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DefMatrixUltra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada1992 Posts
May 05 2012 04:52 GMT
#21981
On May 05 2012 11:10 abominare wrote:
So first I make frentix to sell to tl corpies, it doesn't sell well enough so I send some back to jita. While it is in jita, tl corpies buy it for more than I was charging in home system. Baffled.


That's how you know you're in the EVE marketplace.
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19057 Posts
May 05 2012 05:02 GMT
#21982
On May 05 2012 11:10 abominare wrote:
So first I make frentix to sell to tl corpies, it doesn't sell well enough so I send some back to jita. While it is in jita, tl corpies buy it for more than I was charging in home system. Baffled.

I told you "I want to buy 20" about 10 times over 3 days and you never responded at all eve
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r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
May 05 2012 08:02 GMT
#21983
Hurr. After welping two ships to obvious returning to eve dumbness I gave it another run today with mah failfitted enyo (so gonna steal Aeths fit once these blow up <3) and decided to check out the area around CR- / 12YA which was traditionally inhabited by stupid bears thinking they have teeth. I gotta admit I never was that big of a solo fan, but nothing is better to get rid of that newbish nervousness when someone shoots at you. First step to getting back into shape is to get back a solid calculated calmness.


In true ex-TROLL fashion a Cane/Crow/Vaga tried to chase me out of CR-, but no matter what I tried the crow refused to engage me without backup. After a Harpy and a Wolf joined the game I was like fuck that and and started burning up the pipe towards D7. The harpy gave chase but since I had fuck no idea if my Ion-Enyo can handle a Neutron-Blarpy I decided not to fuck with him when he was isolated.

In EL8 I jumped into my old buddy the Vaga (fucking bridges) and his new found Rifterbro. Considering they already moved in front of me I was pretty sure that I might get fucked later down the way towards D7. New plan: Hope they get cocky (they were now up to Vaga/Cane/Blarpy/Wolf/Rifter), try to split them up in 5-9, bitch in local and burn towards the next intersection down the road. I managed to get the Cane and Wolf to camp the exit towards D7, the Rifter to disappear, called them unmanly bitches in local and burned.

Jump into BD, brawl the Rifter there who was probably like I GOT HIM I GOT HIM, was pretty sure the crow/harpy/vaga should show up soon, burned off gate just to turn around and approach the Crow when it popped into local (gj staying in disruptor range bro), killed him as well, looted his shit and gtfo.

Vagabond proceeded to chase me for 5 jumps, calling me pussy each time he saw me in local. Victory!


... On the way back I met a Cane 20km off my outgate, jumped through to avoid dwarf-fortress-style-FUN, decided to give it a shot trying to check his fit with the plan to fight him if he has no neuts fitted.... and got aggro'd by lovely goon artillery at 0, killed his warriors (except for one so he might keep aggro) and used void to rape him. And his pod. <3


Why did I even expect people to be less retarded? Nanos stronk on frigs. Dis/Web fit ez #1. Arty cane boss for killing frigates. Never deaggro. >_>

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JJoNeEightY
Profile Joined December 2010
United States509 Posts
May 05 2012 08:39 GMT
#21984
Good stuff with the Enyo Revo!

What's the story with Serg singlehandedly destroying that wormhole?
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34491 Posts
May 05 2012 09:07 GMT
#21985
We're considering taking their stream footage and adding our own commentary on it and rereleasing.
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tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19057 Posts
May 05 2012 11:07 GMT
#21986
As much as I love cruisers and want to fly them more, I think I'll get into more solo frig stuff. Faction/T2 frigs are way cheaper than faction/T2 cruisers (slicer 45m so cheap) so they are easier on my wallet which makes me not as pissed off if I die. On the other hand I could just get Siege Links and fly my Tengu around everywhere.
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Skibat
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland161 Posts
May 05 2012 12:22 GMT
#21987
Here is how that guy felt yesterday

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felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
May 05 2012 12:40 GMT
#21988
On May 05 2012 06:38 abominare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2012 03:54 Warri wrote:
On May 05 2012 03:13 DefMatrixUltra wrote:
If you're in ahacs or baddons you definitely can. And if you do, it just makes it increasingly difficult for them to do anything about it.

No you wont. Its 15% resistance instead of 20% at start. They take 42gj cap instead of nothing and the cycletime is 10seconds. Now i dont know how fast they adapt but given enough maelstroms these will still be worse than active hardeners (55%, more if overheated) and probably only a few percent better than eanms. So no, the module is complete shit.



ahacs how the fuck do they work? I mean obviously who would want to use a close range(relatively), small sig, faster ship vs arty battleships.


Hmm. Back when AHACs were super cool to use in Init. (and to some extent in the GW areas), it was generally zealot/muninn sniper ships AB-fit orbiting an anchor and volleying for alpha. But at that time, sniper BS were rarely if ever seen, and our most common opponents were Drakeside. I'm not sure exactly what the thought process was, but by trying to keep up a decent transversal with small signature radius, massed medium arty (with tremor) was a winning proposition against massed large artillery because we would get solid hits, and the BS would get weaker hits or miss because of the transversal.
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Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
May 05 2012 12:52 GMT
#21989
On May 05 2012 21:40 felisconcolori wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2012 06:38 abominare wrote:
On May 05 2012 03:54 Warri wrote:
On May 05 2012 03:13 DefMatrixUltra wrote:
If you're in ahacs or baddons you definitely can. And if you do, it just makes it increasingly difficult for them to do anything about it.

