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DefMatrixUltra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada1992 Posts
April 28 2011 04:01 GMT
#10121
On April 28 2011 09:50 419 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2011 09:26 KwarK wrote:
Tried it again. Golem in structure this time.
I really thought we had it. 3 more people would have done it, part of the problem I think was the "are you sure" popup which appeared once per account and delayed things a lot, letting him get hardeners on.

What ships are you using, perchance? And what sec system are you ganking in?

@Def -- I'm not sure whether this is an option in your gangs, but AB rifter is very good for holding scram. IIRC I know a pilot that was able to keep an AB rifter scram (standard 200mm/SAR/DCU fit) on a Vagabond shooting (and presumably drone-targeting) him for over a minute, with half armor to spare.

MWD is a giant sig penalty, so vs gun tracking, active non-overheat MWD is effectively equivalent to no MWD. Not sure how it works with drones. But I understand you might need to burn ~50km or more for tackles so again, might not be worth swapping for AB (you could loldualprop but that probably doesn't fit decently at all).

Are you working with MSE or armor/scram/web type fits?


Armor fits are pretty much out of the question for fleet work. We use MSE and nanos with scram and MWD.

Whether the MWD is a penalty or not doesn't matter. I'm using acceleration and speed to fuck up the drone AI by making them overshoot and/or staying out of their effective fighting range. While I'm doing this I am at >90% shields the whole time because they just plain can't hit me. Meanwhile the target that I'm semi-orbiting is completely unable to hit me.

Since I'm burning around a rough ellipse, it's also quite difficult for other targets on the field to hit me unless they are very luckily in the "small" plane of my ellipse. The problem with doing this is that at my current skills I'm not cap-stable - but 2m30s is a lot longer than I would normally last with several flights of Warrior II's on me and just trying to shoot them down.
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5464 Posts
April 28 2011 04:08 GMT
#10122
I'm literally an inch away from joining you guys. Your exploits sound so interesting. Maybe right after finals I'll hop on.
[formerly sponsored by the artist formerly known as Gene]
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
April 28 2011 04:20 GMT
#10123
On April 28 2011 13:01 DefMatrixUltra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2011 09:50 419 wrote:
On April 28 2011 09:26 KwarK wrote:
Tried it again. Golem in structure this time.
I really thought we had it. 3 more people would have done it, part of the problem I think was the "are you sure" popup which appeared once per account and delayed things a lot, letting him get hardeners on.

What ships are you using, perchance? And what sec system are you ganking in?

@Def -- I'm not sure whether this is an option in your gangs, but AB rifter is very good for holding scram. IIRC I know a pilot that was able to keep an AB rifter scram (standard 200mm/SAR/DCU fit) on a Vagabond shooting (and presumably drone-targeting) him for over a minute, with half armor to spare.

MWD is a giant sig penalty, so vs gun tracking, active non-overheat MWD is effectively equivalent to no MWD. Not sure how it works with drones. But I understand you might need to burn ~50km or more for tackles so again, might not be worth swapping for AB (you could loldualprop but that probably doesn't fit decently at all).

Are you working with MSE or armor/scram/web type fits?


Armor fits are pretty much out of the question for fleet work. We use MSE and nanos with scram and MWD.

Whether the MWD is a penalty or not doesn't matter. I'm using acceleration and speed to fuck up the drone AI by making them overshoot and/or staying out of their effective fighting range. While I'm doing this I am at >90% shields the whole time because they just plain can't hit me. Meanwhile the target that I'm semi-orbiting is completely unable to hit me.

Since I'm burning around a rough ellipse, it's also quite difficult for other targets on the field to hit me unless they are very luckily in the "small" plane of my ellipse. The problem with doing this is that at my current skills I'm not cap-stable - but 2m30s is a lot longer than I would normally last with several flights of Warrior II's on me and just trying to shoot them down.


You use Nano with Scrams?

