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Boggler
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada234 Posts
May 25 2014 14:58 GMT
#36521
Boggler 4321

This toon is a bit of a mess. When I started out I was going for a Mach, and I think flew a Cane for lvl 2 missions.

Joined Hatch, got some Astrometrics and scanned a few sites for people. They split the drops sometimes if they were good and gave me close to 600m.

These days I fly a Merlin. Though I am getting tired of encountering a kiting ship 95% of the time. (Firetail)

Where to go now?

I want to be able to fly a SB before Amarr hits T3+ This will happen in the next few months (apparently), so I have time. The base skills needed are Electronics Upgrades 5, and the Race frig to 5 as well.

If I go Amarr, I should stick with the Hound. This means that if I go for an Interceptor, I should go for a Stiletto since it would take another week to get another race Frig 5.

The missile skills I need are for the Scourge Javelin Torpedo. Torpedo Launcher 2 = 20 days (Torpedo 5, etc)

Do I really need to fit the Covert Ops Cloaking Device 2? Thats another 5 days.

If needed, I can fly the low SP version (Arbalest Torpedo Launcher, with Caldari Navy Scourge Torpedo)

Or I could go down the T2 laser path, getting ready for something else.

Suggestions?
Time is money, friend!
Calanthe
Profile Joined October 2012
United States145 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-25 17:50:34
May 25 2014 16:25 GMT
#36522
I have many suggestions for your core skills. Would you like them?

e: Dumb question. Here.

Engineering:
Capacitor systems operation, electronics upgrades, energy grid upgrades to V.

Gunnery:
Controlled bursts, motion prediction, rapid firing, sharpshooter, and surgical strike to V. Trajectory analysis at least to IV.

Navigation:
Navigation, warp drive operation to V.

Spaceship command V

Targeting:
Target management, signature analysys, long range targeting to V

That'll do for now.


my heart's the bitter buffalo
DefMatrixUltra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada1992 Posts
May 25 2014 17:41 GMT
#36523
On May 26 2014 01:25 Calanthe wrote:
I have Trajectory Analysis up to IV and I feel like there was a reason for that other than "I got distracted," but I can't recall it now.


It's probably because falloff is for bitches.

Amarr victor,

Def
Boggler
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada234 Posts
May 25 2014 17:45 GMT
#36524
My lack of Gunnery skills at 5 is a good reason I don't win a lot of the close or near kill solo 1v1 in my Merlin.

Should head straight for an SB or round these out?

Motion Prediction is sitting at 91% done. Not sure why it was stopped. Guess I will finish this one off to 5. The rest are multiple day trains each.

Its a shame that these two paths are in opposite directions. Missiles vs Turrets
Time is money, friend!
Calanthe
Profile Joined October 2012
United States145 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-25 18:17:59
May 25 2014 18:13 GMT
#36525
On May 26 2014 02:41 DefMatrixUltra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2014 01:25 Calanthe wrote:
I have Trajectory Analysis up to IV and I feel like there was a reason for that other than "I got distracted," but I can't recall it now.


It's probably because falloff is for bitches.

Amarr victor,

Def

Too slow to edit that out. Rip me. There's like one skill out there somewhere that I was told never to train to V. Clearly can't recall it, but now I know that it wasn't trajectory analysis.
On May 26 2014 02:45 Boggler wrote:
My lack of Gunnery skills at 5 is a good reason

Your lack of gunnery skills at V is because you, like many, do not know what the fuck. Fortunately, you're in the right place for help. Can't comprehend syntax, please disregard. You're very right.
my heart's the bitter buffalo
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 25 2014 20:45 GMT
#36526
On May 26 2014 03:13 Calanthe wrote:
Too slow to edit that out. Rip me. There's like one skill out there somewhere that I was told never to train to V. Clearly can't recall it, but now I know that it wasn't trajectory analysis.


Hmm... Tactical Shield Manipulation?
0m3ga
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Serbia322 Posts
May 25 2014 22:13 GMT
#36527
http://podla.killmail.org/?a=kill_related&kll_id=23614176

Amarr Strong race

ps: 2 lokis got away
Don't you ever gf me back -Chessur
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43205 Posts
May 25 2014 22:22 GMT
#36528
https://zkillboard.com/kill/39094001/
https://zkillboard.com/kill/39091668/
https://zkillboard.com/kill/39091145/
https://zkillboard.com/kill/39090536/
https://zkillboard.com/kill/39091029/
https://zkillboard.com/kill/39090476/
https://zkillboard.com/kill/39090456/
https://zkillboard.com/kill/39090450/
https://zkillboard.com/kill/39090227/
https://zkillboard.com/kill/39089493/
https://zkillboard.com/kill/39087533/

my last hits for today, total kills were obviously way way higher including this which we bumped off of the undock
https://zkillboard.com/kill/39090222/

also killed some on my rom legion alts
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Ramiel
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1220 Posts
May 25 2014 22:35 GMT
#36529
On May 26 2014 07:13 0m3ga wrote:
http://podla.killmail.org/?a=kill_related&kll_id=23614176

