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Viceorvirtue
United States273 Posts
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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34504 Posts
During all of this there was a rupture and celestis on scan that we had been ignoring for bigger prey. Turns out they were sitting on a random site that Lith found with the ship scanner, so we warp in on them and kill them both. Nothing amazing. We see the tengu pilot rejoin local so we suspect that they are retrying their mission or they are trying to bait us. But we have a falcon that they still don't know about so whatever. We warp back to the mission and sure enough, the sleipnir is there to greet us. We all open on him aaaand the tengu pilot appears...in a falcon of his own! The sleipnir starts primarying me and I get shot down to half shields during the first jam cycle, during which our own falcon arrives and...does what a falcon does, preventing their falcon from jamming us anymore and their sleipnir from anally raping me. We spread points and shot the falcon into structure, but he...somehow got out. Ueber was the only one pointing him so he may somehow have gotten a jam when Lee failed his next jam cycle, I don't know. So the sleipnir dies. http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=9530303 fucking blueballed on the drops as usual edit 2: lith is upset i said he was carebearing but wtv | ||
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Cheesedawg
United States182 Posts
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Mumbleskates
82 Posts
Target painting drones, with stacking and whatnot: 3x TP-300 = 10% 5x TP-300 = 11.8% 3x TP-600 = 20.8% 5x TP-600 = 24.6% 1x TP-900 = 20% 2x TP-900 = 40.8% 3x TP-900 = 57% 4x TP-900 = 65.8% 5x TP-900 = 69.4% (With Signature Focusing trained to 4) 1x Target Painter II = 36% 2x Target Painter II = 78.6% 1x Domination Target Painter = 39.6% 2x Domination Target Painter = 87.6% As you can see, TP-900 drones are massively more powerful than the smaller sizes. In fact, if you can fit them at all and you think they will be able to keep up with your target, they are significantly better than flights of smalls or mediums in the same amount of drone bay/bandwidth (almost twice as good in fact). Hope this helps. Edit: Added regular target painters for comparison | ||
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Jayme
United States5866 Posts
What the hell? | ||
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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34504 Posts
Karah switches to a ham drake to sit with them at 0 in hopes that they will finally aggress. Sure enough they both aggress so we all warp to karah and lee decloaks his falcon, jamming both of them. Karah burns out his guns because he's bad and also goes down to 10% shields. We're brawling down the raven with neuts etc when suddenly the hyperion lights a cyno field. Few seconds later, a thanatos jumps into us. BUT NO MATTER, WE HAVE A FALCON. Karah warps out to repair guns, I warp out at 50% shields because I well, I was a bit of a pussy and didn't quite know just how gay falcons are. Lee proceeds to pretty much perma jam the carrier, letting us kill the raven. Lee then alternates his two gallente jams between the hyperion and the thanny preventing them from killing nyovne's rifter. The thanny is then useless as Karah comes back again in his ham drake and we brawl the hyperion down. http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=9530617 http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=9530618 It's been a good day and it's not even downtime yet. | ||
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Warri
Germany3208 Posts
Yes the hyperion decided too try and save his friend the raven and cyno a thanatos in. Our falcon gets a jam on it though and finally the raven goes down. Knowing the hyperion cant move for another 10 minutes I warp out and repair my guns. When im back we get every single jammer on the thanatos and start dpsing the hyperion and as soon as the falcon got a jam on the thanatos the hyperion melts away. Carrier decided not to go for us and dock up though  http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=9530617 http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=9530618 edit: beaten by fb, dammit :D | ||
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Ueberlisk
Finland455 Posts
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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34504 Posts
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vetinari
Australia602 Posts
Warri Germany. April 27 2011 19:39 lol. wd with the carrier kill, btw. | ||
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Body_Shield
Canada3368 Posts
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Jayme
United States5866 Posts
On April 27 2011 19:38 Firebolt145 wrote: So we're off carebearing again and lith has gone off but we gain karah and nyovne. We scout a raven and a hyperion on station 2 in oddel so karah goes and tries to bait them with the rest of us aligned off dscan. They blueball us for about 10 minutes, redocking over and over again while Karah nanos with them. Karah switches to a ham drake to sit with them at 0 in hopes that they will finally aggress. Sure enough they both aggress so we all warp to karah and lee decloaks his falcon, jamming both of them. Karah burns out his guns because he's bad and also goes down to 10% shields. We're brawling down the raven with neuts etc when suddenly the hyperion lights a cyno field. Few seconds later, a thanatos jumps into us. BUT NO MATTER, WE HAVE A FALCON. Karah warps out to repair guns, I warp out at 50% shields because I well, I was a bit of a pussy and didn't quite know just how gay falcons are. Lee proceeds to pretty much perma jam the carrier, letting us kill the raven. Lee then alternates his two gallente jams between the hyperion and the thanny preventing them from killing nyovne's rifter. The thanny is then useless as Karah comes back again in his ham drake and we brawl the hyperion down. http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=9530617 http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=9530618 It's been a good day and it's not even downtime yet. There is a reason that "BECAUSE OF FALCON" is a legitimate excuse when you lose a 3 or 4 v 1 you would have won otherwise. | ||
