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Valenius
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1266 Posts
April 18 2011 00:33 GMT
#9541
On April 18 2011 09:23 Ramiel wrote:
but do you like WH?


The only time i've been in a wormhole ended up in me getting my ship killed, and us collapsing the angry russians wormhole. I hated it.
Body_Shield
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada3373 Posts
April 18 2011 01:00 GMT
#9542
And then all of the rifters died
So, five-card stud, nothing wild... and the sky's the limit
Belegorm
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States330 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-18 01:25:12
April 18 2011 01:19 GMT
#9543
Hmm... I've got 1.7 SP mil allocated, like 226k unallocated. Most of the stuff that's allocated should be designed around making my rifters better.

Actually no lol, I didn't have a caracal I had a rupture, lol. Random ships too, my old pirate corp changed to a pansy high-sec corp.
MUM GIVE ME SOME SCISSORS!!!
Inzek
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Chile802 Posts
April 18 2011 01:28 GMT
#9544
ruppys are cool
Stork FAN!!!
Viceorvirtue
Profile Joined July 2010
United States273 Posts
April 18 2011 02:19 GMT
#9545
I just kwark'd a hurricane. Shortly after ganking a missioner in odd I warp back to the mission to land next to a stiletto and a tempest. I immediately call for people to warp to me and attempt to burn away from the tempest while shooting at the stiletto. This turns out to be a bad idea as the tempest is atry fit and easily guns me down nearly 80k away when my mwd burns out. Everyone else seems to completely fail and is somehow unable to point the tempest before it can kill me and get away. This wouldnt have been nearly as bad if I had remembered to drop off the 20mil or so worth of loot I was carrying from the earlier gank.
Capiru
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil170 Posts
April 18 2011 03:29 GMT
#9546
On April 18 2011 11:19 Viceorvirtue wrote:
I just kwark'd a hurricane. Shortly after ganking a missioner in odd I warp back to the mission to land next to a stiletto and a tempest. I immediately call for people to warp to me and attempt to burn away from the tempest while shooting at the stiletto. This turns out to be a bad idea as the tempest is atry fit and easily guns me down nearly 80k away when my mwd burns out. Everyone else seems to completely fail and is somehow unable to point the tempest before it can kill me and get away. This wouldnt have been nearly as bad if I had remembered to drop off the 20mil or so worth of loot I was carrying from the earlier gank.

Sad is, i was going 1.4k heated and the pest was going 1.7k, and the rifter stood there and managed to not point either the stiletto or the pest
Inzek
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Chile802 Posts
April 18 2011 04:08 GMT
#9547
so sb cant use cov ops cloak? t3 can... (if true.. sb cant warp cloaked??)
sb has no delay after decloaking... t3 has 3 sec?


Stork FAN!!!
psycroptic
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada115 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-18 04:15:39
April 18 2011 04:14 GMT
#9548
On April 18 2011 12:29 Capiru wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2011 11:19 Viceorvirtue wrote:
I just kwark'd a hurricane. Shortly after ganking a missioner in odd I warp back to the mission to land next to a stiletto and a tempest. I immediately call for people to warp to me and attempt to burn away from the tempest while shooting at the stiletto. This turns out to be a bad idea as the tempest is atry fit and easily guns me down nearly 80k away when my mwd burns out. Everyone else seems to completely fail and is somehow unable to point the tempest before it can kill me and get away. This wouldnt have been nearly as bad if I had remembered to drop off the 20mil or so worth of loot I was carrying from the earlier gank.

Sad is, i was going 1.4k heated and the pest was going 1.7k, and the rifter stood there and managed to not point either the stiletto or the pest
sup, rifter here. i warp in, you tell me to point the pest. he's already at least 50k away from me. i start burning towards him as fast as i can, which is about 2.5k since my nav skills are bad and i dont have thermo. you patronize me by explaining that i should simply APPROACH him with my mwd, i'd already been doing so for 10 seconds. i couldn't fucking catch him, sorry bro. i maybe closed 20k before he warped off.

tried to explain it to you but apparently that wasn't good enough, nice post idiot.

i'm new and im bad but im not a fucking retard.

en taro tassadar



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Sard Caid
Profile Joined February 2011
124 Posts
April 18 2011 04:20 GMT
#9549
On April 18 2011 12:29 Capiru wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2011 11:19 Viceorvirtue wrote:
I just kwark'd a hurricane. Shortly after ganking a missioner in odd I warp back to the mission to land next to a stiletto and a tempest. I immediately call for people to warp to me and attempt to burn away from the tempest while shooting at the stiletto. This turns out to be a bad idea as the tempest is atry fit and easily guns me down nearly 80k away when my mwd burns out. Everyone else seems to completely fail and is somehow unable to point the tempest before it can kill me and get away. This wouldnt have been nearly as bad if I had remembered to drop off the 20mil or so worth of loot I was carrying from the earlier gank.

