffering sentry gun fire, and, you know, people at war kill eachother. Again, the adrenaline kicks in and all I am left with is reflex. At the time, I had assumed that these predators would be doing their best to bring me down as quickly as possible, and that their leader, the despicable, although cunning, Ariartus would not give in to the temptations of bloodlust - unlike her minions - and would be the one to wait for me on the other side of the gate, lest I try and burn back. I decide that I was doomed, and despite what I told many who asked later, I decided to intentionally and forcefully swing back, attempting to take one of the honourless scoundrels with me. As I opened fire with all gun batteries on their Vagabond I approached the gate anyways - despite being under heavy fire and 'knowing' what was waiting for me on the other side even if I did make it, my survival instincts had kicked in. Ten kilometers to gate: 60% shields. Five Kilometers to gate: 40% shields. Four Kilometers to gate: 35% shields. I am actually going to make it! I've done it! Though I walked upon the coals, my feet remained unscathed! 2700m to gate: I started mashing the jump key. 2600m to gate: C'mon, baby. 2500m to gate: that should do it, I should be jumping through, I can't believe I might actually make it out of here alive! 2400m to gate: Woohoo, although I'm just lagging a bit, I've definitely made it now! 2300m to gate: something is wrong, I should be clear. 2200m to gate: ...? 2100m to gate: 'Because of your recent aggression, the gate denies you access.' It took me another few seconds to realize what had actually happened, and in these few seconds, although I was already in half structure, as if to add insult to injury, they proceed to stop firing, toying with me, taunting and leering at me for another full 30 seconds while Ariartus herself shows up to get on the killmail. Feeling like I had just been stabbed in the back (again...) I limped home with my head hung. http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=9566907Act 3: Rifter Loss #1, or, Fruitless Sacrifice: Assailants - Some Russian guy in a Typhoon Our hero is finally presented with the chance to prove himself in fleet based combat when a threesome of remote repair typhoons show up on our home station. So Firebolt starts yelling about typhoons on teamspeak and we suddenly have 12 people ready to undock and engage. As the first on the field, and the one who got them to aggress, as I enter the fray, Firebolt is starting to enter armor, and as such is going to have to disengage, losing our sole point on our primary target. For the greater good, I charge headlong into the behemoth of a battleship, microwarpdrive overheated and sig radius burning wide and bright, with absolutely no concern for myself, hoping only to get a cycle or two of scram off before I meet my maker. Our prey is far to spry for such a maneuver, and promptly sends me to oblivion with a single volley from him 800mm cannons. It turns out that Firebolt managed to hold on and keep point on him the whole time this was happening, so my death was 100% in vain. I didn't even get on the killmail. http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=9567147http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=9567240Chapter Four: Rifter Loss #2, or, The Only Good Thing I've Ever Done in my Life (today): Assailant - Another of Ariartus' swine So here some Gunpoint fellow decides to hang out outside of our station in Oddelulf, and to attempt to burn away in his rupture, instead of just docking, when Firebolt undocks a Hurricane on him. Big. Mistake. When dealing with The Hatchery, one should always assume that we have 50 self-esteemless rifters with little to no concern for their own safety (part of Kwarks break em down to build em up program) ready to undock on you. As the rupture hustled along at a good 150 m/s faster than Firebolt, rapidly removing himself from warp disruptor range, our hero finally had his chance to shine. With perfect timing, he launched himself from the station and sliced through the atmosphere at an impressive 4500 meters per second, almost instantly running down their cruiser and holding a web scrambler on the target for 3 cycles, slowing him down enough to allow Firebolt to maneuver directly on top of him, preventing his escape. Although, in the end, Aeth succumbed to those 425mm Autocannons, this time it was not for nothing. Future generations would enjoy freedom and blah, blah, blah... http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=9567880http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=9567881Section 5: Rifter Loss #3, or, Or Would They? Assailant - A certain rupture pilot we are all