No you wont. Its 15% resistance instead of 20% at start. They take 42gj cap instead of nothing and the cycletime is 10seconds. Now i dont know how fast they adapt but given enough maelstroms these will still be worse than active hardeners (55%, more if overheated) and probably only a few percent better than eanms. So no, the module is complete shit.



ahacs how the fuck do they work? I mean obviously who would want to use a close range(relatively), small sig, faster ship vs arty battleships.


Hmm. Back when AHACs were super cool to use in Init. (and to some extent in the GW areas), it was generally zealot/muninn sniper ships AB-fit orbiting an anchor and volleying for alpha. But at that time, sniper BS were rarely if ever seen, and our most common opponents were Drakeside. I'm not sure exactly what the thought process was, but by trying to keep up a decent transversal with small signature radius, massed medium arty (with tremor) was a winning proposition against massed large artillery because we would get solid hits, and the BS would get weaker hits or miss because of the transversal.

'It doesnt matter if youre facing fleets of 250+ maelstroms. You can only fly below so many guns..most of them will always be in a good/perfect spot to hit you for almost full damage.
hagon
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom556 Posts
May 05 2012 13:30 GMT
#21990
On May 05 2012 21:52 Warri wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2012 21:40 felisconcolori wrote:
On May 05 2012 06:38 abominare wrote:
On May 05 2012 03:54 Warri wrote:
On May 05 2012 03:13 DefMatrixUltra wrote:
If you're in ahacs or baddons you definitely can. And if you do, it just makes it increasingly difficult for them to do anything about it.

No you wont. Its 15% resistance instead of 20% at start. They take 42gj cap instead of nothing and the cycletime is 10seconds. Now i dont know how fast they adapt but given enough maelstroms these will still be worse than active hardeners (55%, more if overheated) and probably only a few percent better than eanms. So no, the module is complete shit.



ahacs how the fuck do they work? I mean obviously who would want to use a close range(relatively), small sig, faster ship vs arty battleships.


Hmm. Back when AHACs were super cool to use in Init. (and to some extent in the GW areas), it was generally zealot/muninn sniper ships AB-fit orbiting an anchor and volleying for alpha. But at that time, sniper BS were rarely if ever seen, and our most common opponents were Drakeside. I'm not sure exactly what the thought process was, but by trying to keep up a decent transversal with small signature radius, massed medium arty (with tremor) was a winning proposition against massed large artillery because we would get solid hits, and the BS would get weaker hits or miss because of the transversal.

'It doesnt matter if youre facing fleets of 250+ maelstroms. You can only fly below so many guns..most of them will always be in a good/perfect spot to hit you for almost full damage.


The only group that can field 250 Maelstroms is the CFC, and then pretty much only in euro prime.
Ueberlisk
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland455 Posts
May 05 2012 14:54 GMT
#21991
damn u guys smashed anzac :D
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abominare
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1216 Posts
May 05 2012 15:19 GMT
#21992
On May 05 2012 14:02 tofucake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2012 11:10 abominare wrote:
So first I make frentix to sell to tl corpies, it doesn't sell well enough so I send some back to jita. While it is in jita, tl corpies buy it for more than I was charging in home system. Baffled.

I told you "I want to buy 20" about 10 times over 3 days and you never responded at all eve


My bad, been stupid busy at work, barely have actually been on
felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
May 05 2012 15:27 GMT
#21993
On May 05 2012 21:52 Warri wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2012 21:40 felisconcolori wrote:
On May 05 2012 06:38 abominare wrote:
On May 05 2012 03:54 Warri wrote:
On May 05 2012 03:13 DefMatrixUltra wrote:
If you're in ahacs or baddons you definitely can. And if you do, it just makes it increasingly difficult for them to do anything about it.

No you wont. Its 15% resistance instead of 20% at start. They take 42gj cap instead of nothing and the cycletime is 10seconds. Now i dont know how fast they adapt but given enough maelstroms these will still be worse than active hardeners (55%, more if overheated) and probably only a few percent better than eanms. So no, the module is complete shit.



ahacs how the fuck do they work? I mean obviously who would want to use a close range(relatively), small sig, faster ship vs arty battleships.


Hmm. Back when AHACs were super cool to use in Init. (and to some extent in the GW areas), it was generally zealot/muninn sniper ships AB-fit orbiting an anchor and volleying for alpha. But at that time, sniper BS were rarely if ever seen, and our most common opponents were Drakeside. I'm not sure exactly what the thought process was, but by trying to keep up a decent transversal with small signature radius, massed medium arty (with tremor) was a winning proposition against massed large artillery because we would get solid hits, and the BS would get weaker hits or miss because of the transversal.

'It doesnt matter if youre facing fleets of 250+ maelstroms. You can only fly below so many guns..most of them will always be in a good/perfect spot to hit you for almost full damage.