Sad is, i was going 1.4k heated and the pest was going 1.7k, and the rifter stood there and managed to not point either the stiletto or the pest


Yeah, I just stuck around to see if I could volley the Rifter, and when that missed we got out. Besides, HMLs from the drakes were hurting quite a bit once the 9POOL gang was on grid and burning at my pest.
kef
Profile Joined September 2010
283 Posts
April 18 2011 04:23 GMT
#9550
Get used to it psycroptic, I had a similar instance with a certain person in corp being a dick to me and ending up being wrong. You'll be lucky if you get an apology in the end...

btw guys as you probably would've noticed if it had mattered to anyone, I cancelled my subscription, ever since the hatch moved to lowsec eve lost all its luster for me. Just didn't feel like trying to tiptoe around the higher ups hunting missioners anymore, and running around wh space with rl friends was boring as fuck

/rant

back to sc2!

There are two kinds of people in this world: people who say there are two kinds of people in the world and people who know the first group of people are full of shit.
psycroptic
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada115 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-18 04:29:41
April 18 2011 04:29 GMT
#9551
On April 18 2011 13:23 kef wrote:
Get used to it psycroptic, I had a similar instance with a certain person in corp being a dick to me and ending up being wrong. You'll be lucky if you get an apology in the end...

btw guys as you probably would've noticed if it had mattered to anyone, I cancelled my subscription, ever since the hatch moved to lowsec eve lost all its luster for me. Just didn't feel like trying to tiptoe around the higher ups hunting missioners anymore, and running around wh space with rl friends was boring as fuck

/rant

back to sc2!


i've had no other problems with people and i don't care about apologies. just wanted to clear that up.
TurpinOS
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada1223 Posts
April 18 2011 04:31 GMT
#9552
On April 18 2011 13:14 psycroptic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2011 12:29 Capiru wrote:
On April 18 2011 11:19 Viceorvirtue wrote:
I just kwark'd a hurricane. Shortly after ganking a missioner in odd I warp back to the mission to land next to a stiletto and a tempest. I immediately call for people to warp to me and attempt to burn away from the tempest while shooting at the stiletto. This turns out to be a bad idea as the tempest is atry fit and easily guns me down nearly 80k away when my mwd burns out. Everyone else seems to completely fail and is somehow unable to point the tempest before it can kill me and get away. This wouldnt have been nearly as bad if I had remembered to drop off the 20mil or so worth of loot I was carrying from the earlier gank.

Sad is, i was going 1.4k heated and the pest was going 1.7k, and the rifter stood there and managed to not point either the stiletto or the pest
sup, rifter here. i warp in, you tell me to point the pest. he's already at least 50k away from me. i start burning towards him as fast as i can, which is about 2.5k since my nav skills are bad and i dont have thermo. you patronize me by explaining that i should simply APPROACH him with my mwd, i'd already been doing so for 10 seconds. i couldn't fucking catch him, sorry bro. i maybe closed 20k before he warped off.

tried to explain it to you but apparently that wasn't good enough, nice post idiot.

i'm new and im bad but im not a fucking retard.

en taro tassadar



Appraoching an arti pest....gem really has the best of ideas.

dont listen to him.
http://eve.znaor.hr/pimpmydomi/
Ramiel
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1220 Posts
April 18 2011 04:31 GMT
#9553
On April 18 2011 13:08 Inzek wrote:
so sb cant use cov ops cloak? t3 can... (if true.. sb cant warp cloaked??)
sb has no delay after decloaking... t3 has 3 sec?




The SB can use a cov ops cloak. Yes it can warp cloaked, and no it does not have any delay. The T3 ships with the proper mods can fit a cov ops cloak, and the targeting delay is not huge- im pretty sure that it is 5sec but i could be wrong.
A thread vaguely bashing SC2? SWARM ON, LOW POST COUNT BRETHREN! DEFEND THE GLORIOUS GAME THAT IS OUR LIVELIHOOD
Capiru
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil170 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-18 04:47:47
April 18 2011 04:41 GMT
#9554
On April 18 2011 13:31 TurpinOS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2011 13:14 psycroptic wrote:
On April 18 2011 12:29 Capiru wrote:
On April 18 2011 11:19 Viceorvirtue wrote:
I just kwark'd a hurricane. Shortly after ganking a missioner in odd I warp back to the mission to land next to a stiletto and a tempest. I immediately call for people to warp to me and attempt to burn away from the tempest while shooting at the stiletto. This turns out to be a bad idea as the tempest is atry fit and easily guns me down nearly 80k away when my mwd burns out. Everyone else seems to completely fail and is somehow unable to point the tempest before it can kill me and get away. This wouldnt have been nearly as bad if I had remembered to drop off the 20mil or so worth of loot I was carrying from the earlier gank.