already quite familiar with Here, our hero has a run in with supernatural forces. Cruising around Oddelulf in his trusty rifter, Aeth nearly loses his cool when - what's this? - a GHOST appears on his D-Scan. The rupture they vanquished not an hour ago appears to be sitting outside of the customs office of planet VII. As I enter warp, preparing to tackle the rupture before I even know if anyone else is around to help me bring it down (I can't take him on alone,) a strange feeling comes over me. My tongue starts to tingle. As I attempt to let the fleet know where I am on comms, not much useful information comes out. I could be having a stroke, or maybe - if he can rise from the dead - this thing, surely not a man, can somehow impair my ability to speak. Whatever the case may be, I end up landing on him at 0, very much so cold and alone, and get popped by a flight of warrior IIs. http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=9568379Final Act: Episode 6: Rupture Loss #3: Assailants - Some Friendly Thorax Pilot (I like to think of all of my adversaries as terrible, vicious people, with which whose vanquishing comes great justice. This one, although I would not prevail, I was still irritated to find out, was actually a nice person when she offered to team up with us later) After another hour or so of uneventful time passes, I find myself desperately in need of some excitement, and so, of course, the second something to shoot at shows up in local, I, without any thought whatsoever, shoot at it. I was warping around trying to find a Brutix that had briefly appeared on scan for the corp to hunt down, when, suddenly (I'd already lost track of the brutix) a Thorax appears. Swiftly narrowing the scans parameters, I quickly find out that she appears to be somewhere in the vicinity of planet VIII. I enter warp immediately. With a fit intended for a totally different purpose. Without the proper type of ammunition for the engagement loaded or even in my cargo bay. Without a thought in my head. Although the battle would go on for a few minutes, it was a mere technicality, it had ended before it even began. I land less than 5km from her, and was scrambled instantly. As the heavy blaster fire started, I was optimistic. My drones were launched and tasked, my guns overheated, energy neutralizers and stasis webifiers activated, and I started to mentally prepare for what I though would be a close fight, when, suddenly, I lose my lock on the target. Confusion, by now familiar to me whilst playing, sets in as I furiously CTRL + Click her ship on the overview. WHY. CAN'T. I. TARGET. YOU??? Yes, our hero was having his first run in with the dreaded ECM drones. They hit every single cycle for 3 minutes straight. Eventually I just gave up, waiting for pod goo's cold embrace and watching her slowly wittle through my armor. If I had kept my head and my will, despite all else I failed at, I might have stood a chance. If I had used my combat drones to bring down her ecm drones, and then opened fire on her, I may have prevailed, but, alas, no such stratagem occurred to me. Another good ship was lost. http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=9571261Andddd so concludes the story of my weekend during which I spent far too much time in front of my computer and ended up getting my ass handed to me in Eve and writing some awful account of it on TL. I'm posting this at 3am on Monday morning and so I'm sure its rife with spelling and grammatical errors and practically unreadable in parts and thoroughly embarrassing, and the links are probably to the wrong things, and, yet, I am going to post it anyway without even proofing it once over myself. Yep, I'm a weird dude. /end. If you really get too into PVP and can't focus, think, or do anything coherently, I recommend practicing on the test server until you can do the flying part of combat without thinking too hard or freaking out. Practice with the ships and tactics you want to use; find out what you can kill, what you can get away from, and what will totally maul your face in. Just keep PVPing until it seems regular and you can totally handle it and don't go all flush and shaky just from turning your guns on or seeing your shields drop by 20%. Then come back to TQ and try to keep your cool. Keep a good head about you and try not to die. EVE PVP is an exciting and unique experience, and it will ALWAYS be that way (getting used to doing it regularly won't ruin this for you), but what will ruin it is being so freaked out and dumbstruck by its sudden advent that you do nonsensical things and get steamrolled like a paralyzed deer. Most people start out like that, but few get past it. Join us and come to Valhalla!
