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Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
May 12 2014 09:55 GMT
#36281
http://dog-net.org/brdoc/?brid=25305

this was a fight we ( Stahlsturm, Advent of Fate, Gorgon Empire, Insane Asylum ) had this sunday against the Russians and their renter pets in Geminate.

was a great fight except for the couple of dreads we welped when Legion jumped in a dozen or so carriers, after we were beating up their battleship fleet for an hour allready. After we got in our dreads to deal with the carriers they brought in 20 dreads themselves which meant ours were outnumbered 1:4 .

Even with carriers and their own dreads and from time to time new reinforcements for their battleship fleet they were barely able to hold together against our Loki and Cerberus fleet and we managed to push them back and their carriers and dreads left the field as soon as they could.

In the end the fight ended after 4 hours of constant fighting without tidi in a stalemate. We were tired and running out of Ammo and the last remenants of the russian battleship fleet were hiding inside their POS that they managed to repair sufficiently with their carriers to stront it again.

So the fight ended with us losing 12-15 Lokis a couple of small support ships and 5 Dreads.

The russians lost 60 Battleships, around 30 Logistics, a Thanatos and some small stuff.

If it wasnt for the welped dreads this would have been a huge victory on our part. Even though we could not achieve our objective we still had a lot of fun and destroyed some space ships
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43210 Posts
May 12 2014 14:21 GMT
#36282
On May 12 2014 13:08 magicmUnky wrote:
Also I was curious... how active is the TL eve corp? Live long life due to shield battery or something like that right? Any run ins with the evil cfc?

No real tl corp at the moment, I have a new corp but it's basically only as active as I am.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
May 12 2014 14:24 GMT
#36283
Hey I almost have all the skills trained to... afk courier missions
Hey do you want to hear a joke? Chinese production value. | I thought he had a aegis- Ayesee | When did 7ing mad last have a good game, 2012?
Shootemup.
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1044 Posts
May 12 2014 15:29 GMT
#36284
On May 12 2014 23:21 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2014 13:08 magicmUnky wrote:
Also I was curious... how active is the TL eve corp? Live long life due to shield battery or something like that right? Any run ins with the evil cfc?

No real tl corp at the moment, I have a new corp but it's basically only as active as I am.

So business as usual then?
"Dirty Timber Picker" Mity Teem Larquad. "I am a baddie and tango is a smartiepants." -KwarK "When you said you didn't play Invoker I thought you were just being modest"
Omigawa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1556 Posts
May 12 2014 17:10 GMT
#36285
Mordu's Legion ships:

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4582930#post4582930


Mordu's ships are focused on three main themes: speed, missiles, and warp scram/disruptor range. The primary goal is to have a very capable set of kiting ships that are especially attractive to PVPers. They will get bonuses from Caldari and Gallente spaceship command skills. We initially wanted to fill the Caldari/Minmatar faction gap, but the existing factions didn't really support that and adding story and assets for an entirely new faction wasn't practical. Mordu's Legion suits our goals extremely well in every other way so we are very happy with them (and their scary stealth pizza pan art).

Look forward to hearing what you guys think, we are pretty excited.

=======================================================================================

GARMUR

Caldari Frigate Bonus per level:
25% bonus to missile damage

Gallente Frigate Bonus per level:
10% bonus to warp scrambler and warp disruptor range

Role Bonus:
200% bonus to missile velocity
50% penalty to missile flight time

Slot layout: 3H, 4M, 3L; 0 turrets, 3 launchers
Fittings: 38 PWG, 178 CPU
Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 680 / 590 / 560
Capacitor (amount / cap/sec) : 400 / 2.05
Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 415 / 3.2 / 987000 / 4.38s
Drones (bandwidth / bay): 0 / 0
Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 28km / 650 / 5
Sensor strength: 13
Signature radius: 32

=======================================================================================

ORTHRUS

Caldari Cruiser Bonus per level:
20% bonus to missile damage

Gallente Cruiser Bonus per level:
10% bonus to warp scrambler and warp disruptor range

Role Bonus:
200% bonus to missile velocity
50% penalty to missile flight time

Slot layout: 6H, 5M, 4L; 0 turrets, 5 launchers
Fittings: 900 PWG, 325 CPU
Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 2950 / 2280 / 2100
Capacitor (amount / cap/sec) : 1550 / 3.16
Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 245 / .48 / 9362000 / 6.23s
Drones (bandwidth / bay): 25 / 25
Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 50km / 300 / 7
Sensor strength: 21
Signature radius: 120

=======================================================================================

BARGHEST

Caldari Battleship Bonus per level:
5% bonus to missile damage

Gallente Battleship Bonus per level:
10% bonus to warp scrambler and warp disruptor range

Role Bonus:
200% bonus to missile velocity
50% penalty to missile flight time

Slot layout: 8H, 6M, 6L; 0 turrets, 7 launchers
Fittings: 11600 PWG, 700 CPU
Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 11200 / 8750 / 8100
Capacitor (amount / cap/sec) : 6100 / 5.28
Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 148 / .098 / 98467000 / 13.38s
Drones (bandwidth / bay): 50 / 75
Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 76km / 110 / 7
Sensor strength: 29
Signature radius: 370
Wild Things
Profile Joined February 2014
United States42 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-12 17:26:44
May 12 2014 17:24 GMT
#36286
I don't understand why they would decrease missile range on a set of hulls intended for kiting.
I haven't looked at the fitting requirements, but a dual web, dual prop, ancillary armor Orthrus has some pretty enticing potential.
Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
May 12 2014 17:46 GMT
#36287
you missed the point of these ships if you armor tank them and try to brawl.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43210 Posts
May 12 2014 18:10 GMT
#36288
On May 13 2014 02:46 Skilledblob wrote:
you missed the point of these ships if you armor tank them and try to brawl.