Sad is, i was going 1.4k heated and the pest was going 1.7k, and the rifter stood there and managed to not point either the stiletto or the pest
sup, rifter here. i warp in, you tell me to point the pest. he's already at least 50k away from me. i start burning towards him as fast as i can, which is about 2.5k since my nav skills are bad and i dont have thermo. you patronize me by explaining that i should simply APPROACH him with my mwd, i'd already been doing so for 10 seconds. i couldn't fucking catch him, sorry bro. i maybe closed 20k before he warped off.

tried to explain it to you but apparently that wasn't good enough, nice post idiot.

i'm new and im bad but im not a fucking retard.

en taro tassadar


Appraoching an arti pest....gem really has the best of ideas.

dont listen to him.

He was like "What to do" i said "Approach, turn mwd on" So fuck you don't be a bitch about it. It was the easiest way for him to understand, not that anyone is stupid. But keeping a transversal is not hard or difficult at all, but you gotta understand why and how it's done. If i were to ask any of you to burn at a target you would keep a transversal.

And at the time, we didnt knew he was artie fitted, vov only mentioned it later on after he died. All my focus was on getting that pest pointed, i didnt even realise vov was dying until he got popped.

Stop bitching.

User was temp banned for this post.
Ramiel
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1220 Posts
April 18 2011 04:49 GMT
#9555
Alright so i have some time on my hands, and i feel like writing down another lulzy kill that i had recently. Like normal i was chilling out in my C2 WH. I was just coming back from the gym, when i randomly decided to press D scan. I must have just had great luck that night- because i had a few sleeper wreaks show up, along with a myrm and a hyperion. I d scanned them out, and warped to them with out ever needed into pop a probe.

Once i hit the grid i noticed that they were just finishing up their site. I check the pilots bio while i was waiting for them to finish with my site, and noticed that the hyperion pilot is only 6 months old. Now any competent eve pilot will tell you that being able to fly a battleship with out any support skills is just an expensive waste. Worse still- this guy only had t1 drones- and was using a full flight of hammie 1's at the time. this basically means that against my purifer he can't do a single thing to me- provided that he doesn't have friends.

Anyway these two pilots finish up the site (VERY SLOWLY) i might add- and the myrm pilot jumps off back to his pos to grab a noctis. I start moving towards the center of the wreak pile, and await my easy money. Now i am more impressed with these guys, than the last noctis i blew up. But the problem here is- a BS is not going to hit my SB. Ever....

While the noctis was cleaning up his mess, the hyperion was slow boating around / away from his salvager. I will never understand why... because he was way out of his drone control range (not like hammies going at 1237 m/s is going to catch me anyway) but needless ot say i was going to teach him a free lesson. Once the noctis had finished grabbing all of the wreaks, I de cloaked as usual about 22k off him, and began to orbit. I made sure not to light the MWD and took the noctis down quickly (3 volly). Boom: http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=13011857 I then started to slow boat towards the wreak, when i noticed that the Hyperion had finally managed to lock me.

Sadly his 425mm prototype 1 gauss guns never hit their mark- and i looted the wreak and got out while loling in his face in local. i would have stuck around to finish that Hyperion, but the problem was I was un able to pod the noctis- and was worried about the myrm coming back. Both the myrm and the hyperion go back to the pos after another failed night of collecting any type of loot.

I thought that my night of fun would be over- but i was wrong. As i was chilling around in the WH again at the end of the night, i noticed a kestrel chilling out 100k from the static HS hole of the WH. I decided to have some fun with the guy, and uncloaked about 60k off him. Clearly he had been waiting for me, and the second i targeted him he came right at me with bloodshot eyes.

Sadly the fool did not have an MWD so i had to wait a bit longer to spring my trap. As i waited to fire my bomb, i started to pelt him with my torps. I hit with the first salvo and when i launched the second- i also let loose a bomb. Sadly that was the end for him, and his T1 frig went byby in the subsequent explosion. I guess according to this killboard: http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=Clif Reichle he managed to kill a fail fit hound with his T1 kestrel fit... Sadly i don't fly like an idiot and put him in his pod. http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=13023539

So overall not the most profitable of nights... But i always love killing cocky intys and t1 frigs in my bomber Till later TL- and if you ever want to come and join me, message me in game- or look for me in the SCBW channel.