Make note that you will need to bring a friend(s) since all of the beacons on test server is just a blob fest with capitals and stuff flying about. Sadly the test server is even easier to get blobbed than the real server and is only good for testing out 1v1 arranged duels unless you get a gang of 4-5 mates to fly around with you.
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If I'm all alone, PvP freaks me right the fuck out (Please Youtube Dave Chappelle's 911 call, I'll edit it in here when I am not at work). In a group, I am like some sort of well trained soldier waiting for the adrenaline fix of life and death battles.
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Funny how all this talk about mass test server is going on now, the building I am at today has a company called SESI MassTech and I cannot unsee "SISI MassTest" ><
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On May 02 2011 17:12 JJoNeEightY wrote: You probably don't want to open this.
You have been warned.
I really enjoyed your write-up, keep it up. And screw that nameless guy that told you to go to the test server. Learning to work under the pressure of facing real loss is where the useful experience comes from. I look forward to seeing your EVE pvp career and write-ups continue and develop. And, one thing you'll always have over mumbleskates is verifiable killboard data.
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On May 02 2011 22:55 Altaen wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2011 17:12 JJoNeEightY wrote: You probably don't want to open this.
You have been warned.
I really enjoyed your write-up, keep it up. And screw that nameless guy that told you to go to the test server. Learning to work under the pressure of facing real loss is where the useful experience comes from. I look forward to seeing your EVE pvp career and write-ups continue and develop. And, one thing you'll always have over mumbleskates is verifiable killboard data.
yea but yeah but
if he doesnt use the test server ... ...
HELL HAVE REDS ON THE KAYBEE
oh noes
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Wow Cael, your cane got absolutely gang raped by eve uni.
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It was probably intentional since its him.
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Ah, the double bluff bait arty cane.
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On May 02 2011 20:16 Warri wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2011 15:29 Mumbleskates wrote: You guys seem content to continue in fixed and predictable tactics and engaging whatever flies in front of you just because you can, and engaging unwisely is the name of the game for you. That can be fun too I guess.
Please leave highsec and do some real pvp. Gosh, you wouldn't be assuming anything about the way I play the game, would you?
On May 02 2011 20:36 pahndah wrote: Make note that you will need to bring a friend(s) since all of the beacons on test server is just a blob fest with capitals and stuff flying about. Sadly the test server is even easier to get blobbed than the real server and is only good for testing out 1v1 arranged duels unless you get a gang of 4-5 mates to fly around with you. QQ more. It's the Test Server, ships are free. Organize a small gang fight on your own if you don't like the beacons, it's not that hard.
On May 02 2011 22:55 Altaen wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2011 17:12 JJoNeEightY wrote: You probably don't want to open this.
You have been warned.
I really enjoyed your write-up, keep it up. And screw that nameless guy that told you to go to the test server. Learning to work under the pressure of facing real loss is where the useful experience comes from. I look forward to seeing your EVE pvp career and write-ups continue and develop. And, one thing you'll always have over mumbleskates is verifiable killboard data. You know, I actually do have a name. It's right there above my posts. I have verifiable killboard data, but I don't need to flaunt it in front of everyone as if it is the only way to validate what I'm saying as reasonable.
If you truly want to improve at PVP, doing more if it can only help. The test server is a fun and constructive way to do this without blowing through all your hard earned ISK. I've learned all kinds of things on the test server that I would have otherwise had to learn the hard way, and flying there is most of what taught me how to keep cool when a fight is going down and stay looking at the important parts of the screen instead of freaking out and missing something major.
In summary, screw you too, guy. I'm just sharing what I learned. I'm not even sure if anyone knows whether or not you play this game yourself.
