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On May 02 2011 23:40 Body_Shield wrote: Wow Cael, your cane got absolutely gang raped by eve uni.
Yeah was roaming with TEXN and we went to pop a cane but a eve uni gang warped to the gate at that same moment, I was the only flashy red on gate so guess who euni went for first -.-
Could have sniped some of their tackle ships if it wasnt for the fact that out of the 23 ships on my KM, 7 are EWAR boats.
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Playing on the test server to see if something works takes so much of the magic out of the game. I really don't see the appeal, even for testing expensive ships or fits.
maybe people dont want to spend 1 hour soloing looking for a nice fight to test their fit just to discover the opponent has a falcon alt
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They do like their ewar don't they
Poll: Should Mumbleskates organize a roam into Molden Heath?Yes, it would be a great time if he did! (14) 93% No, I'd rather he stay where he is (1) 7% 15 total votes Your vote: Should Mumbleskates organize a roam into Molden Heath? (Vote): Yes, it would be a great time if he did! (Vote): No, I'd rather he stay where he is
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On May 03 2011 00:53 WiljushkA wrote:Show nested quote +Playing on the test server to see if something works takes so much of the magic out of the game. I really don't see the appeal, even for testing expensive ships or fits. maybe people dont want to spend 1 hour soloing looking for a nice fight to test their fit just to discover the opponent has a falcon alt That's my whole point really. If you are having trouble with the jitters, guaranteed cheap free fights in the kinds of ships you'll usually be flying is what the test server is all about. You can get some experience at just operating your ship and doing the right things at the right times. I wasn't saying you should substitute it for real PVP in any way, Sard, just that.
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I think Mumble just voted yes for my poll, interesting.
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Thats how trolls work.
I too went roaming with TEXN/Ransm (at least for like 10 minutes before I realized I had to go to sleep) and somehow ended up with top damage on a mega kill, despite everyone else in the gang being massively more skilled than me, and having a few battleships in fleet as well.
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Lalalaland34491 Posts
On May 03 2011 01:13 DiracMonopole wrote: Thats how trolls work.
I too went roaming with TEXN/Ransm (at least for like 10 minutes before I realized I had to go to sleep) and somehow ended up with top damage on a mega kill, despite everyone else in the gang being massively more skilled than me, and having a few battleships in fleet as well. They want you to feel good
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Then they shouldnt kill me with dirty tricks like black ops recons
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On May 03 2011 00:43 Mumbleskates wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2011 20:16 Warri wrote:On May 02 2011 15:29 Mumbleskates wrote: You guys seem content to continue in fixed and predictable tactics and engaging whatever flies in front of you just because you can, and engaging unwisely is the name of the game for you. That can be fun too I guess.
Please leave highsec and do some real pvp. Gosh, you wouldn't be assuming anything about the way I play the game, would you?Show nested quote +On May 02 2011 20:36 pahndah wrote: Make note that you will need to bring a friend(s) since all of the beacons on test server is just a blob fest with capitals and stuff flying about. Sadly the test server is even easier to get blobbed than the real server and is only good for testing out 1v1 arranged duels unless you get a gang of 4-5 mates to fly around with you. QQ more. It's the Test Server, ships are free. Organize a small gang fight on your own if you don't like the beacons, it's not that hard. Show nested quote +On May 02 2011 22:55 Altaen wrote:On May 02 2011 17:12 JJoNeEightY wrote: You probably don't want to open this.
You have been warned.
I really enjoyed your write-up, keep it up. And screw that nameless guy that told you to go to the test server. Learning to work under the pressure of facing real loss is where the useful experience comes from. I look forward to seeing your EVE pvp career and write-ups continue and develop. And, one thing you'll always have over mumbleskates is verifiable killboard data. You know, I actually do have a name. It's right there above my posts. I have verifiable killboard data, but I don't need to flaunt it in front of everyone as if it is the only way to validate what I'm saying as reasonable.If you truly want to improve at PVP, doing more if it can only help. The test server is a fun and constructive way to do this without blowing through all your hard earned ISK. I've learned all kinds of things on the test server that I would have otherwise had to learn the hard way, and flying there is most of what taught me how to keep cool when a fight is going down and stay looking at the important parts of the screen instead of freaking out and missing something major. In summary, screw you too, guy. I'm just sharing what I learned. I'm not even sure if anyone knows whether or not you play this game yourself.