I'm sorry but that makes no sense at all.
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44414 Posts
April 28 2011 04:29 GMT
#10124
On April 28 2011 13:20 Jayme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2011 13:01 DefMatrixUltra wrote:
On April 28 2011 09:50 419 wrote:
On April 28 2011 09:26 KwarK wrote:
Tried it again. Golem in structure this time.
I really thought we had it. 3 more people would have done it, part of the problem I think was the "are you sure" popup which appeared once per account and delayed things a lot, letting him get hardeners on.

What ships are you using, perchance? And what sec system are you ganking in?

@Def -- I'm not sure whether this is an option in your gangs, but AB rifter is very good for holding scram. IIRC I know a pilot that was able to keep an AB rifter scram (standard 200mm/SAR/DCU fit) on a Vagabond shooting (and presumably drone-targeting) him for over a minute, with half armor to spare.

MWD is a giant sig penalty, so vs gun tracking, active non-overheat MWD is effectively equivalent to no MWD. Not sure how it works with drones. But I understand you might need to burn ~50km or more for tackles so again, might not be worth swapping for AB (you could loldualprop but that probably doesn't fit decently at all).

Are you working with MSE or armor/scram/web type fits?


Armor fits are pretty much out of the question for fleet work. We use MSE and nanos with scram and MWD.

Whether the MWD is a penalty or not doesn't matter. I'm using acceleration and speed to fuck up the drone AI by making them overshoot and/or staying out of their effective fighting range. While I'm doing this I am at >90% shields the whole time because they just plain can't hit me. Meanwhile the target that I'm semi-orbiting is completely unable to hit me.

Since I'm burning around a rough ellipse, it's also quite difficult for other targets on the field to hit me unless they are very luckily in the "small" plane of my ellipse. The problem with doing this is that at my current skills I'm not cap-stable - but 2m30s is a lot longer than I would normally last with several flights of Warrior II's on me and just trying to shoot them down.


You use Nano with Scrams?

I'm sorry but that makes no sense at all.

He's a rifter. MSE, scram, mwd, nanox2, dcu
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
DefMatrixUltra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada1992 Posts
April 28 2011 05:48 GMT
#10125
On April 28 2011 13:20 Jayme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2011 13:01 DefMatrixUltra wrote:
On April 28 2011 09:50 419 wrote:
On April 28 2011 09:26 KwarK wrote:
Tried it again. Golem in structure this time.
I really thought we had it. 3 more people would have done it, part of the problem I think was the "are you sure" popup which appeared once per account and delayed things a lot, letting him get hardeners on.

What ships are you using, perchance? And what sec system are you ganking in?

@Def -- I'm not sure whether this is an option in your gangs, but AB rifter is very good for holding scram. IIRC I know a pilot that was able to keep an AB rifter scram (standard 200mm/SAR/DCU fit) on a Vagabond shooting (and presumably drone-targeting) him for over a minute, with half armor to spare.

MWD is a giant sig penalty, so vs gun tracking, active non-overheat MWD is effectively equivalent to no MWD. Not sure how it works with drones. But I understand you might need to burn ~50km or more for tackles so again, might not be worth swapping for AB (you could loldualprop but that probably doesn't fit decently at all).

Are you working with MSE or armor/scram/web type fits?


Armor fits are pretty much out of the question for fleet work. We use MSE and nanos with scram and MWD.

Whether the MWD is a penalty or not doesn't matter. I'm using acceleration and speed to fuck up the drone AI by making them overshoot and/or staying out of their effective fighting range. While I'm doing this I am at >90% shields the whole time because they just plain can't hit me. Meanwhile the target that I'm semi-orbiting is completely unable to hit me.

Since I'm burning around a rough ellipse, it's also quite difficult for other targets on the field to hit me unless they are very luckily in the "small" plane of my ellipse. The problem with doing this is that at my current skills I'm not cap-stable - but 2m30s is a lot longer than I would normally last with several flights of Warrior II's on me and just trying to shoot them down.