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On May 02 2011 17:44 Mumbleskates wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2011 17:12 JJoNeEightY wrote:You probably don't want to open this. You have been warned. + Show Spoiler +I proudly present to you - Aeth Gemulus' Eve-Weekend: A Tragedy in 6 parts Let us being with the gut-wrenching tale of Rupture Loss #1: Assailants- Suleimann Shouaa + Angel Crusher + Connor Oberst So I haven't really decided if I want to go full piratey-outlaw-negativetenpointoh-badass or just part time pirate with preserved security status yet, and as such, when there isn't any player vs player action to be had, I have recently taken up floating between belts looking for npc battleship pirates to kill. This is not the most exciting or engaging activity in the world, and as such my attention drifts. Checking email, browsing forums, watching stupid youtube videos (more on this later), and listening to music (more on this shortly), etc, etc, etc. As such, in the early hours of Sunday, May 1st, our hero was found on an asteroid belt engaged in battle with previously mentioned Angel Crusher, when suddenly, thanks to the random shuffle feature he was employing in Winamp, he found himself listening to a song he had never heard before: No Lies, Just Love by Bright Eyes. Oh. My. God. ( + Show Spoiler +http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XM_hIwvI7uU ) What kind of hero finds himself on the verge of tears whilst engaged in glorious internet spaceship battles? As my vision started to go slightly blurry (just tearing up, not really shedding anything!) and my attention drifted, I was suddenly and abrasively shocked back into reality (err, Eve) by the incredibly irritating and doom indicating low shields warning. On my overview, one Suleiman Shouaa (who I had, not a week ago, gone on a highly successful and enjoyable roam with!) was ominously flashing red in his Harbinger. I pretty much completely lose any ability to think when I engage in pvp combat in Eve still. I haven't really decided if this is a good thing or a bad thing yet, but its a rush at least. Anyway, this resulted in my trying to align to the sun and burn out by overheating my microwarpdrive (he was disruptor fit,) without my really checking where the sun was in conjunction to my ship. Instead of making my escape, which I should have done with ease, I ended up careening off of an asteroid and exploding in a firey ball. Oops. Feeling betrayed (and also somewhat depressed because of my recent and unexpected listening experience,) I warped my pod out and headed home. http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=9561926Part 2: Rupture Loss #2: Assailants - Ariartus & Friends (Gunpoint Diplomacy) + Some Swedish Punk with a Webcam As Hatchery members from around the world continued to afk, our hero yet again finds himself with little to do. Craving action, he decides to yet again pursue his goal of ratting whilst looking for potential targets, instead of just logging out of the game and actually doing something. Undocking in Oddelulf, he quickly finds a Vagabond on D-scan tagged 'Pre-Dinner Mayo.' Although he hadn't actually eaten anything yet on this terrible day, he found that he had managed to lose his appetite anyways. Commenting on this attrocity in local chat, he is quickly greeted by one Ariartus, who introduces him to (remember those stupid youtube videos I mentioned?) Regular Ordinary Swedish Mealtime (see + Show Spoiler +http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0L40f39bPII for reference. ) After laughing and exchanging pleasantries in local chat for a few minutes, he heads upon his merry way, feeling newly formed comradery and friendship. However, when he arrives in the next system, he quickly sees his pal appear in local, and shortly thereafter on D-Scan. Surely she'd not betray him like this? Despite his doubts, he aligns out to the next system in his routes' gate and sets speed to max, and not in vain - moments later she lands on the belt and overheats her micro warp drive in a ferocious attempt to point and kill our champion. Disgusting. Into the next system he jumps. However, this pattern continues. From belt to belt, system to system, she dogged me relentlessly. Enough was eventually enough - I decided to head home. I set my destination to Oddelulf and proceeded at best speed. But one jump from the comfort and safety of home, a trap was sprung; as I jump into Bosena, two of her corporation members are waiting for me on the gate in a second Vagabond and a rupture. They've diligently spread out around the gate, ensuring that one of them will be near me without delay, and - although I had a celestial merely 30 degrees to my left - they manage to target, lock, and point me instantly before I can warp off. Damn. It should probably be noted here that I haven't yet mentioned that we are actually at war with