Unlike you, Altaen flies around MH, and is known to the people that frequent this forum. Unlike you, he has left his name available to those who want to look him up and check his credentials. Unlike you, he doesn't have to back up the things he posts, because he's of a known quality to 9POOL and other entities in MH.
It's not about flaunting data, its about showing that you're a reliable source of information, backed up by evidence of a killboard which hopefully is API verified. It means instead of just taking your posts at face value, which to me show that you've limited small gang and solo PvP experience, average understanding of mechanics and limited experience trying different fittings and tactics in the meat grinder of a real TQ environment.
Supply your actual IG name and you might be able to dispel that impression. Otherwise you're Mumbleskates, a faceless troll on TL with no ties to the greater community, that is incapable of contributing to a thread topic beyond whatever bittervet musings fit your fancy at the time.
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On May 03 2011 01:09 Body_Shield wrote: I think Mumble just voted yes for my poll, interesting. I didn't see your poll until just now, nor do I particularly care about your constant rambling about your mediocre lowsec region.
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I guess that'll be the end of your posting career here then too, since you don't care about us.
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On May 03 2011 01:34 Mumbleskates wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2011 01:09 Body_Shield wrote: I think Mumble just voted yes for my poll, interesting. I didn't see your poll until just now, nor do I particularly care about your constant rambling about your mediocre lowsec region.
All this rambling has you coming back for more, so you certainly do care.
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I've been playing eve since it's release back in 2003 and the game has remained a great one at that. While the learning curve is high, the rewards are also great.
I've been in VETO the last 2 + years and before that in a few other corps and have done everything you can do in EVE and it's still fun even if the 0.0 alliance blobs are crashing the game rofl.
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On May 03 2011 00:43 Mumbleskates wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2011 20:16 Warri wrote:On May 02 2011 15:29 Mumbleskates wrote: You guys seem content to continue in fixed and predictable tactics and engaging whatever flies in front of you just because you can, and engaging unwisely is the name of the game for you. That can be fun too I guess.
Please leave highsec and do some real pvp. Gosh, you wouldn't be assuming anything about the way I play the game, would you?Show nested quote +On May 02 2011 20:36 pahndah wrote: Make note that you will need to bring a friend(s) since all of the beacons on test server is just a blob fest with capitals and stuff flying about. Sadly the test server is even easier to get blobbed than the real server and is only good for testing out 1v1 arranged duels unless you get a gang of 4-5 mates to fly around with you. QQ more. It's the Test Server, ships are free. Organize a small gang fight on your own if you don't like the beacons, it's not that hard. Show nested quote +On May 02 2011 22:55 Altaen wrote:On May 02 2011 17:12 JJoNeEightY wrote: You probably don't want to open this.
You have been warned.
I really enjoyed your write-up, keep it up. And screw that nameless guy that told you to go to the test server. Learning to work under the pressure of facing real loss is where the useful experience comes from. I look forward to seeing your EVE pvp career and write-ups continue and develop. And, one thing you'll always have over mumbleskates is verifiable killboard data. You know, I actually do have a name. It's right there above my posts. I have verifiable killboard data, but I don't need to flaunt it in front of everyone as if it is the only way to validate what I'm saying as reasonable. If you truly want to improve at PVP, doing more if it can only help. The test server is a fun and constructive way to do this without blowing through all your hard earned ISK. I've learned all kinds of things on the test server that I would have otherwise had to learn the hard way, and flying there is most of what taught me how to keep cool when a fight is going down and stay looking at the important parts of the screen instead of freaking out and missing something major. In summary, screw you too, guy. I'm just sharing what I learned. I'm not even sure if anyone knows whether or not you play this game yourself.