Amarr Strong race

ps: 2 lokis got away


Damn that looks like some nice fighting. 100MN Tengu still so good amirite?
A thread vaguely bashing SC2? SWARM ON, LOW POST COUNT BRETHREN! DEFEND THE GLORIOUS GAME THAT IS OUR LIVELIHOOD
Ramiel
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1220 Posts
May 25 2014 22:37 GMT
#36530
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=23614190 <<<< Tengu from the same pilot that we killed in the chimera 2 hours prior
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=23613988 << Fucking Falcons
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=23613986
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=23613191
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=23609940
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=23610316
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Omigawa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1556 Posts
May 25 2014 23:15 GMT
#36531
On May 25 2014 23:58 Boggler wrote:
Boggler 4321

This toon is a bit of a mess. When I started out I was going for a Mach, and I think flew a Cane for lvl 2 missions.

Joined Hatch, got some Astrometrics and scanned a few sites for people. They split the drops sometimes if they were good and gave me close to 600m.

These days I fly a Merlin. Though I am getting tired of encountering a kiting ship 95% of the time. (Firetail)

Where to go now?

I want to be able to fly a SB before Amarr hits T3+ This will happen in the next few months (apparently), so I have time. The base skills needed are Electronics Upgrades 5, and the Race frig to 5 as well.

If I go Amarr, I should stick with the Hound. This means that if I go for an Interceptor, I should go for a Stiletto since it would take another week to get another race Frig 5.

The missile skills I need are for the Scourge Javelin Torpedo. Torpedo Launcher 2 = 20 days (Torpedo 5, etc)

Do I really need to fit the Covert Ops Cloaking Device 2? Thats another 5 days.

If needed, I can fly the low SP version (Arbalest Torpedo Launcher, with Caldari Navy Scourge Torpedo)

Or I could go down the T2 laser path, getting ready for something else.

Suggestions?


re: Stealth Bomber... use Arbalest torp launchers, T2 gimps your fit too much. Definitely train for Covops cloak, so you can warp cloaked.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34495 Posts
May 25 2014 23:24 GMT
#36532
https://zkillboard.com/kill/39078542/
https://zkillboard.com/kill/39079463/
https://zkillboard.com/kill/39079599/
https://zkillboard.com/kill/39079698/
https://zkillboard.com/kill/39087313/
https://zkillboard.com/kill/39087358/
https://zkillboard.com/kill/39087434/
https://zkillboard.com/kill/39087754/
https://zkillboard.com/kill/39089085/
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Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4211 Posts
May 26 2014 00:03 GMT
#36533
On May 26 2014 08:15 Omigawa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2014 23:58 Boggler wrote:
Boggler 4321

This toon is a bit of a mess. When I started out I was going for a Mach, and I think flew a Cane for lvl 2 missions.

Joined Hatch, got some Astrometrics and scanned a few sites for people. They split the drops sometimes if they were good and gave me close to 600m.

These days I fly a Merlin. Though I am getting tired of encountering a kiting ship 95% of the time. (Firetail)

Where to go now?

I want to be able to fly a SB before Amarr hits T3+ This will happen in the next few months (apparently), so I have time. The base skills needed are Electronics Upgrades 5, and the Race frig to 5 as well.

If I go Amarr, I should stick with the Hound. This means that if I go for an Interceptor, I should go for a Stiletto since it would take another week to get another race Frig 5.

The missile skills I need are for the Scourge Javelin Torpedo. Torpedo Launcher 2 = 20 days (Torpedo 5, etc)

Do I really need to fit the Covert Ops Cloaking Device 2? Thats another 5 days.

If needed, I can fly the low SP version (Arbalest Torpedo Launcher, with Caldari Navy Scourge Torpedo)

Or I could go down the T2 laser path, getting ready for something else.

Suggestions?


re: Stealth Bomber... use Arbalest torp launchers, T2 gimps your fit too much. Definitely train for Covops cloak, so you can warp cloaked.

T2 launchers can get higher dps overall, and you have 20 torps loaded per launcher instead of 18, which allows you to finish some missions faster because that 2 extra shots prevents you from having to reload. It's not necessarily a bad thing to train, but is definitely not necessary at first.
~ \(ˌ)im-ˈpər-vē-əs\ : not capable of being damaged or harmed.
Boggler
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada234 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-26 01:51:26
May 26 2014 01:50 GMT
#36534
Hounds Fits. I hope its Hound I use against Minmatar in FW

Fits mostly stolen from the FW guide, and transferred to a Hound!
+ Show Spoiler +
[Hound, Low SP]
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
[empty low slot]

1MN Afterburner II
Sensor Booster II, Targeting Range Script
Sensor Booster II, Targeting Range Script

Prototype 'Arbalest' Torpedo Launcher, Caldari Navy Scourge Torpedo
Prototype 'Arbalest' Torpedo Launcher, Caldari Navy Scourge Torpedo
Prototype 'Arbalest' Torpedo Launcher, Caldari Navy Scourge Torpedo
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
[empty high slot]

Small Hydraulic Bay Thrusters I
Small Rocket Fuel Cache Partition I



or train the 20+ days for

+ Show Spoiler +
[Hound, 20 days more]
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Co-Processor I

1MN Afterburner II
Sensor Booster II, Targeting Range Script
Sensor Booster II, Targeting Range Script

Torpedo Launcher II, Scourge Javelin Torpedo
Torpedo Launcher II, Scourge Javelin Torpedo
Torpedo Launcher II, Scourge Javelin Torpedo
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
[empty high slot]

Small Rocket Fuel Cache Partition I
Small Hydraulic Bay Thrusters I

I had to fit a co-processor one this one. Some fits out there have a gisti B-Type MWD, which i might try once I learn how to fly this ship a little better.