Eh, most of the time we were at around 100+ km from the other guys, and burning to keep that range or add more transversal. Usually the opposing force was not heavy Maelstrom sniper fleet composition, but a mixed bag. Most commonly the enemy was in drake heavy compositions. Then too, this was quite awhile back. Your point is well taken, however - I remember once rushing out to help some friends and taking a single drake from 3/4 shield to 1/4 armor in one exceptionally lucky shot using a 1400 arty mael.
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NathanEO
Profile Joined May 2008
Germany254 Posts
May 05 2012 19:22 GMT
#21994
I approve of this product and/or service.

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r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-05 19:30:45
May 05 2012 19:24 GMT
#21995
On May 05 2012 21:52 Warri wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2012 21:40 felisconcolori wrote:
On May 05 2012 06:38 abominare wrote:
On May 05 2012 03:54 Warri wrote:
On May 05 2012 03:13 DefMatrixUltra wrote:
If you're in ahacs or baddons you definitely can. And if you do, it just makes it increasingly difficult for them to do anything about it.

No you wont. Its 15% resistance instead of 20% at start. They take 42gj cap instead of nothing and the cycletime is 10seconds. Now i dont know how fast they adapt but given enough maelstroms these will still be worse than active hardeners (55%, more if overheated) and probably only a few percent better than eanms. So no, the module is complete shit.



ahacs how the fuck do they work? I mean obviously who would want to use a close range(relatively), small sig, faster ship vs arty battleships.


Hmm. Back when AHACs were super cool to use in Init. (and to some extent in the GW areas), it was generally zealot/muninn sniper ships AB-fit orbiting an anchor and volleying for alpha. But at that time, sniper BS were rarely if ever seen, and our most common opponents were Drakeside. I'm not sure exactly what the thought process was, but by trying to keep up a decent transversal with small signature radius, massed medium arty (with tremor) was a winning proposition against massed large artillery because we would get solid hits, and the BS would get weaker hits or miss because of the transversal.

'It doesnt matter if youre facing fleets of 250+ maelstroms. You can only fly below so many guns..most of them will always be in a good/perfect spot to hit you for almost full damage.


Uh. If we talk about Ahacs and how they were used initially the basis were Pulsezealots, T3s+light dictors for tackle. I thought the initial "I mean obviously who would want to use a close range(relatively), small sig, faster ship vs arty battleships."-comment was irony. =P

While AHacs work fine vs sniper battleships (like literally ANY closerange fleet), they really shine vs close range battleships / motherships and are (were) the most flexible way of fighting big, messy fights. If they fight within their optimal you can't beat their tank/damage combination, if you try to force your own optimal they can tank long enough to warp off and re-engage.

Sniper BS? Warpin, rape, repeat. You don't approach them from 100km. Though admittedly, Drakeblob is more effective here. =P
Close range BS? Go in, ignore half the damage because of ABs, ignore the other half because of insane guardian power, tear them apart with closerange ammo. I'd have to dig out old fits, but 40+ zealots with around 200k EHP each + 8-12 guardians for repping power are fucking scary.


@felisconcolori: While I understand the concept of those "sniper AHacs" you're talking about it seems to me as something that's inferior to most solid combinations (Drakeblob, close range AHacs) and specifically designed to counter sniper hacs/BSs (?). Like, welp. I can't see the point of running sniper AHacs at all. You run over hostile snipers with your probers, not your actual fleet. If a traditional AHac fleet / Drakeblob fleet gets on top of you you're fucked with that weird combination and you have no chance of really fighting them at optimals.

PS: A drakeheavy fleet that tittydances around 100km from you when you fly ANY kind of sniper fleet isn't what I'd call "solid" =P
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Mysticus
Profile Joined April 2011
298 Posts
May 05 2012 19:50 GMT
#21996
Character sold, +6bil

http://eveboard.com/pilot/Maltida

Fun times.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34491 Posts
May 05 2012 19:57 GMT
#21997
On May 06 2012 04:22 NathanEO wrote:
I approve of this product and/or service.

http://kespa.killmail.org/?a=kill_related&kll_id=13281460

http://kespa.killmail.org/?a=kill_related&kll_id=13280492

http://kespa.killmail.org/?a=kill_related&kll_id=13280231

You guys flew with Crafty after what he did to Ueber?
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42694 Posts
May 05 2012 21:43 GMT
#21998
The following exchange actually happened in the post fight truth and reconciliation session.

"Why were you really isolated from us?"
"Well I was just aligning out and watching"
"Why?"
"I'd burned out my guns"
"So you were in an oracle with no offensive mods or drones and you stayed on grid?"
"Well I was aligned, it doesn't matter that I was isolated, I just wanted to watch, I'd just warp out if they landed on me"
"But they landed on you and pointed you and then we went to save you and we died too"
"Yes"
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hagon
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom556 Posts
May 05 2012 22:03 GMT
#21999
unless you have unbelievably shit skills you never burn out the whole stack, un-link them and you normally find half of them are still alive
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34491 Posts
May 05 2012 22:23 GMT
#22000
^ pretty high level shit there, too much for most people to know
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