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Johnny Business
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1251 Posts
October 04 2013 08:58 GMT
#33621
did the eft on the new eafs. Cerb do 160 dps, 200 heated to a mwding hyena at full speed out to 90kmish. Hyena got 58km web range so even a oni might get occasional hits to its puny hp. And that is a linked Hyena. A unlinked (most common version) will just die.
Serious Business
419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
October 04 2013 09:13 GMT
#33622
yeah but we need to pretend that most of our pvp isn't us just km farming off unlinked poors
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42778 Posts
October 04 2013 13:44 GMT
#33623
What about 1mn ab twin ODI hyena as shown in topic.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42778 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-04 14:11:29
October 04 2013 13:57 GMT
#33624
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3694219&#post3694219

>100% webs on vigilants proposed here by me
Mainly I just want a rig for my hyena though.

Edit: fixed the >100% issue with calibration changes. 99.225% web highest web now possible.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Johnny Business
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1251 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-04 17:06:23
October 04 2013 17:03 GMT
#33625
tracking dreads + vindicators.

A cerb does 70 dps to a abing linked hyena at max speed btw. Even less if you drop mse for masb. (you have the fittings to go dual masb if you only want 1 web)

You can fit a 10mn ab on that ship as well if you really want to be unkillable
Serious Business
Ramiel
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1220 Posts
October 04 2013 19:04 GMT
#33626
have you tried crash / precision missiles yet? Precision is only 45K i know, but the crash might help you just one shot them.
A thread vaguely bashing SC2? SWARM ON, LOW POST COUNT BRETHREN! DEFEND THE GLORIOUS GAME THAT IS OUR LIVELIHOOD
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42778 Posts
October 04 2013 19:06 GMT
#33627
It has a sig of like 23 chessur, coupled with 8k EHP.
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DefMatrixUltra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada1992 Posts
October 04 2013 19:21 GMT
#33628
On October 04 2013 22:57 KwarK wrote:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3694219&#post3694219

>100% webs on vigilants proposed here by me
Mainly I just want a rig for my hyena though.

Edit: fixed the >100% issue with calibration changes. 99.225% web highest web now possible.


Are those all your alts? Is there really not anyone that sees a problem with all 3 of those extremely OP rigs?

Also this discussion about Cerbs vs. Hyenas is confusing me. Cerbs do fine against Hyenas (no matter what fit they have) if you have multiples because they do consistent DPS to them. No other ships can do consistent DPS to them, assuming they are linked. Are we trying to find a Hyena that a Cerb fleet can't kill? Just add a logi of any kind, done.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42778 Posts
October 04 2013 19:23 GMT
#33629
On October 05 2013 04:21 DefMatrixUltra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2013 22:57 KwarK wrote:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3694219&#post3694219

>100% webs on vigilants proposed here by me
Mainly I just want a rig for my hyena though.

Edit: fixed the >100% issue with calibration changes. 99.225% web highest web now possible.


Are those all your alts? Is there really not anyone that sees a problem with all 3 of those extremely OP rigs?

Also this discussion about Cerbs vs. Hyenas is confusing me. Cerbs do fine against Hyenas (no matter what fit they have) if you have multiples because they do consistent DPS to them. No other ships can do consistent DPS to them, assuming they are linked. Are we trying to find a Hyena that a Cerb fleet can't kill? Just add a logi of any kind, done.

There is no-one who sees an issue.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
DefMatrixUltra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada1992 Posts
October 04 2013 19:30 GMT
#33630
While you're at it, get those +75% optimal range rigs in there for lasers turrets.
Body_Shield
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada3368 Posts
October 04 2013 19:55 GMT
#33631
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-10-01-theres-no-deal-preventing-dust-514-being-on-pc-xbox

Good work CCP
So, five-card stud, nothing wild... and the sky's the limit
Johnny Business
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1251 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-04 21:12:37
October 04 2013 21:08 GMT
#33632
On October 05 2013 04:04 Ramiel wrote:
have you tried crash / precision missiles yet? Precision is only 45K i know, but the crash might help you just one shot them.


There is no need for crash and precisions if you want to kill a mwd hyena. For the ab one you can add strong crash and precisions and be at 190 dps. regular cn scourge with crash is 140 dps that might be enough.