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bN`
Slovenia504 Posts
Sadly I have no idea how to fix this apart from redesigning ecm completely into something that hinders you but doesn't make you go "well guess I'll just sit here and do nothing" | ||
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iaretehnoob
Sweden741 Posts
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Snackbar
59 Posts
On April 27 2011 20:53 bN` wrote: The main problem I have with ecm is not that it's retardedly stupid when you're getting ganked. Eve isn't a game where the numbers should be regulated. Ecm is just a badly designed mechanic ,anything that prevents interaction is just bad gamewise and causes massive ammouts of frustration while also taking away from the falcon users experiance of actually being engaged in combat. One could argue that ecm is unfun. Sadly I have no idea how to fix this apart from redesigning ecm completely into something that hinders you but doesn't make you go "well guess I'll just sit here and do nothing" So warp scrams and webs are also unfun because it prevents you from going fast and warping away, ohnoes. | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On April 27 2011 21:05 Snackbar wrote: So warp scrams and webs are also unfun because it prevents you from going fast and warping away, ohnoes. And there's no way to negate any of them. Jammers can be retarded in sufficient numbers, but if there aren't enough, a lot of the ships that use them melt. | ||
tofucake
Hyrule19228 Posts
On April 27 2011 14:27 KwarK wrote: So Karah and fb pussied out but we still had a respectable fleet up and Lee wanted to take his new falcon for a spin. I didn't check his fit beforehand (more on this later) and we heard tell of a camp near muttokon. We headed out with 3 canes, 2 drakes, 2 rifters and a falcon and sure enough, there were a brutix, mael and myrm on gate. The fleet held while I went to spike it but unfortunately the mael and brutix warped off before I landed so I was forced to take potshots at the myrm, baitdrake style. His friend jumped through in a drake and opened up on me so I pointed him and the game was on. We jumped in and warped to me with the falcon staying hidden to try and lure them into escalating with their entire fleet before revealing the futility of it. Sure enough, they landed their fleet back on us and it was game on. However they had a surprise in store, the moment the battle got underway an archon landed. Things started badly with a gank fit brutix getting in cael's face while we couldn't get a jam (no gal jammers) but fortunately it's massive lack of tank meant that it got popped between repair cycles and Cael got free. While he was recovering his shields I set him with the task of finding me a fleet to deal with my archon so I could focus on FCing. Back on the field they had a harb, myrm, drake, mael, harb and raven escorting their archon but were struggling to really apply their dps. The harb got out of rep range and a rifter kept it there while we smashed it down. The first of Cael's volunteers landed on grid and I was pleased to see it was Suleiman Shouaa, a local cane pilot with a LOT of skill points, experience and dps. He wasn't on comms with us and the extent of our communication was him saying "that mael is arty fit, warn the rifters, I'm gonna kill it" before soloing it in about 30 seconds flat. They weren't getting anywhere as they were tied to the archon's rep range and we were nanoing so they did what anyone would and warped in a nid. We split our points between the carriers and the Xs in our intel channels started rolling in. Vanderie, the gunpoint FC, took over and we were quickly able to finish off the support in the form of a myrm, raven, blackbird and drake. Unfortunately the carriers decided they were committed and their support kept returning and Lee was sitting exactly 100k off an aligned point. A stabber fleet landed on him at 0 and 2 shotted his completely untanked hull, sending our shiny new falcon to its grave. Seconds later Sulei hulksmashed the SFI but still, .The entire op was getting pretty messy by this point and the free molden comms decided to crash on us which probably contributed to the death of a weird active tanked pest which was sitting within neut range of the carriers. It wasn't ours though but still, things weren't going perfectly. Gunpoint had cynoed in a carrier of their own (which vov promptly jammed) but they didn't have enough cyno fuel to bring in some dreads and the carriers weren't going down. They could have probably still logged out at this point despite us having 20 guys on the field. They continued to try and bring in support but there was just too much and all that they achieved was letting me headshot a falcon. We were very slowly breaking the archon's tank while we hit the nid with jams and neuts but it was painstaking work. People were bringing in alts, fuel, spare ammo and boosters to try and keep the damage up and eventually a cyno was lit up for two executioners dreadnoughts. Both carriers instantly self destructed but we were able to kill the archon about 15 seconds before it finished its timer. http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_related&kll_id=9529271 This battle report brought to you by: ze Kwarkenfuhrer | ||
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Trollhammer
Singapore94 Posts
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KwarK
United States44191 Posts
On April 27 2011 22:04 Trollhammer wrote: So my sec status finally fell below -5 and I can't run L4s due to low standings with the Minmatar (can only access up to high sec Matari L3 agents). Am I now restricted to belt ratting and/or low sec probing? Ask in corp to leech standings or run lowsec l3s. | ||
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Trollhammer
Singapore94 Posts
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