wow
dual web known brawling setup
ancil armour rep clearly is a type of armour and therefore not for kiting
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-12 18:47:02
May 12 2014 18:42 GMT
#36289
very well you can kite with that but why would you do that? by using the limited low slots for armor rep, DCU, probably another resistance mod you are left with 1 more slot and that slot is probably then used for a BCU.

with a shield buffer you got 4 low slots that you can use for nanos ,BCUs and other stuff. These ships are supposed to be fast so there should be no need for dual webs


dual prop, 2 LSE, scram / point

2x BCU, Nano, DCU

missile launchers

that's what I would do. probably wouldnt even dual prop it, I didnt take a deep look at the numbers but 100MN AB might work. and then you'd still have another free utility mid slot
Zavior
Profile Joined August 2009
Finland753 Posts
May 12 2014 18:47 GMT
#36290
I suppose it might have been a while since you last played :3
Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
May 12 2014 18:52 GMT
#36291
the cynabal is the closest thing we have at the moment to compare the new cruiser to. And correct me if I am wrong but I have never seen anybody do anything worth noting in an armor repped cynabal.
Vipsanius
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands708 Posts
May 12 2014 19:10 GMT
#36292
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4582568#post4582568

also got first pvp in dread today, was a lot of fun
Wild Things
Profile Joined February 2014
United States42 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-12 20:01:13
May 12 2014 19:55 GMT
#36293
On May 13 2014 03:42 Skilledblob wrote:
very well you can kite with that but why would you do that?


You don't need to go ridiculously fast to kite, you just need very good damage application. If you fly intelligently and let whatever gang you are fighting separate and come to you, you'll have much better success. Nanos really aren't a requirement on a kiting ship.

Yes, this hull is probably intended to be shield tanked (and most people will use it that way) but if I fly something like HAMs and a long point on it, I'll will need dual webs or rigor to blap tackle frigates that try to land a scram on me. I may end up flying scram/single web HML/RLML in which case I could fly it shield tanked with the last two mid slots, but honestly I've always had more fun with 'get out of jail free' dual prop max range dictation fits.
0m3ga
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Serbia322 Posts
May 12 2014 19:55 GMT
#36294
Time to farm some mordus lp)))))))))
Don't you ever gf me back -Chessur
Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
May 12 2014 20:35 GMT
#36295
On May 13 2014 04:55 Wild Things wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2014 03:42 Skilledblob wrote:
very well you can kite with that but why would you do that?


You don't need to go ridiculously fast to kite, you just need very good damage application. If you fly intelligently and let whatever gang you are fighting separate and come to you, you'll have much better success. Nanos really aren't a requirement on a kiting ship.

Yes, this hull is probably intended to be shield tanked (and most people will use it that way) but if I fly something like HAMs and a long point on it, I'll will need dual webs or rigor to blap tackle frigates that try to land a scram on me. I may end up flying scram/single web HML/RLML in which case I could fly it shield tanked with the last two mid slots, but honestly I've always had more fun with 'get out of jail free' dual prop max range dictation fits.


ok I understand that, I am not a big fan of HAMs so I ignored that option
unsniped
Profile Joined November 2009
United States241 Posts
May 12 2014 20:45 GMT
#36296
Chessur king FC to rule all fc
felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
May 12 2014 21:09 GMT
#36297
On May 13 2014 05:35 Skilledblob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2014 04:55 Wild Things wrote:
On May 13 2014 03:42 Skilledblob wrote:
very well you can kite with that but why would you do that?


You don't need to go ridiculously fast to kite, you just need very good damage application. If you fly intelligently and let whatever gang you are fighting separate and come to you, you'll have much better success. Nanos really aren't a requirement on a kiting ship.

Yes, this hull is probably intended to be shield tanked (and most people will use it that way) but if I fly something like HAMs and a long point on it, I'll will need dual webs or rigor to blap tackle frigates that try to land a scram on me. I may end up flying scram/single web HML/RLML in which case I could fly it shield tanked with the last two mid slots, but honestly I've always had more fun with 'get out of jail free' dual prop max range dictation fits.


ok I understand that, I am not a big fan of HAMs so I ignored that option


You never go full HAM?
Yes, I email sponsors... to thank them. Don't post drunk, kids. My king, what has become of you?
Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
May 12 2014 21:40 GMT
#36298
I only go full bacon
0m3ga
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Serbia322 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-13 01:38:51
May 13 2014 01:16 GMT
#36299
On May 13 2014 05:45 unsniped wrote:
Chessur king FC to rule all fc


Chessur #1 HYDRA/BSB FC

ps: meanwhile in the russian podla wing
http://podla.killmail.org/?a=kill_related&kll_id=23418375
Don't you ever gf me back -Chessur
419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-13 04:52:59
May 13 2014 04:44 GMT
#36300
On May 13 2014 03:52 Skilledblob wrote:
the cynabal is the closest thing we have at the moment to compare the new cruiser to. And correct me if I am wrong but I have never seen anybody do anything worth noting in an armor repped cynabal.

implying that AC cynabals were actually good nano ships - they were heavily outclassed by the signature kiting ships in any of the 4 previous patches of the game (podla drake -> tier 3s -> caracal -> cara-cerb-ishtar)

the only reason fitting webs to the mordus ships might be bad is because you have a fucking 22 km OH scram which is far more powerful in the defensive slot unless you really like ramming ab ships

also I simply can't think of an actually decent kiting setup that involved dual prop (again, cynabals don't count, throughout all metas they were easy 250m kms). An FN web is probably a better choice over AB if you're that worried about getting scrammed, and has actual gang utility.
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