I don't really know if I like the ab version of the hyena. The speed isn't that great at 2k m/s
Serious Business
Ramiel
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1220 Posts
October 04 2013 21:13 GMT
#33633
See what really bothers me about the hyena, is the fact that they only ship that is giong to be able to ever stop these monsters is the RLM cerb. I just want more variety in my ship chioces when super small gang / solo pvp you know?
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tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19059 Posts
October 04 2013 21:32 GMT
#33634
On October 05 2013 04:55 Body_Shield wrote:
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-10-01-theres-no-deal-preventing-dust-514-being-on-pc-xbox

Good work CCP

I remember CCP saying it was too much trouble to develop for 360 because of how they handle patching, which as we all know CCP likes to do. Specifically, that Microsoft didn't like the idea of frequent patches. Other developers have also said it's stupid expensive to patch. These things are reasons why many games, even really popular ones like Orange Box, were never, ever patched.
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42778 Posts
October 04 2013 21:41 GMT
#33635
On October 05 2013 06:08 Johnny Business wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2013 04:04 Ramiel wrote:
have you tried crash / precision missiles yet? Precision is only 45K i know, but the crash might help you just one shot them.


There is no need for crash and precisions if you want to kill a mwd hyena. For the ab one you can add strong crash and precisions and be at 190 dps. regular cn scourge with crash is 140 dps that might be enough.

I don't really know if I like the ab version of the hyena. The speed isn't that great at 2k m/s

Going 2k/s is fine if you can slow everyone else down and can't be scrammed.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Reborn8u
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1761 Posts
October 04 2013 22:13 GMT
#33636
On October 05 2013 04:55 Body_Shield wrote:
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-10-01-theres-no-deal-preventing-dust-514-being-on-pc-xbox

Good work CCP


iirc the deal breaker was that Xbox wouldn't allow them to link Dust to an external server outside Xlive (tranquility).
:)
Reborn8u
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1761 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-04 22:25:27
October 04 2013 22:24 GMT
#33637
On October 05 2013 06:41 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2013 06:08 Johnny Business wrote:
On October 05 2013 04:04 Ramiel wrote:
have you tried crash / precision missiles yet? Precision is only 45K i know, but the crash might help you just one shot them.


There is no need for crash and precisions if you want to kill a mwd hyena. For the ab one you can add strong crash and precisions and be at 190 dps. regular cn scourge with crash is 140 dps that might be enough.

I don't really know if I like the ab version of the hyena. The speed isn't that great at 2k m/s

Going 2k/s is fine if you can slow everyone else down and can't be scrammed.


As someone who flew rifters a LOT for you guys, I have to say I think it will be fine. Don't see many cerbs around anyway. Most of the time when I do see caracals/Caracal navy's / cerbs, they put HML's on them anyway. The hyeana is pretty similiar to a rifter in stats. You've both seen me tackle auto canes (pre nerfs) in a rifter, while taking fire from several ships and hold scram on them long enough for them to die, and I often made it out.

Besides you can always make sure you have some dampners in your fleet to deal with any problem ships like an anti tackle cerb. If you MWD fit the hyeana, it will probably be able to outrun some of the volleys with heat. Not to mention, you can always just warp off and warp back in on top of your own fleet. With the web range it will have, you won't be pointed. Also, If we have ships like oracles, or phoons in the fleet who can match the cerbs range, he probably isn't going to be too keen on sticking around long anyway.
:)
polluxtby
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden207 Posts
October 04 2013 22:40 GMT
#33638
Hilmar:
"It's so easy to lose your focus by working on things that are not the most important thing."
Wonderfull
Ten years ago we had Johnny Cash, Bob Hope and Steve Job. Now we got no cash no job and no hope
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42778 Posts
October 04 2013 22:43 GMT
#33639
I don't see what the mwd brings you in terms of defensive play vs gangs 5x the size. AB lets the hyena be very aggressive and gives it infinite EHP.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-05 00:10:39
October 04 2013 23:52 GMT
#33640


why bumping gnosises off gate is sometimes a risky tactic. some pretty clutch play, including one of the ishtars bumping i beast away from the guy scramming him

also, watch to see what a single flight of curators does to an untanked naga
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