You use Nano with Scrams?

I'm sorry but that makes no sense at all.


You just read the first sentence?
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
April 28 2011 05:52 GMT
#10126
On April 28 2011 14:48 DefMatrixUltra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2011 13:20 Jayme wrote:
On April 28 2011 13:01 DefMatrixUltra wrote:
On April 28 2011 09:50 419 wrote:
On April 28 2011 09:26 KwarK wrote:
Tried it again. Golem in structure this time.
I really thought we had it. 3 more people would have done it, part of the problem I think was the "are you sure" popup which appeared once per account and delayed things a lot, letting him get hardeners on.

What ships are you using, perchance? And what sec system are you ganking in?

@Def -- I'm not sure whether this is an option in your gangs, but AB rifter is very good for holding scram. IIRC I know a pilot that was able to keep an AB rifter scram (standard 200mm/SAR/DCU fit) on a Vagabond shooting (and presumably drone-targeting) him for over a minute, with half armor to spare.

MWD is a giant sig penalty, so vs gun tracking, active non-overheat MWD is effectively equivalent to no MWD. Not sure how it works with drones. But I understand you might need to burn ~50km or more for tackles so again, might not be worth swapping for AB (you could loldualprop but that probably doesn't fit decently at all).

Are you working with MSE or armor/scram/web type fits?


Armor fits are pretty much out of the question for fleet work. We use MSE and nanos with scram and MWD.

Whether the MWD is a penalty or not doesn't matter. I'm using acceleration and speed to fuck up the drone AI by making them overshoot and/or staying out of their effective fighting range. While I'm doing this I am at >90% shields the whole time because they just plain can't hit me. Meanwhile the target that I'm semi-orbiting is completely unable to hit me.

Since I'm burning around a rough ellipse, it's also quite difficult for other targets on the field to hit me unless they are very luckily in the "small" plane of my ellipse. The problem with doing this is that at my current skills I'm not cap-stable - but 2m30s is a lot longer than I would normally last with several flights of Warrior II's on me and just trying to shoot them down.


You use Nano with Scrams?

I'm sorry but that makes no sense at all.


You just read the first sentence?


Well no but nothing you said really suggests that armor fits can't work. I assumed you were talking about a bigger ship because armor fits on a frigate aren't really a huge difference from shield setups honestly.

I suppose that's my bad.
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
DiracMonopole
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1555 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-28 14:03:09
April 28 2011 06:07 GMT
#10127


Well no but nothing you said really suggests that armor fits can't work. I assumed you were talking about a bigger ship because armor fits on a frigate aren't really a huge difference from shield setups honestly.

I suppose that's my bad.


The difference in speed and acceleration is big enough that it makes the difference between getting suicide points on expensive things and having those things get away
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34507 Posts
April 28 2011 07:56 GMT
#10128
So I hear someone's calling me firebird now
Moderator
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
April 28 2011 12:07 GMT
#10129
So, if anyone's seen the Eve Server status rainmeter skin floating around, I took that, and modded it to also list Character name and wallet.

I'm looking for a functional way to make a skin that does a lot more, like active ship and skill training queue, but I think I'm SOL until they open up public profiles on Evegate.

If anyone wants the skin, let me know.
Body_Shield
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada3373 Posts
April 28 2011 12:11 GMT
#10130
I would like to look at it for sure.
So, five-card stud, nothing wild... and the sky's the limit
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-28 12:25:26
April 28 2011 12:23 GMT
#10131
On April 28 2011 21:11 Body_Shield wrote:
I would like to look at it for sure.