Gunpoint Diplomacy, and as such they can fire upon me on gates without suffering sentry gun fire, and, you know, people at war kill eachother. Again, the adrenaline kicks in and all I am left with is reflex. At the time, I had assumed that these predators would be doing their best to bring me down as quickly as possible, and that their leader, the despicable, although cunning, Ariartus would not give in to the temptations of bloodlust - unlike her minions - and would be the one to wait for me on the other side of the gate, lest I try and burn back. I decide that I was doomed, and despite what I told many who asked later, I decided to intentionally and forcefully swing back, attempting to take one of the honourless scoundrels with me. As I opened fire with all gun batteries on their Vagabond I approached the gate anyways - despite being under heavy fire and 'knowing' what was waiting for me on the other side even if I did make it, my survival instincts had kicked in. Ten kilometers to gate: 60% shields. Five Kilometers to gate: 40% shields. Four Kilometers to gate: 35% shields. I am actually going to make it! I've done it! Though I walked upon the coals, my feet remained unscathed! 2700m to gate: I started mashing the jump key. 2600m to gate: C'mon, baby. 2500m to gate: that should do it, I should be jumping through, I can't believe I might actually make it out of here alive! 2400m to gate: Woohoo, although I'm just lagging a bit, I've definitely made it now! 2300m to gate: something is wrong, I should be clear. 2200m to gate: ...? 2100m to gate: 'Because of your recent aggression, the gate denies you access.' It took me another few seconds to realize what had actually happened, and in these few seconds, although I was already in half structure, as if to add insult to injury, they proceed to stop firing, toying with me, taunting and leering at me for another full 30 seconds while Ariartus herself shows up to get on the killmail. Feeling like I had just been stabbed in the back (again...) I limped home with my head hung. http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=9566907Act 3: Rifter Loss #1, or, Fruitless Sacrifice: Assailants - Some Russian guy in a Typhoon Our hero is finally presented with the chance to prove himself in fleet based combat when a threesome of remote repair typhoons show up on our home station. So Firebolt starts yelling about typhoons on teamspeak and we suddenly have 12 people ready to undock and engage. As the first on the field, and the one who got them to aggress, as I enter the fray, Firebolt is starting to enter armor, and as such is going to have to disengage, losing our sole point on our primary target. For the greater good, I charge headlong into the behemoth of a battleship, microwarpdrive overheated and sig radius burning wide and bright, with absolutely no concern for myself, hoping only to get a cycle or two of scram off before I meet my maker. Our prey is far to spry for such a maneuver, and promptly sends me to oblivion with a single volley from him 800mm cannons. It turns out that Firebolt managed to hold on and keep point on him the whole time this was happening, so my death was 100% in vain. I didn't even get on the killmail. http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=9567147http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=9567240Chapter Four: Rifter Loss #2, or, The Only Good Thing I've Ever Done in my Life (today): Assailant - Another of Ariartus' swine So here some Gunpoint fellow decides to hang out outside of our station in Oddelulf, and to attempt to burn away in his rupture, instead of just docking, when Firebolt undocks a Hurricane on him. Big. Mistake. When dealing with The Hatchery, one should always assume that we have 50 self-esteemless rifters with little to no concern for their own safety (part of Kwarks break em down to build em up program) ready to undock on you. As the rupture hustled along at a good 150 m/s faster than Firebolt, rapidly removing himself from warp disruptor range, our hero finally had his chance to shine. With perfect timing, he launched himself from the station and sliced through the atmosphere at an impressive 4500 meters per second, almost instantly running down their cruiser and holding a web scrambler on the target for 3 cycles, slowing him down enough to allow Firebolt to maneuver directly on top of him, preventing his escape. Although, in the end, Aeth succumbed to those 425mm Autocannons, this time it was not for nothing. Future generations would enjoy freedom and blah, blah, blah... http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=9567880http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=9567881Section 5: Rifter Loss #3, or, Or Would They? Assailant - A certain rupture pilot we are all already quite familiar with Here, our hero has a run in with supernatural forces. Cruising around Oddelulf in his trusty rifter, Aeth nearly