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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44245 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-08 23:12:17
January 08 2013 23:02 GMT
#28001
Drakes will be shit with the cap nerf in their current nullsec use, it's like a dual EHP nerf. Harb change means a lot of grid, cpu and capactor in real terms I think. Should open up potential for invuln, LASB fits with t2 locus rigs. That's especially good with the massive hit to shield HP the harb took in the changes. Also harb can now field 5 warriors with 5 ec-600s in the drone bay, pretty sick. That's a great buff in real terms. Looking forward to it.
Ferox still has no damage bonus, CCP failed to work out why nobody used it. Prophecy will be the new dual rep myrm. Cane loses a high. That's p huge.
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
January 08 2013 23:10 GMT
#28002
Basically harbs > *
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44245 Posts
January 08 2013 23:13 GMT
#28003
Will need to eft to confirm.
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Zavior
Profile Joined August 2009
Finland753 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-08 23:17:16
January 08 2013 23:14 GMT
#28004
I really wonder what they have in mind for the tier 3 cattlebruisers. Expecting mobility nerfs.
Also eve broke. Nodes dying!
Shootemup.
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1044 Posts
January 08 2013 23:15 GMT
#28005
On January 09 2013 08:14 Zavior wrote:
I really wonder what they have in mind for the tier 3 cattlebruisers. Expecting mobility nerfs

According to that devblob they released a while back they are going to nerf their mobility and sig radius slightly, but other than that they probably won't do too much.
"Dirty Timber Picker" Mity Teem Larquad. "I am a baddie and tango is a smartiepants." -KwarK "When you said you didn't play Invoker I thought you were just being modest"
Divine-Sneaker
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark1225 Posts
January 08 2013 23:18 GMT
#28006
Minnie and caldari bc's seem really shit in comparison to the two other faction's in that iteration.

Why the fuck does the cyclone need to be a missile ship, wtf.
Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4222 Posts
January 08 2013 23:18 GMT
#28007
Aren't the BC's also getting a lot heavier? Isn't that going to slow them down?
~ \(ˌ)im-ˈpər-vē-əs\ : not capable of being damaged or harmed.
Zavior
Profile Joined August 2009
Finland753 Posts
January 08 2013 23:22 GMT
#28008
On January 09 2013 08:18 Divine-Sneaker wrote:
Minnie and caldari bc's seem really shit in comparison to the two other faction's in that iteration.

Why the fuck does the cyclone need to be a missile ship, wtf.

breacher->talwar->bellicose->cyclone->typhoon
Shootemup.
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1044 Posts
January 08 2013 23:22 GMT
#28009
On January 09 2013 08:18 Impervious wrote:
Aren't the BC's also getting a lot heavier? Isn't that going to slow them down?

Some are gaining mass, like the Drake, and some are losing mass, like the Brutix. I was hoping for a skirmishing HAM BC, but without a range bonus HAMs are relegated to brawlers.
"Dirty Timber Picker" Mity Teem Larquad. "I am a baddie and tango is a smartiepants." -KwarK "When you said you didn't play Invoker I thought you were just being modest"
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44245 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-08 23:28:50
January 08 2013 23:23 GMT
#28010
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2432979&#post2432979

Good price imo, cost 3.5b to train up including the 1b that I just spent selling it (so doesn't count as investment as it came out of the cashout) and I didn't even use a po2 for that.
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Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4222 Posts
January 08 2013 23:24 GMT
#28011
So nano brutix may become a thing?
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Shootemup.
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1044 Posts
January 08 2013 23:28 GMT
#28012
On January 09 2013 08:24 Impervious wrote:
So nano brutix may become a thing?

Doubtful, unless CCP buffs Null again (lol) or medium rails. The problem with medium blasters as a kiting platform is that they have fuck all projection if the ship they are on doesn't get a falloff bonus, and medium rails have shit tracking and very mediocre damage.
"Dirty Timber Picker" Mity Teem Larquad. "I am a baddie and tango is a smartiepants." -KwarK "When you said you didn't play Invoker I thought you were just being modest"
Sylvex
Profile Joined January 2009
United States127 Posts
January 08 2013 23:31 GMT
#28013
The harb loses the fitting for the gun it loses (you end up with 12 extra grid and 1.3 extra cpu) as well as losing 1100 base EHP, having slower cap regen rate, and being slightly more bricky and very slightly higher sig. I think its a nerf overall, but will have to wait for EFT/pyfa.
Divine-Sneaker
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark1225 Posts
January 08 2013 23:35 GMT
#28014
On January 09 2013 08:22 Zavior wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2013 08:18 Divine-Sneaker wrote:
Minnie and caldari bc's seem really shit in comparison to the two other faction's in that iteration.

Why the fuck does the cyclone need to be a missile ship, wtf.

breacher->talwar->bellicose->cyclone->typhoon


I get the progression path, but it was fine as it was. It was workable and different enough from the cane for it to matter. Also, this still holds me worried that they're going to make the sleipnir some shitty version similar to the nighthawk. I just don't see why it needed such a radical change, I liked the style it had as it was even if it wasn't the best bc.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44245 Posts
January 08 2013 23:39 GMT
#28015
[Harbinger, new changes]

Heat Sink II
Internal Force Field Array I
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II

Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
Large Ancillary Shield Booster
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Warp Disruptor II

Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]

Medium Processor Overclocking Unit I
Medium Energy Locus Coordinator II
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II


With genolutions you can do a lot more but otherwise, you've got loads of grid but the anci really limits cpu.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44245 Posts
January 08 2013 23:44 GMT
#28016
[Harbinger, new changes]

Heat Sink II
Damage Control II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Heat Sink II
Fourier Transform Tracking Program

Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
Large Ancillary Shield Booster
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Warp Disruptor II

Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]

Medium Processor Overclocking Unit I
Medium Energy Locus Coordinator II
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II


Genolution Core Augmentation CA-1
Genolution Core Augmentation CA-2
Zainou 'Gnome' Weapon Upgrades WU-1003
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Body_Shield
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada3373 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-08 23:47:26
January 08 2013 23:44 GMT
#28017
Also the base shields were dropped by 516. And I didn't think they needed to change the agility on the thing at all, if anything more agility, not less.

However flight of EC-600s and a flight of warriors for the drone bay (+25m^3 to 75m^3).

Edit: Is that with the PG and CPU reduction Kwark?
So, five-card stud, nothing wild... and the sky's the limit
kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
January 08 2013 23:47 GMT
#28018
So they're nerfing everything?
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44245 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-09 04:09:29
January 08 2013 23:53 GMT
#28019
421 unheated scorch dps after changes by my count, before warriors which bring another 80. Harb is now by far the highest damage dealing bc if looked at across all effective ranges. Near 800 total dps with heat and conflag and in scorch's optimal of 30 it is twice as good as any other turret bc at that range and about 50% better than hml drake.
Also amarr have quietly become by far the best drone race.
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Body_Shield
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada3373 Posts
January 08 2013 23:53 GMT
#28020
On January 09 2013 08:47 kollin wrote:
So they're nerfing everything?

Well the Prophecy is hilarious
So, five-card stud, nothing wild... and the sky's the limit
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