Also, according to EFT, the 20day version has less dps, but higher optimal range.

Small Hydraulic Bay Thrusters 2 would require another 3 days of training.
Time is money, friend!
Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4211 Posts
May 26 2014 01:54 GMT
#36535
Try this
+ Show Spoiler +
[Hound, Hound fit]

Damage Control II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

Medium Azeotropic Ward Salubrity I
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
Experimental 1MN Afterburner I

Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
Prototype 'Arbalest' Torpedo Launcher, Caldari Navy Nova Torpedo
Prototype 'Arbalest' Torpedo Launcher, Caldari Navy Nova Torpedo
Prototype 'Arbalest' Torpedo Launcher, Caldari Navy Nova Torpedo
[Empty High slot]

Small Ancillary Current Router I
Small Polycarbon Engine Housing I


Probably not ideal, but it's pretty much the Hound version of the Purifier I use. Lock range is like 68 km with max skills, and missiles with max skills only go to about 60 anyways, so the sebos are not necessary.....
~ \(ˌ)im-ˈpər-vē-əs\ : not capable of being damaged or harmed.
Boggler
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada234 Posts
May 26 2014 02:56 GMT
#36536
OMG. Is this why I am always running into those dammed Slicers?

Time is money, friend!
Ramiel
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1220 Posts
May 26 2014 04:07 GMT
#36537
Slicer is kne of the best frigate to frigate combat ships in the game, properly flown very few ships can match it. However after kronos the succubus will be the only thing worth flying.
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DefMatrixUltra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada1992 Posts
May 26 2014 06:06 GMT
#36538
On May 26 2014 13:07 Ramiel wrote:
Slicer is kne of the best frigate to frigate combat ships in the game, properly flown very few ships can match it. However after kronos the succubus will be the only thing worth flying.


With the somewhat important fine print that you actually need to be skilled to fly it or have a huge links advantage over your opponent. Otherwise you're likely to have shit results with a Slicer.
FortuneSyn
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1826 Posts
May 26 2014 06:12 GMT
#36539
On May 26 2014 10:50 Boggler wrote:
Hounds Fits. I hope its Hound I use against Minmatar in FW

Fits mostly stolen from the FW guide, and transferred to a Hound!
+ Show Spoiler +
[Hound, Low SP]
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
[empty low slot]

1MN Afterburner II
Sensor Booster II, Targeting Range Script
Sensor Booster II, Targeting Range Script

Prototype 'Arbalest' Torpedo Launcher, Caldari Navy Scourge Torpedo
Prototype 'Arbalest' Torpedo Launcher, Caldari Navy Scourge Torpedo
Prototype 'Arbalest' Torpedo Launcher, Caldari Navy Scourge Torpedo
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
[empty high slot]

Small Hydraulic Bay Thrusters I
Small Rocket Fuel Cache Partition I



or train the 20+ days for

+ Show Spoiler +
[Hound, 20 days more]
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Co-Processor I

1MN Afterburner II
Sensor Booster II, Targeting Range Script
Sensor Booster II, Targeting Range Script

Torpedo Launcher II, Scourge Javelin Torpedo
Torpedo Launcher II, Scourge Javelin Torpedo
Torpedo Launcher II, Scourge Javelin Torpedo
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
[empty high slot]

Small Rocket Fuel Cache Partition I
Small Hydraulic Bay Thrusters I

I had to fit a co-processor one this one. Some fits out there have a gisti B-Type MWD, which i might try once I learn how to fly this ship a little better.

Also, according to EFT, the 20day version has less dps, but higher optimal range.

Small Hydraulic Bay Thrusters 2 would require another 3 days of training.


You might need a mwd t2 torp bomber for amarr missions because of target painters, shooting at 90+km range
Ramiel
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1220 Posts
May 26 2014 07:06 GMT
#36540
On May 26 2014 15:06 DefMatrixUltra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2014 13:07 Ramiel wrote:
Slicer is kne of the best frigate to frigate combat ships in the game, properly flown very few ships can match it. However after kronos the succubus will be the only thing worth flying.


With the somewhat important fine print that you actually need to be skilled to fly it or have a huge links advantage over your opponent. Otherwise you're likely to have shit results with a Slicer.


Slicer has a very, very high skill ceiling. The margin for error is small. However I stand by the statement that the slicer is hands down, one of the most superior Frig vs Frig platforms when in the hands of a competent pilot. 99% of slicer pilots are pretty shit. As you said, links help, but are not necessary,
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