I wasn't qqing. I was just telling him what he would likely expect when he logs on to the test server to look for pvp, not once in my post did I say the test server was bad idea to try stuff out. I simply said it was more blobby comparatively, which seems like a pretty neutral statement... Why do you take every little thing as an attack against you and try to make it look like you are the victim. I'm glad you agree about the beacons being bad and that organize something with your friends can be educational on the test server, which is the point I was trying to get across in my post.
Good to hear you keep a cool head during one of your eve fights, now if you could just do that in this thread...
Also it doesn't help your image that you've brushed off every level headed attempt that counters your advice as flawed by attacking the poster personally instead of providing evidence to the contrary that's not based on anecdotal evidence or very niche situations. Most recently the discussion regarding a thorax.
Edit: Realized my sentence structure was horrible. Fixed!
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Lalalaland34491 Posts
On May 03 2011 01:24 DiracMonopole wrote:Then they shouldnt kill me with dirty tricks like black ops recons  What? This would make me laugh so much if it happened to me.
Of course, only if I'm in a cheap ship :<
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It'd be pretty hilarious if Mumbleskates was that Dirty Protagonist guy who keeps hating on Kwark.
It'd be more hilarious if he has a worse efficiency than me with a KB full of Thorax losses. :p
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Either that or he's a highsec miner dreaming of doing pvp someday.
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On May 03 2011 02:49 pahndah wrote: Also it doesn't help your image that you've brushed off every level headed attempt that counters your advice as flawed by attacking the poster personally instead of providing evidence to the contrary that's not based on anecdotal evidence or very niche situations. Most recently the discussion regarding a thorax. Nobody provided any fixed evidence, and the usage of Thorax in gangs is neither niche nor anecdotal. The fact that you constantly refer to every tactic other than nano kiting Drakes as weird and impractical doesn't help your own image either...except with those who think exactly like you. Which is everyone here, including the majority of those who bother to moderate this unfortunate little forum.
Almost everyone here seems to wish that this were actually a private forum, and not a public one that other people can read and post on. Any outsider who does not praise your every action as if it were the most skilled and impressive thing they have ever seen is immediately and continuously ridiculed and dismissed as irrelevant and without knowledge, effectively ostracized almost before they lay down their first post.
I only came here because I thought you might appreciate some fresh perspective. In exchange, I have been called a troll, a liar, a shitty PVPer, I've been dismissed as clueless, as a purveyor of useless niche knowledge, and my tactics as impossible and not worth bothering with. All this and more simply for advocating the consistently successful tactics applied everywhere by several of the most successful PVP groups in the entire game. So, obviously, I was wrong. You want to keep on doing your own little thing, with no particular concern for how good it actually is, whether it is a good and effective thing to do, or how hostile your little posse is towards anyone who wants to try something new.
For instance, you can't be bothered to decide when you might be blobbed or not before engaging. You live in the region all the time, for heaven's sake. You should know by now who is who and what they tend to bring, and you should be able to have eyes and scouts to see local counts and d-scans off gates before you engage. The fact that you don't want to find out what you're up against doesn't mean you can't, or that it isn't easy, or that it won't save you reams of stupid, avoidable lossmails.
You seem perfectly content with your current quality of engagement, and to be frank I'm fine with it too. The worse you do, the better everyone else, myself included, looks in comparison. The groups I have flown with have always endorsed various and creative play and never-before-seen fittings that have any chance of working out, as long as they don't result in stupid losses. Many of them have gotten us great kills that we never would have otherwise gotten, or prevented losses we would otherwise have suffered. I wish that everyone could play the game like this, but I suppose someone will always be gun-fodder with predictable tactics.
Enjoy your game. I shan't be posting here much more, news which I'm sure many of you will gloat over for weeks to come. Inb4 martyrdom. Good forums don't have martyrs.
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Still no killboard link, just yet more whining about how we're bad for getting 85% with t1 budget ships and no skillpoints.
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On May 03 2011 04:08 KwarK wrote: Still no killboard link, just yet more whining about how we're bad for getting 85% with t1 budget ships and no skillpoints.
Hey KwarK, I'm curious... when have you ever said "You can't fly stuff besides X"? Last I checked it was just "Don't bring crazy shit if I'm FC and we haven't worked it out".
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