+ Show Spoiler +

;:: EVE ONLINE SERVER STATUS+::::::::::::::::::::
; Based on the original work of Projectseven, Steven.Baron@hotmail.com;
; Riechao, Pikewb@gmail.com, Kaelri.LCD@gmail.com and Uhlen
[Rainmeter]
Author=JingleHell
AppVersion=1.0
Update=1000

[Metadata]
Name=EVE Server Status
Config=EVE
Description=Displays EVE Online's Tranquility Server Status.
Instructions=None.
Version=1.0
License=Creative Commons Attribution-Non-Commercial-Share Alike 3.0


[Variables]
@include=#SKINSPATH#EVE\Resources\Variables\UserVariables.inc
Color1=128, 192, 255, 217

;:: MEASURES ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
[MeasureRSSFeed]
Measure=Plugin
Plugin=Plugins\WebParser.dll
UpdateRate=60
Url=http://api.eve-online.com/server/ServerStatus.xml.aspx
Debug=1
StringIndex=1
FinishAction=!RainmeterRedraw
RegExp="(?siU)<currentTime>(.*) (.*)</currentTime>(.*)<serverOpen>(.*)</serverOpen>(.*)<onlinePlayers>(.*)</onlinePlayers>"

[MeasureCurrentTime]
Measure=Plugin
Plugin=Plugins\WebParser.dll
Url=[MeasureRSSFeed]
StringIndex=2

[MeasureOnlineStatus]
Measure=Plugin
Plugin=Plugins\WebParser.dll
Url=[MeasureRSSFeed]
StringIndex=4
Substitute="True":"Online","False":"Offline"

[MeasureOnlinePlayers]
Measure=Plugin
Plugin=Plugins\WebParser.dll
Url=[MeasureRSSFeed]
StringIndex=6

[MeasureCName]
Measure=Plugin
Plugin=Plugins\WebParser.dll
;After the "=" Plug in the URL I told you to get.
URL=""
RegExp="(?si)<name>(.*)</name>.*(?si)<balance>(.*)</balance>"
StringIndex=1
UpdateRate=120

[MeasureISK]
Measure=Plugin
Plugin=Plugins\WebParser.dll
URL=[MeasureCName]
StringIndex=2

;:: STYLES ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


[StyleLabel]
FontColor=128, 192, 255, 217
FontFace=#Font#
FontSize=#Height3#
StringStyle=NORMAL
AntiAlias=1

[StyleText]
FontColor=128, 192, 255, 217
FontFace=#Font#
FontSize=#Height3#
StringStyle=NORMAL
AntiAlias=1


;:: METERS ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
[Border]
Meter=IMAGE
SolidColor=128, 192, 255, 217
X=0
Y=1
W=180
H=1
[Background]
Meter=IMAGE
SolidColor=0, 0, 0, 2
X=0
Y=1
W=180
H=66
[Border2]
Meter=IMAGE
MeterStyle=Border
Y=18

[Border3]
Meter=IMAGE
MeterStyle=Border
Y=92

;:: LABELS ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
[LabelTitle]
Meter=STRING
MeterStyle=StyleText
Text=EVE ONLINE :: Tranquility
StringStyle=BOLD
x=21
y=5
[LabelServerTime]
Meter=STRING
MeterStyle=StyleLabel
Text="Server Time:"
StringAlign=LEFT
x=8
y=24
[LabelOnlineStatus]
Meter=STRING
MeterStyle=StyleLabel
Text="Online Status:"
StringAlign=LEFT
x=8
y=38
[LabelPlayersOnline]
Meter=STRING
MeterStyle=StyleLabel
Text="Players Online:"
StringAlign=LEFT
x=8
y=52

[LabelCName]
Meter=STRING
MeterStyle=StyleLabel
x=8
y=66
StringAlign=Left
Text="Name:"

[MeterISK]
MeasureName=MeasureISK
Meter=STRING
MeterStyle=StyleLabel
x=8
y=80
StringAlign=Left
Prefix="ISK: "