Fly safe
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Capiru
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil170 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-18 05:30:55
April 18 2011 05:29 GMT
#9556
On April 18 2011 13:14 psycroptic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2011 12:29 Capiru wrote:
On April 18 2011 11:19 Viceorvirtue wrote:
I just kwark'd a hurricane. Shortly after ganking a missioner in odd I warp back to the mission to land next to a stiletto and a tempest. I immediately call for people to warp to me and attempt to burn away from the tempest while shooting at the stiletto. This turns out to be a bad idea as the tempest is atry fit and easily guns me down nearly 80k away when my mwd burns out. Everyone else seems to completely fail and is somehow unable to point the tempest before it can kill me and get away. This wouldnt have been nearly as bad if I had remembered to drop off the 20mil or so worth of loot I was carrying from the earlier gank.

Sad is, i was going 1.4k heated and the pest was going 1.7k, and the rifter stood there and managed to not point either the stiletto or the pest
sup, rifter here. i warp in, you tell me to point the pest. he's already at least 50k away from me. i start burning towards him as fast as i can, which is about 2.5k since my nav skills are bad and i dont have thermo. you patronize me by explaining that i should simply APPROACH him with my mwd, i'd already been doing so for 10 seconds. i couldn't fucking catch him, sorry bro. i maybe closed 20k before he warped off.

tried to explain it to you but apparently that wasn't good enough, nice post idiot.

i'm new and im bad but im not a fucking retard.

en taro tassadar



But I landed 50k off too, then how did i managed to burn him to point range and then get outburned and he gtfod? When he started to burn that's when i told the rifter to burn at him, because i was not going to be able to hold a point.
You were asking what to do. The simplest way to explain it, was "approach, turn mwd on", it sounded that you clearly didn't knew what you were doing, and you didn't. It's ok to ask if you don't know something and fuck completely and utterly up, i've done this myself several times. But don't bitch about it.
That pest was dropping, it was shield tanked and it was about to hit armor, even one single cycle of a point would be enough, if you were to scram him once we perhaps could all catch up with him.
Your job was simple, point the pest, and you were the only capable of doing it, you didn't do it. Stop bitching. We all fucked up at some point, but deal and learn with it.
Capiru
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil170 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-18 05:30:38
April 18 2011 05:29 GMT
#9557
Fucking quoted my post instead of editting it again, can an admin erase this post please.
Sard Caid
Profile Joined February 2011
124 Posts
April 18 2011 06:22 GMT
#9558
On April 18 2011 07:09 Viceorvirtue wrote:
There is a huge difference between having a probing bonus and not having a probing bonus when your trying to probe anything down. And in a wormhole where there may possibly be someone mining at a grav site, every second counts. The longer your probes are out, the lower your chances of actually getting a kill before your target hits dscan and warps out. Also the electronics subsystem is basically your utility subsystem and since your already perfectly able to gank the site running boats themselves (or atleast some of them) being able to probe more efficiently is probably your best bet.

One caveat to the lock timer delay is to ram your target ship to bump him off his alignment. With any luck this will allow you to take down most ships with the possible exception being destroyers because of their size and align time relative to your locking delay.


I used to probe and tackle all the time from a tackle fit Cheetah. Bump tackle can work from a frigate against BCs and smaller, though BCs are honestly pretty iffy. A frigate can't really affect the alignment of a BS too well in the second or two of time you have decloaking to bump a BS target, especially if you're AB fit.

I'd be comfortable bump tackling dessies or frigates with good success, as long as they didn't have guns!
Sard Caid
Profile Joined February 2011
124 Posts
April 18 2011 06:26 GMT
#9559
http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=9418295

Holy crap they've started fitting T2!
DiracMonopole
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1555 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-18 07:08:32
April 18 2011 07:04 GMT
#9560
On April 18 2011 15:26 Sard Caid wrote:
http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=9418295

Holy crap they've started fitting T2!


There was this crazy frigate free for all (along with some dictors) on the bosena gate in odde, so cael told me to grab w/e and come. First rifter I had was a t2 fit shield rifter (not the best choice). We took down that rifter, and suddenly everyone was either dead or gone. At some point Sard came back in a huginn, and some group chose that moment to jump through and kill it.

Then about 3 more massive fleets came though, and cael and i tried our best to fuck with them, but its hard to kill shit when you are outnumbered just by the recons.

(If it makes you feel any better, I got 3 intact armor plates from your salvage tyvm)

Addendum: I was salvaging the t2 wrecks in a warp stabbed rifter, when an eve-uni vagabond burned me down, pointed me, and I just carried on salvaging until I finished the wreck before I warped off.
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