loses his cool when - what's this? - a GHOST appears on his D-Scan. The rupture they vanquished not an hour ago appears to be sitting outside of the customs office of planet VII. As I enter warp, preparing to tackle the rupture before I even know if anyone else is around to help me bring it down (I can't take him on alone,) a strange feeling comes over me. My tongue starts to tingle. As I attempt to let the fleet know where I am on comms, not much useful information comes out. I could be having a stroke, or maybe - if he can rise from the dead - this thing, surely not a man, can somehow impair my ability to speak. Whatever the case may be, I end up landing on him at 0, very much so cold and alone, and get popped by a flight of warrior IIs. http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=9568379Final Act: Episode 6: Rupture Loss #3: Assailants - Some Friendly Thorax Pilot (I like to think of all of my adversaries as terrible, vicious people, with which whose vanquishing comes great justice. This one, although I would not prevail, I was still irritated to find out, was actually a nice person when she offered to team up with us later) After another hour or so of uneventful time passes, I find myself desperately in need of some excitement, and so, of course, the second something to shoot at shows up in local, I, without any thought whatsoever, shoot at it. I was warping around trying to find a Brutix that had briefly appeared on scan for the corp to hunt down, when, suddenly (I'd already lost track of the brutix) a Thorax appears. Swiftly narrowing the scans parameters, I quickly find out that she appears to be somewhere in the vicinity of planet VIII. I enter warp immediately. With a fit intended for a totally different purpose. Without the proper type of ammunition for the engagement loaded or even in my cargo bay. Without a thought in my head. Although the battle would go on for a few minutes, it was a mere technicality, it had ended before it even began. I land less than 5km from her, and was scrambled instantly. As the heavy blaster fire started, I was optimistic. My drones were launched and tasked, my guns overheated, energy neutralizers and stasis webifiers activated, and I started to mentally prepare for what I though would be a close fight, when, suddenly, I lose my lock on the target. Confusion, by now familiar to me whilst playing, sets in as I furiously CTRL + Click her ship on the overview. WHY. CAN'T. I. TARGET. YOU??? Yes, our hero was having his first run in with the dreaded ECM drones. They hit every single cycle for 3 minutes straight. Eventually I just gave up, waiting for pod goo's cold embrace and watching her slowly wittle through my armor. If I had kept my head and my will, despite all else I failed at, I might have stood a chance. If I had used my combat drones to bring down her ecm drones, and then opened fire on her, I may have prevailed, but, alas, no such stratagem occurred to me. Another good ship was lost. http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=9571261Andddd so concludes the story of my weekend during which I spent far too much time in front of my computer and ended up getting my ass handed to me in Eve and writing some awful account of it on TL. I'm posting this at 3am on Monday morning and so I'm sure its rife with spelling and grammatical errors and practically unreadable in parts and thoroughly embarrassing, and the links are probably to the wrong things, and, yet, I am going to post it anyway without even proofing it once over myself. Yep, I'm a weird dude. /end. If you really get too into PVP and can't focus, think, or do anything coherently, I recommend practicing on the test server until you can do the flying part of combat without thinking too hard or freaking out. Practice with the ships and tactics you want to use; find out what you can kill, what you can get away from, and what will totally maul your face in. Just keep PVPing until it seems regular and you can totally handle it and don't go all flush and shaky just from turning your guns on or seeing your shields drop by 20%. Then come back to TQ and try to keep your cool. Keep a good head about you and try not to die. EVE PVP is an exciting and unique experience, and it will ALWAYS be that way (getting used to doing it regularly won't ruin this for you), but what will ruin it is being so freaked out and dumbstruck by its sudden advent that you do nonsensical things and get steamrolled like a paralyzed deer. Most people start out like that, but few get past it. Join us and come to Valhalla!
Spending more time on sisi trying things than just risking stuff and having fun on TQ is the #1 sign of bittervethood imqhfo.
Playing on the test server to see if something works takes so much of the magic out of the game. I really don't see the appeal, even for testing expensive ships or fits.
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