;:: TEXT ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

[MeterCurrentTime]
Meter=STRING
MeasureName=MeasureCurrentTime
MeterStyle=StyleText
;Text=""
x=125
y=24
[MeterOnlineStatus]
Meter=STRING
MeasureName=MeasureOnlineStatus
MeterStyle=StyleText
x=125
y=38
[MeterOnlinePlayers]
Meter=STRING
MeasureName=MeasureOnlinePlayers
MeterStyle=StyleText
x=125
y=52

[MeterCName]
MeasureName=MeasureCName
Meter=STRING
MeterStyle=StyleLabel
x=125
y=66
StringAlign=Left


Instructions: Sign into Eve Insider on the main eve page.
Select the Character you want to monitor.
Click on the table the link that says "XML Data".
Open the skins .ini file.
Find [MeasureCName] under heading [Measures] Near the top.
Copy/Paste the URL into the line " URL="" "in between the quotes.
Save the edited .ini file, and load the skin.

Sorry for manual edit, but I just started learning this yesterday. Full credits for the skin are listed, I just added the character and wallet data parts.

Once CCP turns off the temporary privacy on Public Eve Gates, I should be able to refine this to use that instead, and get all the cool data, like active ship, skill queue, and whatnot.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34507 Posts
April 28 2011 12:24 GMT
#10132
Can you post a screenshot?
Moderator
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-28 12:37:35
April 28 2011 12:29 GMT
#10133
+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]


Here ya go.

Just realized the instructions blatantly assume you know how to make a .ini skin. If anyone doesn't get how to turn that pile of raw text into a functioning skin, I'll add that to instructions.

Moreso, I just realized I screwed up. I gave you way less than you need. Link to original skin DL.

Contains the resources the guy had set up that way, and will actually turn into a skin. Still have to edit the .ini with my stuff, but that should be enough to make it work.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
April 28 2011 13:42 GMT
#10134
EVGA is having a sweepstakes for a rather sexy rig with a custom Eve case right now.

http://www.evga.com/articles/00625/

Figured you guys might be down.
WiljushkA
Profile Joined March 2006
Serbia1416 Posts
April 28 2011 13:47 GMT
#10135
stop spreading it around dude, youre ruining our chances.
"As much as I love the image of me F5-ing paypal every 15 minutes while fist pumping and screaming "SHIP THE MONEY BITCHES"" - Day9
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
April 28 2011 13:53 GMT
#10136
On April 28 2011 22:47 WiljushkA wrote:
stop spreading it around dude, youre ruining our chances.


Meh, I kept it to the Eve board, instead of really putting it out there. Not like one in millions is a great chance anyway. I'm not even sure what I'd do with my current PC if I won that one... guess give it to my wife, she needs an upgrade... then we could give her C2D machine to our son for his second birthday...
Body_Shield
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada3373 Posts
April 28 2011 13:56 GMT
#10137
Makes me want to upgrade my comp again
So, five-card stud, nothing wild... and the sky's the limit
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
April 28 2011 14:00 GMT
#10138
On April 28 2011 22:56 Body_Shield wrote:
Makes me want to upgrade my comp again


Me too, mines really down there. My old one died with terrible timing, about 6 months before Sandy Bridge came out, so I had to build X58 for top end. I really want P67, but my wife would slap me if I even mentioned buying new parts, especially since she's running core2. (Her choice, she didn't feel like she needed more PC.)

Body_Shield
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada3373 Posts
April 28 2011 14:09 GMT
#10139
Well mine was about $2200 last year, so I shouldn't really be looking to upgrade. I think I'll be waiting for the bulldozer stuff from AMD.

Maybe some larger SSDs when the prices come down.
So, five-card stud, nothing wild... and the sky's the limit
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
April 28 2011 14:22 GMT
#10140
Jesus, what have you got in there, SLI 480s? I've got a $200 dollar case, and even including peripherals and the 32" HDTV I use for a monitor, with 1366 and SLI 460s, I'm nowhere near that price point.
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